Iwata: the year of the revolution

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Roughly translated:

Monday, 03.01.05

NINTENDO president Iwata: ' 2005 become the year of the revolution ' 03,01,05 -
in a Japanese restaurant magazine NINTENDO president Satoru Iwata spoke about year run off and the current.

2004 were for it the year of the Nintendo DS of sale. One began with zero, but could deliver approximately three million units of the Handheld to year end world-wide.

2005 become after Iwatas estimate ' the year of the revolution '. In contrast to the past, in which Nintendo takes a special place in the history of the video games, one is in this year in the position of a challenger.

The Nintendo revolution console is to be revealed in this year on the E3 2005 in the USA.
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gamefront said:
Montag, 03.01.05

Nintendo-Präsident Iwata: '2005 wird das Jahr der Revolution'

03.01.05 - In einem japanischen Wirtschaftsmagazin sprach Nintendo-Präsident Satoru Iwata über das abgelaufene und aktuelle Jahr.

2004 war für ihn das Jahr des Nintendo DS Verkaufs. Man hat bei Null angefangen, doch konnte bis Jahresende rund drei Mio. Einheiten des Handhelds weltweit ausliefern.

2005 wird nach Iwatas Einschätzung 'das Jahr der Revolution'. Im Gegensatz zur Vergangenheit, in der Nintendo einen besonderen Platz in der Geschichte der Videospiele einnimmt, sei man in diesem Jahr in der Position eines Herausforderers.

Die Nintendo Revolution Konsole soll in diesem Jahr auf der E3 2005 in den USA enthüllt werden.
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http://www.gamefront.de/


He probably means the year Revolution is shown, but who knows?
 
It's kind of odd that he would characterise it as such if it's just to be shown this year. But that probably is the case i.e. I doubt it'll be released this year.

We could also be victim to dodgy translations, Japanese->German->English. Can anyone source the original japanese article?

Here's something I didn't think about: late 2005 launch in Japan, 2006 launch in America? Kind of arriving in between Xenon and PS3? Just a thought...it wouldn't exactly tally with the DS experience..would they sacrifice an American Holiday for an early japanese launch against PS3?

Or maybe Xbox2 is Revolution..:P

Just thinking back, I think there was a time when Nintendo people were saying that Revolution would beat PS3 to the market. Although most recent comments seem to suggest they'd be "tracking PS3" rather than explicitly saying they'd launch earlier.
 
Has Nintendo ever officially said they would launch Rev in 2006?

Maybe November 2005 is possible, but at the same time they can't just slaughter the sales possibilites of Zelda 2005.

I have no idea tbh.
 
SantaCruZer said:
Has Nintendo ever officially said they would launch Rev in 2006?

Maybe November 2005 is possible, but at the same time they can't just slaughter the sales possibilites of Zelda 2005.
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Yeah, just thought about Zelda too. They could push it onto Revolution if they were going for a 2005 launch, or maybe Nintendo might be serious about supporting an older system even after a new console has launched for once ;)

Nintendo haven't said anything about Revolution's launch except that they won't let PS3 get a headstart. Most are assuming that means they'll launch roughly at the same time as PS3. Nintendo are rarely early to a party, afterall..

It may mean nothing at all. Remember, Dolphin was supposed to see a global launch in 2000. That said, they executed DS with military precision, going from announcement to launch in much less than 12 months.
 
SantaCruZer said:
Has Nintendo ever officially said they would launch Rev in 2006?

Maybe November 2005 is possible, but at the same time they can't just slaughter the sales possibilites of Zelda 2005.

I have no idea tbh.
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Backwards compatibly.
 
Zelda is stills scheduled for release earlier in the year than November, whether people refuse to believe it or not.
 
Mama Smurf said:
Zelda is stills scheduled for release earlier in the year than November, whether people refuse to believe it or not.
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nintendo.com simply says "2005" but IGN does say June 1, 2005 for the US. If the latter were true it could hit in the Spring in Japan (leaving a comfortable gap for a 2005 Rev launch there), although you would think they'd be promoing it a bit more now if that were true.

That's interesting though..I didn't think there was any talk at all of a Zelda release earlier than Fall/Winter next year.
 
Well I don't have access to the press site, so I don't know if it's changed now, but not so long ago it was updated to a Q2 2005 release for the US.
 
It was announced for Q2 2005, I think I could find a picture where NoA said this. But now they changed it to 2005.
 
I sure as hell hope it's June. I don't know how much longer I can wait for Zelda to come out. My poor little cube has been collecting dust for a while. Come on Nintendo, help a brotha out.
 
Shiggy said:
It was announced for Q2 2005, I think I could find a picture where NoA said this. But now they changed it to 2005.
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Interesting, that would explain IGN's date, since it'd be a conservative Q2 release date.
 
Haha. With no announced 3rd party support and no official titles coming from Nintendo yet, there's no way in hell this thing is launching in 2005. The GameCube is still the most impressive system on the market sa far as what it can do; I don't want another damn system. Bah humbug!
 
Ulairi said:
Zelda will launch in the fall and be their big holiday title.
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The big question is: will it launch simultaniously around the world? I'm gonna cry blood if I have to wait till March :(
 
Free Zelda 2005 with the purchase of a Revolution.

Perhaps Zelda is coming out as a summer game, as Nintendo almost always releases a game on June 23rd. That would leave Revolution against Xenon, though I'm not sure how I feel about that. On one hand, it's great that they would both get the headstart on PS3, but then the PS3 hype might kill any hype they might have.
 
jedimike said:
Q2 2005 would be July-Sep for Nintendo. Their FY ends in March.
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I doubt they give game release dates in terms of their fiscal calendar.

However, this could put a spin on the "2005 will be the year of the revolution" comment. If he was talking to a business magazine or newspaper or shareholders or whatever, he could be referring to their fiscal year, which would end in Mar 06. It's hard to know without knowing his audience..

Haha. With no announced 3rd party support and no official titles coming from Nintendo yet, there's no way in hell this thing is launching in 2005.
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There are very few confirmed next gen games, period. Everyone's neck deep in NDAs, and it's par for the course for Nintendo to be the most secretive. And again, look at how quickly they turned around DS. Sure, it takes less development resources to release handheld games, but at the same time we've known that Nintendo are working on Revolution a lot longer than we've known about DS. You can be sure Nintendo themselves are working on multiple Rev titles right now, and probably have been for some time.
 
Che said:
No frikkin way. That would be really stupid.
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It wouldn't really. Both would sell out, you can be sure of that. What would happen after the launch (from Spring 06) is mportant.

Shiggy said:
Here you can see:

http://forum.just-cubed.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=455&sid=

I made taht picture on the 12th November. I don't know when they changed it back to 2005.
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Cheers. Do you know if it changed to 2005 on the press site? I can only see the main nintendo site.
 
If Nintendo was planning on releasing the Revolution in 2005, we would have heard about it before now. Even without Nintendo saying outright "We're going to luanch in 2005," it would have been leaked somewhere that they were building up for it. MS has never stated the Xenon would be released in 2005, but by the reports everybody expects it.
 
Last year in January Nintendo announced basic DS spec (Dual screen,...).
First showing E3 2004
Release November/December 2004

Why not ?
 
JJConrad said:
If Nintendo was planning on releasing the Revolution in 2005, we would have heard about it before now. Even without Nintendo saying outright "We're going to luanch in 2005," it would have been leaked somewhere that they were building up for it. MS has never stated the Xenon would be released in 2005, but by the reports everybody expects it.
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Nintendo's way more secretive than MS, judging from past history. Long before Xbox was even announced people were talking about it. We knew very very little about Gamecube, for example, before Spaceworld 2000, asides from what Nintendo had explicitly let out at E3 99. They control their info more tightly, I think.

And as Milhouse says, look at DS. It went from mystery to release in a very very short period of time.
 
gofreak said:
Nintendo's way more secretive than MS, judging from past history. Long before Xbox was even announced people were talking about it. We knew very very little about Gamecube, for example, before Spaceworld 2000, asides from what Nintendo had explicitly let out at E3 99. They control their info more tightly, I think.

And as Milhouse says, look at DS. It went from mystery to release in a very very short period of time.
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wasn't Paper Mario 2 revealed March/April 2004 and then released in August 2004? (japan)
 
I smell another Gamecube. Oh well. If Nintendo changes to get better 3rd party support, then I'm all for Revolution. If not, then it may just come down to PS3.
 
AssMan said:
I smell another Gamecube. Oh well. If Nintendo changes to get better 3rd party support, then I'm all for Revolution. If not, then it may just come down to PS3.
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You smell another system that maintains Nintendo's profits while thwarting piracy for years and offering plenty of family and hardcore gamer entertainment? Sounds good to me.

AssMan.
 
SantaCruZer said:
wasn't Paper Mario 2 revealed March/April 2004 and then released in August 2004? (japan)
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I'm not sure, but I do know that scenario tends to be the case with a lot of Nintendo games now - they keep their cards very close to their chest until as late as possible before release (Super Mario Sunshine was like that aswell - there was a major lack of info on that prior to release which led to much speculation. Pikmin 2 wasn't, but then that was delayed a number of times).
 
Look at the untranslated gamefront.de text :

2004 war für ihn das Jahr des Nintendo DS Verkaufs.

2005 wird nach Iwatas Einschätzung 'das Jahr der Revolution'.

"Jahr des Nintendo DS Verkaufs" or "The Year of the Nintendo DS Sales," versus "The Year of the Revolution." There's a big glaring difference here.



Besides, we knew that the DS was going to be released in 2004 before we knew what it was.
 
Shiggy said:
Zelda -> Q2 2005
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And what's it say now? Just 2005?

The more I think about it, I think it is a possibility. I mean, it's fairly safe to say that Mario 128 or whatever is now a Revolution title. We haven't heard about it in a while and frankly, it'd just be a waste to release it at the end of the GCN's life cycle. I'm sure with the way EA is a bit tighter with Nintendo now they could have the next Madden on the Revolution for launch. Maybe Factor 5 and Pilotwings will be ready by that time? It's also a safe assumption to say that the next Super Smash Bros. is being worked on for Revolution. It'd be a killer launch title, although with Mario, it might cut into sales. Perhaps they'd save this for post holiday period or the Christmas season after.

Also, what's the word on the GCN Kirby that was unveiled a little while ago? Any info on when that's supposed to be released?
 
Zelda will release on Gamecube. They'd be crazy to hold it and given Nintendo's past, that won't be how they want to launch the new system. They'll launch with Mario 128 or whatever name it takes. Zelda will be the Gamecube's biggest and best swansong.
 
JJConrad said:
Look at the untranslated gamefront.de text :

2004 war für ihn das Jahr des Nintendo DS Verkaufs.

2005 wird nach Iwatas Einschätzung 'das Jahr der Revolution'.

"Jahr des Nintendo DS Verkaufs" or "The Year of the Nintendo DS Sales," versus "The Year of the Revolution." There's a big glaring difference here.



Besides, we knew that the DS was going to be released in 2004 before we knew what it was.
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If Iwata himself said "2005 will be the year of the Revolution" then to me that implies a release even if he didn't explicitly say it. But I kind of doubt now that he said that himself - it looks like an editor added that in.

We knew "something" (DS) was coming in 2004, but we've also known for longer that Revolution is coming - yes, they haven't given us a date yet, but I'd expect them to be coy about that since they aren't dictating the pace here really, whereas they could with the DS.
 
You smell another system that maintains Nintendo's profits while thwarting piracy for years and offering plenty of family and hardcore gamer entertainment?
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Hey. If milking the Mario and Pokemon franchise to death is profitting, then GO NINTENDO!
 
AssMan said:
Hey. If milking the Mario and Pokemon franchise to death is profitting, then GO NINTENDO!
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Milking is hardly the correct term. Milking a franchise implies releasing games that damage it. Nintendo sequels tend to enrich, imo.

There are a couple of exceptions always, and of course, it's a matter of taste and opinion. But judging by Nintendo's critical reception I'd say most would agree with me that Nintendo generally releases worthy games in its main franchises' series.
 
'Year of the revolution' implies that they are going to at least unveil the machine this year. And if it is indeed revolutionary, they might not want to wait until 2006 to launch it. to avoid other companies copying any of the ideas and stealing their thunder.

If they did launch this year, head-to-head with Microsoft, they'd definitely need a killer-app at launch. Luigi's Revolutionary Mansion just wouldn't do. So if Mario128 is vapourware, that would leave Zelda as the obvious thing to launch with, backed up with something like Pilotwings. There has been no new media of Zelda since E3, so it is possible it's being reworked. And seeing as AAA GC titles have in general underperformed, it might actually sell better in the long-run by being the must-have launch title of a new machine.

Not saying this is likely, but it would be interesting from a 'cat amongst the pigeons' point of view :) It would definitely put pressure on Microsoft to have a killer-app at launch. Although I'm still not sure either company should be launching this year.
 
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