Sir Alemeth
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What's GAF's opinion on their favorite rapper on the subject?
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...z-knocks-occupy-wall-street-article-1.1155236
Jay-Z knocks Occupy Wall Street
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What's GAF's opinion on their favorite rapper on the subject?
Source:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...z-knocks-occupy-wall-street-article-1.1155236
CharlieDigital
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RangersFan
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they were fighting working for a living...
I like that shirt.
CharlieDigital
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Jay-Z correctly highlights the difference between the guys that brought the system to the brink of collapse vs. self-made entrepreneurs like himself.
Jay-Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter, transformed himself from a poverty-stricken crack dealer to a multimillionaire music mogul and co-owner of the Brooklyn Nets.
He said Occupy Wall Street’s blanket demonization of the rich is un-American.
“I think all those things need to really declare themselves a bit more clearly because when you just say that ‘the 1 percent is that,’ that’s not true,” he said.
“Yeah, the 1 percent that’s robbing people, and deceiving people, these fixed mortgages and all these things, and then taking their home away from them, that’s criminal, that’s bad.
“Not being an entrepreneur. This is free enterprise. This is what America is built on.”
He said Occupy Wall Street’s blanket demonization of the rich is un-American.
“I think all those things need to really declare themselves a bit more clearly because when you just say that ‘the 1 percent is that,’ that’s not true,” he said.
“Yeah, the 1 percent that’s robbing people, and deceiving people, these fixed mortgages and all these things, and then taking their home away from them, that’s criminal, that’s bad.
“Not being an entrepreneur. This is free enterprise. This is what America is built on.”
King Mystery
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I thought GAF's favorite rapper was KRS-One.
notworksafe
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Well... he's not entirely wrong. It did seem pretty muddled.
yup
Other than the idea of protesting corporate greed as being unamerican, he's totally right.
The saddest thing about the Occupy movement is that hardly anyone who's there knows what they're fighting for. Most of the people there are doing it because it's something to do, they're not interested in change.
The occupy movement has gone on for so long and produced literally nothing. No leaders, no edicts of reform, no hypotheses on how to make things better, all they've done is be loud and block stairs.
It totally sucks that the assumption of going to college of grad school ensured that you'd have a job. But rather than taking the bull by the horns and making connections at the occupy groupings, people just...did nothing. Almost every one I talked to at OccupyBoston hadn't even checked in with a staffing agency at any point. Finding a job is harder than ever right now, sure, but you still have to try.
Nah that's just the percentage of his Nets ownership.
Actually it's not even that much.
ViewtifulJC
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After that "No Church in the Wild" song, this mothafucka should be the LAST person talking about meaningless protests.
And?
you think too highly of gaf
Last solo album went platinum, last year released a platinum collaboration album, had the biggest hip hop song last year?
That does not fit the definition of irrelevant.
Great shirt.
How does he define it?
Zoramon089
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Did anyone actually read what he even said? He made a good point
Are you implying GAF has taste?
And Jay-Z is contesting their right to assemble?
Lionheart1337
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Nas won
Dude Abides
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Has someone asked Ja Rule for his thoughts on this?
flippymittens
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Well he is very wealthy and society values him as wealthy. I understand his viewpoint but I disagree that Occupy Wall Street has a blanket demonization of the rich.
The movement was more a protest of the growing income inequality if I am not mistaken.
The movement was more a protest of the growing income inequality if I am not mistaken.
Darth Sonik
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In a way it's better that it did not have a coherent message. It raised consciousness about the inequalities inherent in the system. It wasn't easy to dismiss at first thought.
Its up to more focused follow up groups, to target specific policies.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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99% of GAF won't even read the op or article
Somebody get hold of this motherfucker so we can make sense of all this!
But that only read to the choir. People with a passing interest did not take time to dissect the multitude of messages.
Devolution
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Sounds more like Jay Z doesn't understand the difference between hating on the rich and protesting the ever increasing gap in wealth distribution in this country.
Occupy Wall Street was a terrible "movement" that seemed less like an actual movement standing up for what's right and more like a bunch of immature children who had no real idea what they actually wanted. To make matters worse, they were constantly pulling stupid stunts (like that Gaga bank takeover) that made it hard to support any message they had, even if fighting corruption and wealth gap are things that we should do. I firmly believe many people latched onto that "movement" without understanding what it was supposed to be about and thought it was all about getting free shit from the government.
It's kinda like Ron Paul, and I'm using him as an example because he's another one of those things that caught on quickly because of the internet, not trying to attack anyone. Many people don't actually know his policies or ideals but latch onto him because he's this fringe candidate that the internet convinced folks was a cool guy and totally better than everyone else. So then when you ask them why they support such a movement or candidate, they have no real answer.
It's kinda like Ron Paul, and I'm using him as an example because he's another one of those things that caught on quickly because of the internet, not trying to attack anyone. Many people don't actually know his policies or ideals but latch onto him because he's this fringe candidate that the internet convinced folks was a cool guy and totally better than everyone else. So then when you ask them why they support such a movement or candidate, they have no real answer.
CharlieDigital
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Too bad OWS did such a terrible job of conveying this.
Keru_Shiri
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Not really. Occupy's central message of accountability to those who brought about the economic collapse has been rather clear.
The idea that Occupy simply demonizes those with wealth indiscriminately was largely a media construct that a lot of people, Jay-Z included it seems. Though I admit that the Occupy movement did a piss-poor job in dispelling that, or really any notion at all. That, to me, is perhaps the most legitimate criticism of OWS.
flippymittens
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Well the topic creator's original post basically is the article give or take. I disagree with your figure that people here will not read the original post.
Isn't it a requirement to read the original post in order to post in a thread?
Even then the implication from the topic is true that Jay-Z is disagreeing with and diminishing the Occupy Wall Street Movement... So I would not necessarily believe that a reading of the original post would be necessary. Though I probably am wrong on this.
I'm not knocking KRS-One's talent, but the man is a dumbass.
Dude went on a rant recently how Kanye and anybody else that didn't come from the 'streets' can't be considered a hip hop artist.
Sounds more like Jay-Z is rich as fuck and doesn't give a shit.
flippymittens
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It is hard to convey a message when your group is being grossly generalized and the sensationalist media cherry picking the movement.
And the right to voice one's opinion about an incoherent rabble of protestors with no accomplishments and a confused message is what America was built on too.
Aika'svyse
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Now if we could just get him to stay out of Kanye songs
Devolution
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I don't know about no accomplishments. I think getting people to talk about wealth disparity seriously in this nation is a pretty big one.
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