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Jane the Virgin |OT| Highest RottenTomatoes Score (100%) of Any New Show This Fall

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TripOpt55

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Just watched the latest episode. Excellent stuff. I can't get over how funny the narrator/captions are. Just pure gold. Loved Rogelio's song too.
 
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Leona Lewis

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MisterFalcon said:
Another well deserved A from AVClub and they've got all the wrestling matchups AND Floating Head Rogelio. http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/jane-virgin-chapter-twenty-218637
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That comment about the disparity between Jane the Virgin's spectacularly high-energy portrayal of wrestling and the endless pit of boredom the actual wrestling program that aired opposite it (WWE Monday Night Raw) represents...

So good
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LaunchpadMcQ

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I thought it was an amazing episode, but I did [figuratively] cringe at some of the wrestling names and the actual match between Petra and Jane. It was all in good fun though, and everything else made up for it. Really one of the best episodes this season.

Floating head Rogelio and "De la Vengeance" cracked me up so hard.
 
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Leona Lewis

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icarus-daedelus said:
This show is wonderful. I'm not caught up (only to episode 8) so I won't be reading too much of this thread, but I'm the kind of person who will give a show time to get better if I think it shows potential - a common affliction on the CW - and I don't even need to do that here. It was sparkling from the word go, starting with Gina Rodriguez and the overflowing charm and emotional intelligence that she brings to a series that absolutely would not work without a performer of her caliber at its center.

Flaws are mostly minor (I find the music annoying) and they pale in comparison with the things the show does right. Sure, it takes an absolutely ridiculous premise and plays it up in a cheeky, self-aware style that gives it a lot of energy and a fun tone even when things get serious, but what's most notable is that the underpinning here is the lovely, realistic relationship between Jane, her mother, and her grandmother. Their little family is unusual on several levels, for the fact that it portrays so many things that are common in America yet nearly completely absent in our media: multi-generation families living together, women competently inhabiting their lives without the necessary intervention of men, Hispanic women in America who are allowed to inhabit a role other than The Help, the fundamental tension of many Hispanic American families- in which some are living in the country illegally, and, most personally relevant to myself, a single parent household.

The fact that they built up Jane's grandmother as kind of a lovable and wise rock for the family for eight episodes before quietly revealing that she is also an illegal immigrant was brilliant and really helps to bring a humanist angle to her situation instead of portraying it upfront as a manipulative take on an "issue" of import. It is political, but subtly so, and also genuine. But as deftly as they handled that, the relationship between Jane and Xo is the most meaningful and important on the whole show for me. I can't tell you the number of times that this show's perceptiveness has made their conversations directly mirror that of so many I've had with my mother before. It actually made me realize how rare it is to see a real, sensitive portrayal of a familial situation that I've lived in for my entire life and which goes so unacknowledged in modern American fiction in spite of becoming, statistically, increasingly common.

So the show is witty and exciting and hasn't missed a beat yet, but the moments that ground it in between all of the heightened, soapy romantic baby drama are what really make it stand out. Easily in my top 5 shows on air right now, CW or otherwise, and I have every confidence that it will stay that way.
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Episodes 9, 12, 14, and 20 are my favorites. You are in for a treat.

Enjoy the ride!
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

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For anyone who may have missed it, Jaime Camil is going to be on Whose Line Is It Anyway? on Friday. Should be fun.

Last night's episode was stellar. Jane getting to beat Petra (well, Magda technically) at her own game was so satisfying. It's weird about Petra though. It's hard to tell when she's being genuinely honest about something or being really sneaky. She's become my favorite character after Rogelio, because I think even though she's often self-serving, her intentions are generally noble and her battles feel personal. I think that's what made her likable at first, but it's what's made her a deep and well-developed character now. She doesn't really have any ill-will towards Jane, but she really loves Rafael and she wanted to protect her mother last week, and that's been true to her character since the beginning of the show.

On the Michael/Jane front... Michael, you smooth bastard. He seemingly knows exactly what to say all the time, which speaks volumes to how well he knows Jane. I also think Michael/Jane gain a slight advantage over Jane/Rafael in the on-screen chemistry department, but Jane really has chemistry with everyone.
 
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Blackhead

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icarus-daedelus said:
But as deftly as they handled that, the relationship between Jane and Xo is the most meaningful and important on the whole show for me. I can't tell you the number of times that this show's perceptiveness has made their conversations directly mirror that of so many I've had with my mother before. It actually made me realize how rare it is to see a real, sensitive portrayal of a familial situation that I've lived in for my entire life and which goes so unacknowledged in modern American fiction in spite of becoming, statistically, increasingly common.
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Maybe Gilmore Girls (watched most of reruns) and Mom on CBS (never seen) but Jane the Virgin is on another level, more adult imo. It's so clever and witty. Unlike most other family shows there aren't any distracting dumb kids (except for the brief cameo of the twins) but I've recently realized on reruns how the periodic flashbacks to Jane's childhood allows the writers to have their cake and eat it too. It's a very sophisticated show.

icarus-daedelus said:
This show is wonderful.
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Yes, it is. Both Community (one of my fave comedies ever) and JtV showed a character learning how to pull off a con in the recent episodes but JtV tackled it soo much better and subtly consistent to the character that I'm embarrassed for Harmon. I'm not one for telenovelas or love triangles but JtV has balanced it all well in a remarkable season. The finale is next week! Catch up and watch with us.
 
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Leona Lewis

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And with People's Choice Awards, Golden Globes, and a freaking Peabody in tow, JtV continues to dominate the awards circuit with a Critics' Choice nomination for Best Comedy, Best Actress (who else?), and Best Supporting Actor (Jaime Camil, very well-deserved).

Emmys here we come!

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Blackhead

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Leona Lewis said:
And with People's Choice Awards, Golden Globes, and a freaking Peabody in tow, JtV continues to dominate the awards circuit with a Critics' Choice nomination for Best Comedy, Best Actress (who else?), and Best Supporting Actor (Jaime Camil, very well-deserved).

Emmys here we come!

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Yay! gina is expected at this point but nice to see jaime camill get the nod as well. Bodes well for wider recognition next year

p.s. Chapter 21, AV Club review: A-

funny theory in the comments that Juicy J is Sin Rostro after a face change haha. I wonder if they'll get a new actress for the role...
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

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Greyface said:
Yay! gina is expected at this point but nice to see jaime camill get the nod as well. Bodes well for wider recognition next year

p.s. Chapter 21, AV Club review: A-

funny theory in the comments that Juicy J is Sin Rostro after a face change haha. I wonder if they'll get a new actress for the role...
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I read what you wrote as "expecting" and I was like "WOAH WUT SHE'S ACTUALLY PREGNANT". Took me a second. :s

Also, Juicy J being Sin Rostro was one of my crazy theories when she first appeared, so it's almost certainly wrong.
 
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Dandy Crocodile

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Chad Michaels officiating the wedding, haha. Second drag race alum on the show.

THAT ENDING Noooooo
-Nadine
-Petra with the sample
-Mateo!!
-#teammichael

I need resolution to these plot threads now...
 
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TripOpt55

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Didn't love the very end with Mateo being taken, but otherwise a really good episode and an incredible first season. So much heart. So funny. So entertaining. Can't wait for next season.
 
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Leona Lewis

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TripOpt55 said:
Didn't love the very end with Mateo being taken, but otherwise a really good episode and an incredible first season. So much heart. So funny. So entertaining. Can't wait for next season.
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Totally agreed on the bolded. In the past, when characters were in dangerous situations, you actually felt nervous because you had no idea what was going to happen.

I, at least, was on the edge of my seat when Roman was about to kill Petra or when Alba was pushed down the stairs/potentially killed or paralyzed. Basically, the threat was palpable.

It's pretty obvious, though, that Mateo will be just fine and dandy unless this show veers into some unprecedented-for-TV levels of dark.
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

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Yeah, not sure how I feel about the last two minutes; but everything else in the finale was awesome.

Rogelio's ringtone is the best thing ever.

Also, #TeamMichael
 
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Blackhead

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Yeah the #MissingMateo was one of the few times, maybe the only time, where the telenovela trope was poor television. I can't think of any reason why Sin Rostro would want the baby especially after Rafeal already sold the chain of hotels she was using for the criminal network. Petra getting the last batch of sperm would have been a decent enough cliffhanger and we would be wondering if she's going to use it or hold it for ransom. #PregnantPetra would be a fun thing next season. A kidnapping though is no joke, too emotionally devastating :(

All that said, loved the finale. Xo and Rogelio getting hitched :O Team Michael or Team Rafeal :0 Nadine trap :eek: Looking forward to the return in the fall

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AVClub review Jane The Virgin: “Chapter Twenty-Two” A
I have the feeling things are only going to get better for Michael in season 2.

You see, Michael has a lead on where Sin Rostro may be hiding because he has a tracker on Nadine, who recently returned from being on the lam to strike a deal with the police. And Sin Rostro has Jane’s baby. Rescuing a baby would go a long way to breaking that “safe, familiar” image of Michael that Jane has in her head, and it would get Michael on Rafael’s level, which has been automatically elevated after the birth of his child. Jane, Rafael, and Mateo are connected for all time now, and the strength of that bond is what Michael has to fight against to win back Jane’s heart. And if it’s as strong as the bond Jane shares with her mother and grandmother, Michael is in for a very hard fight...

Who will play Sin Rostro next season? I like the idea that Sin Rostro sticks around for the entire series, played by a different actress each season as the character gets plastic surgery to change her appearance.
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hmm...
 
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Leona Lewis

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Hmm, that might make #MissingMateo a more substantive story development than I first thought.

I totally forgot about the Nadine thing, so It might also mean that his abduction isn't tortuously stretched out.
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

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Leona Lewis said:
Hmm, that might make #MissingMateo a more substantive story development than I first thought.

I totally forgot about the Nadine thing, so It might also mean that his abduction isn't tortuously stretched out.
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Yeah, that really gives a different perspective to the whole thing. As a proud representative of Team Michael, I approve of this development and hopefully it goes his way.
 
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KarmaCow

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I thought the fertility clinic calling was going to be more dramatic, that they switched the samples and it wasn't Rafael's kid. But then the topped it, and possibly overdid it, with the kidnapping. Jeez, how can that not just destroy Jane?
 
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Fantastical

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I'm on episode 11, Rogelio and Xo are the best part about the show. :p

DAMMNNN just saw Petra get her throat slit. That was shocking! What if that plan hadn't worked? That would be awkward. :p
 
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Blackhead

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LaunchpadMcQ

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sol_bad said:
Does that mean they'll stream new episodes week to week or that they'll have the whole of season 2 online to stream once it's finished? If its the latter does Hulu still get to stream new episodes week to week?
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They'll get the full season a few weeks before the new one starts. I believe Hulu will still stream episodes as the season is ongoing.
 
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Scribble

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I'm happy that Sin Rosto will most likely be recasted in the next season.
The actress looks the part, but she cannot act.
 
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Blackhead

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PhoncipleBone said:
So when does OT 2 go up? And who is making it?
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ivysaur12 did a great job with this OT and title (lured me in for one) but whoever does OT 2 needs to feature all of the cast too. Best ensemble on TV imo, Rogelio deserves all the love.

traditionally new OT goes up a week before the first episode of the season airs. Nobody has claimed it yet...
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Blackhead said:
ivysaur12 did a great job with this OT and title (lured me in for one) but whoever does OT 2 needs to feature all of the cast too. Best ensemble on TV imo, Rogelio deserves all the love.

traditionally new OT goes up a week before the first episode of the season airs. Nobody has claimed it yet...
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Leona Lewis

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Blackhead said:
ivysaur12 did a great job with this OT and title (lured me in for one) but whoever does OT 2 needs to feature all of the cast too. Best ensemble on TV imo, Rogelio deserves all the love.

traditionally new OT goes up a week before the first episode of the season airs. Nobody has claimed it yet...
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I'll make it~
 
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Leona Lewis

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I'll post the thread two days before the season begins.

I don't want the thread to fester too long before we actually have anything to discuss.

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Let me know if there are any objections.
 
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Sober

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Beat me to it, I was just gonna put one up if no one did it the day before it aired. But thanks LL!

Also Oct 12 is when it airs anyway, plenty of time.
 
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