Jerry Seinfeld says Who's Kesha?? No hugs for you!

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Now if the roles were reversed it wouldn't matter how the woman said no just so long as she says it...

Well it isn't wrong (even though I can't imagine someone not knowing who Jerry Seinfeld is). But let's not get all MRA about it.
 
I have a vague idea of who Kesha is, but can't put a face on her, only thing i know is she's some relevant popular artist right now.

I know who Seinfeld is, and can recognize his face, but my understanding of who Seinfeld is amounts to "has been who had a popular show in the 90s and whose comedy struggles to stay relevant".

Dude just got a hundred million dollar deal from Netflix but he's struggling to stay relevant. Oh and all his shows are always sold out.
 
I am legitimately bewildered right now.

She tried to hug someone, he said no, there was clear confusion on both their parts, then she walked away.

That has literally no relation to her accusing someone of sexual harassment and assault and battery. It is not even in the same realm.

But it's a good thing you know that trying to hug someone out of excitement for seeing them is "not as extreme as rape."

Jesus.
No means no. That's the connection/relation in both situations.
 
Hilarious. I like that the way Jerry acts in CYE especially him and Larrys weird aversion to things means him not hugging random women makes sense.
 
No means no. That's the connection/relation in both situations.

Right. And that's why she walked away! This was a 5 second interaction and she walked away.

But yes, let's shame the girl who dealt with violence and sexual abuse for 10 years because she tried to give someone a hug.
 
Forcing a hug upon someone is definitely sexual harassment. Obviously it's not extreme as rape or other sexual acts but it's still a violation. He said no multiple times and she advanced against him, forcing him to move away. I just thought she'd be hyper aware of boundaries/consent after what she went through.

Why sexual harassment and not just common assault?
 
I just realized something. Didnt kesha sue her producer for sexual assault? Kinda weird she'd just ignore boundaries and "no!" like that.

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Right. And that's why she walked away! This was a 5 second interaction and she walked away.

But yes, let's shame the girl who dealt with violence and sexual abuse for 10 years because she tried to give someone a hug.
I didn't shame her but I get the point people are making. The first "no" should be enough. He said it three times. She even got closer.
 
Why sexual harassment and not just common assault?

I don't know, I'm certainly not an expert. Lots of hug-based sexual harassment cases out there. Numerous companies/public institutions clearly mark unwanted hugging as a form of sexual harassment.

ZeoVGM said:
But yes, let's shame the girl who dealt with violence and sexual abuse for 10 years because she tried to give someone a hug.

Shaming? I don't see any shaming of kesha here. She just got excited about seeing Seinfeld and lost composure. I'd probably do the same thing.
 
I didn't shame her but I get the point people are making. The first "no" should be enough. He said it three times. She even got closer.
This is not a hill you wanna die on, man. Come on, I'm sure you can see how you're going to extremes with the comparison.
Edit: Oh wait it wasn't you who made the comparison. Sorry about that.
 
This is not a hill you wanna die on, man. Come on, I'm sure you can see how you're going to extremes with the comparison.
Yes. But I'm just pointing out the connection. Not the context. With that said, what she went through is awful, what he went through is nothing.
 
Shaming? I don't see any shaming of kesha here. She just got excited about seeing Seinfeld and lost composure. I'd probably do the same thing.

You said:

I just realized something. Didnt kesha sue her producer for sexual assault? Kinda weird she'd just ignore boundaries and "no!" like that.

That's shaming. You saw her try to hug someone and thought she should have been thinking, "Well, I was sexually assaulted in the past so maybe I shouldn't hug someone."

She was the victim, she shouldn't be expected to not hug a person more than someone who hasn't been assaulted, which is what you're implying.
 
As a non hugger, he handled that well, better than I could have. I will even follow his lead instead of seeming angry/rude as I reject hugs without thanking them for the attempt.

Thanks.
No, thanks.
No thanks.
Yeah, no thanks.
 
I am legitimately bewildered right now.

She tried to hug someone, he said no, there was clear confusion on both their parts, then she walked away.

There was no confusion though, she knows he said no the first time, but she kept pushing it. No means no. That's how consent works.
 
I just realized something. Didnt kesha sue her producer for sexual assault? Kinda weird she'd just ignore boundaries and "no!" like that.
Well, she DID ask first. If she really didn't care she'd have just zeroed in like some sort of hug monster.
 
Does she not know anything about him?

Who watches Seinfeld and thinks "The guy who created this must love hugging strangers"
 
As a non hugger, he handled that well, better than I could have. I will even follow his lead instead of seeming angry/rude as I reject hugs without thanking them for the attempt.

Thanks.
No, thanks.
No thanks.
Yeah, no thanks.

I'm the same way with high fives.

Just scram already.
 
Does she not know anything about him?

Who watches Seinfeld and thinks "The guy who created this must love hugging strangers"

She probably forgot and was in the state of being star struck. I wouldn't blame her, people seem to act strange, or out of character around people they idolize.
 
You said:

That's shaming. You say her try to hug someone and thought she should have been thinking, "Well, I was sexually assaulted in the past so maybe I shouldn't hug someone."

She was the victim, she shouldn't be expected to not hug a person more than someone who hasn't been assaulted, which is what you're implying.

My intent was not to shame her. The first time I saw the clip I didn't even think about her past situation. Then it clicked with me and I just found her lack of respect for his personal space and 3 attempts at physical contact despite his repeated rebuffs strange in that context.
 
Kesha was just obviously confused and a bit disappointed by Seinfeld's reaction. Hence why she asked a few times.
Maybe he was joking at first?
Ok, he wasn't joking, but he really doesn't wanna hug?
Ok it's clear he doesn't want a hug, walk away.
 
I wouldn't recognize her either. Hugging strangers is weird. Hell, hugging second cousins or aunt's I never see is weird too. A small wave from across the room is just fine.
 
You said:



That's shaming. You saw her try to hug someone and thought she should have been thinking, "Well, I was sexually assaulted in the past so maybe I shouldn't hug someone."

He didn't say that. He simply said that she should understand as well as anyone that no means no. She is not a victim in this situation.
 
Should have taken the no and moved on. If someone doesn't want to hug you then that's their right. Also trying to hug a random person who has no clue who you are is just weird. He was very polite too. It isn't like he called her names, talked shit about her, or insulted her.
 
That's typical Jerry

George "So she asked if she could hug you?"

Jerry "She did."

George "And you said No Thanks."

Jerry "Was that wrong? Who wants hugs all the time? What kind of person walks up to someone and asks for a hug. It's kinda creepy"

George "Indeed. And she did ask the question"

Jerry "She asked the question"
 
That's typical Jerry

George "So she asked if she could hug you?"

Jerry "She did."

George "And you said No Thanks."

Jerry "Was that wrong? Who wants hugs all the time? What kind of person walks up to someone and asks for a hug. It's kinda creepy"

George "Indeed. And she did ask the question"

Jerry "She asked the question"

I recreated this in my head, it was just perfect.
 
Well that was very...Jerry Seinfeld. He did say no thanks a few times. I think he was being as polite as he can be. Not everyone in the world would know who Ke$ha is.
 
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