Jian Gomeshi arrested for sexual assault and choking. Lawsuit against CBC dropped.

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Uh-huh, what?

George left his show for a much more lucrative gig at Rogers as the host for HNIC. Why do make it sound like a demotion?

From Strombo's wiki:

Hockey Night in Canada and move to Rogers

On March 10, 2014, Rogers Media officially announced that Stroumboulopoulos would serve as the main host of its NHL coverage, including Hockey Night in Canada, beginning in October 2014, replacing Ron MacLean. Concurrently, CBC announced the cancellation of George Stroumboulopoulos Tonight after a 10-year run.

So that's MacIntyre, Jian, Strombo, and Ron MacLean gone from the CBC in the last year? The budget cuts are well documented. The Tories are no fans of the CBC. It's not a demotion for Strombo necessarily, but it speaks to the climate around CBC right now.
 
A gnome sues Canada. WTF?

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I can't see the CBC firing someone over BDSM crap. This is Canada in 2014, and Gomeshi isn't Mansbridge. No one is going to care if a kinda-popular radio host has a freaky side.

So that's MacIntyre, Jian, Strombo, and Ron MacLean gone from the CBC in the last year? The budget cuts are well documented. The Tories are no fans of the CBC. It's not a demotion for Strombo necessarily, but it speaks to the climate around CBC right now.

2 of those 4 departures were because of Rogers' buying the NHL's broadcast rights, not funding cuts, and the odd one out (MacIntyre) was probably an direct result of the hockey stuff too.
 
From the Star article, if Jian's lawyer's comment about the text messages are true, then there's a very good reason to believe that this case will fall flat on its face. One side has allegations, the other has actual evidence.

Also, there seems to be two sides to the alleged CBC employee harassment. The Star article mentions that it was reported but brushed aside. Jian's statement says that there was nothing brought forth at all to HR.
 

That's good. So's this one about that story:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...ose_to_publish_jian_ghomeshi_allegations.html

The Star began working on this story in May. The Star’s Kevin Donovan interviewed four women who detailed what they said was sexual abuse. None filed police complaints and none would agree to be identified in a story.

Mr. Ghomeshi wrote Sunday night that “I have always been interested in a variety of activities in the bedroom but I only participate in sexual practices that are mutually agreed upon, consensual, and exciting for both partners.”

The reason The Star did not publish a story at that time was because there was no proof the women’s allegations of non-consensual abusive sex were true or false. They were so explosive that to print them would have been irresponsible, and would have fallen far short of the Star’s standards of accuracy and fairness.

Kevin "Crack Tape" Donovan himself was on the story. Clearly The Star, an independent outlet, thought this story had some merit.

Jian was smart going out there first and on a Sunday, the lawsuit too. He's knows the CBC bureaucracy can't react fast enough and won't speak on a pending suit.

The XOJane article was sleazy, but not criminal. Some of the other women in that first Star piece are making criminal claims.

Gonna be an interesting week.

Also, there seems to be two sides to the alleged CBC employee harassment. The Star article mentions that it was reported but brushed aside. Jian's statement says that there was nothing brought forth at all to HR.

There should be documentation of some kind then. That'll be a real test.
 
Also, there seems to be two sides to the alleged CBC employee harassment. The Star article mentions that it was reported but brushed aside. Jian's statement says that there was nothing brought forth at all to HR.

The two stories don't contradict. She went to her union rep, the rep went to a show producer who did fuck all. The end; no HR.
 
2 of those 4 departures were because of Rogers' buying the NHL's broadcast rights, not funding cuts, and the odd one out (MacIntyre) was probably an direct result of the hockey stuff too.

Kind of OT, but it was reported in the Globe and Mail a few weeks back that CBC's bungling of the broadcast right negotiations led to a lot of cutbacks and general uncertainty about the future of the network. They need every advantage they can get right now - this isn't a good time for a sex scandal involving one of their biggest hosts to crop up.
 
Are you serious? You certainly aren't speaking for me. I LOVE "Q". He was basically the only reason I tuned into CBC radio anymore.

He was/is a great interviewee and I sure as fuck hope he bring the CBC down to there knee's now.
Even if he actually did rape someone? Also, he was average at best. Decent radio voice was all he had going for himself.
 
$50M lawsuits don't fly in Canada. Nothing screams frivolous lawsuit more than asking for a ridiculous amount of money.
 
I honestly wonder if Navigator was hired after the lawsuit. Suing the CBC for $50 million is such a dumb move, that he won't get any of, that I can't imagine a crisis team saying "yea, make the story bigger".
 
Having consistent allegations from multiple sources (who presumably are unrelated) is pretty damning for Jian. Of course, his letter already framed this as a conspiracy where someone stole the phone numbers of his previous dates from him. That really was a strong piece of PR for his defense.
 
$50M lawsuits don't fly in Canada. Nothing screams frivolous lawsuit more than asking for a ridiculous amount of money.

I honestly wonder if Navigator was hired after the lawsuit. Suing the CBC for $50 million is such a dumb move, that he won't get any of, that I can't imagine a crisis team saying "yea, make the story bigger".

Maybe he thinks he's worth $50 mil ;)

Not too long ago, [Jian Ghomeshi] called his father to tell him that his contract with the CBC had been renegotiated, and that his income would rise substantially. “I’m hardly raking in the bucks, but it was, by my standards of having been a musician,” he said, a princely amount. He told his father the new salary.

The response? “That is great. But you know, Larry King, he is making $60 million a year."
 
Oh my god, that story on XO Jane is so cringeworthy and disturbing.

I figured he’d get the point since I moved, but instead, he followed me. I watched the concert intently, but he soon grabbed my hand to hold it.

His friends were right behind us, and they all smiled when I looked back. Despite my extreme discomfort, I felt I couldn’t tell Keith off, so I discreetly pulled my hand away, crossed my arms over my stomach and stared straight ahead.

When he started rubbing my back, I again told him to stop, and when he put his hand over my shoulders, I said I was hot and lifted it off.

“Oh yeah, you’re hot,” he replied.
 
Having consistent allegations from multiple sources (who presumably are unrelated) is pretty damning for Jian.
I'm not taking sides on this issue because we simply don't have enough information yet, but there's potentially a big difference between having allegations from multiple sources, and having allegations from jilted ex-girlfriends.
 
I have no idea who this guy is, but this looks like it isn't the first time he's done something like this. Probably works too.
 
Having consistent allegations from multiple sources (who presumably are unrelated) is pretty damning for Jian. Of course, his letter already framed this as a conspiracy where someone stole the phone numbers of his previous dates from him. That really was a strong piece of PR for his defense.

After the Bryan Singer thing will be withholding judgement until more info is available. I was pretty sure he had fucked up, multiple accusers etc, but now all the lawsuits have fallen apart. Not saying Ghomeshi has been set up or anything, I am just withholding making a conclusion at the moment.
 
After the Bryan Singer thing will be withholding judgement until more info is available. I was pretty sure he had fucked up, multiple accusers etc, but now all the lawsuits have fallen apart. Not saying Ghomeshi has been set up or anything, I am just withholding making a conclusion at the moment.
That's the stance I'm taking as well.

Aside from seeing the odd interview I'm not really familiar with the guy, so I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other, but I'm not willing to condemn him based on allegations which are, as of yet, baseless.
 

comment on Gawker article:

As a woman in that tweeter's demo, I can confirm this. In both the Toronto media and music scenes (Am a member of the former and sometime member of the latter) he's considered a huge creep.

A friend of mine used to work at CBC; she is claiming in posts that the news is "bad" and "dark" and that it's "all coming out soon".

Working goss (ie unverified speculation) around town is that a story about Jian is about to break and they took it to CBC first out of respect.
 
It's interesting to me that that is your first thought and not "what are the allegations and do they have a valid basis?"

If she went there once and claimed this I would wait and see. If she was going there over a period of months that really suggest she wasnt a willing participant.
 
After the Bryan Singer thing will be withholding judgement until more info is available. I was pretty sure he had fucked up, multiple accusers etc, but now all the lawsuits have fallen apart. Not saying Ghomeshi has been set up or anything, I am just withholding making a conclusion at the moment.

Pretty much my stance as well. Singer was railroaded pretty hard before anything was even confirmed. I'm guilty of taking part in that. Won't make the same mistake twice.
 
I'm not taking sides on this issue because we simply don't have enough information yet, but there's potentially a big difference between having allegations from multiple sources, and having allegations from jilted ex-girlfriends.

After the Bryan Singer thing will be withholding judgement until more info is available. I was pretty sure he had fucked up, multiple accusers etc, but now all the lawsuits have fallen apart. Not saying Ghomeshi has been set up or anything, I am just withholding making a conclusion at the moment.

Pretty much my stance as well. Singer was railroaded pretty hard before anything was even confirmed. I'm guilty of taking part in that. Won't make the same mistake twice.

1) The public preemptively calling all four women "jilted ex-girlfriends" is exactly what his long-winded and self-victimizing statement on Facebook was designed to set in motion.

2) Comparing this to Bryan Singer is fruitless, since none of the women in this case have asked for money.
 
That's the stance I'm taking as well.

Aside from seeing the odd interview I'm not really familiar with the guy, so I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other, but I'm not willing to condemn him based on allegations which are, as of yet, baseless.

How, beyond witness reports, are we supposed to substantiate this kind of claim of sexual violence? Do you need video footage of him assaulting someone? I get that you don't want to condemn someone without evidence, but "jilted" ex's or not, these women's claims should be taken as valid.
 
What's Ghomeshi's side of the story?

edit nm found it https://www.facebook.com/jianghomeshi/posts/10152357063881750

I’ve been fired from the CBC because of the risk of my private sex life being made public as a result of a campaign of false allegations pursued by a jilted ex girlfriend and a freelance writer.

As friends and family of mine, you are owed the truth.

I have commenced legal proceedings against the CBC, what’s important to me is that you know what happened and why.

Forgive me if what follows may be shocking to some.

I have always been interested in a variety of activities in the bedroom but I only participate in sexual practices that are mutually agreed upon, consensual, and exciting for both partners.

About two years ago I started seeing a woman in her late 20s. Our relationship was affectionate, casual and passionate. We saw each other on and off over the period of a year and began engaging in adventurous forms of sex that included role-play, dominance and submission. We discussed our interests at length before engaging in rough sex (forms of BDSM). We talked about using safe words and regularly checked in with each other about our comfort levels. She encouraged our role-play and often was the initiator. We joked about our relations being like a mild form of Fifty Shades of Grey or a story from Lynn Coady's Giller-Prize winning book last year. I don’t wish to get into any more detail because it is truly not anyone's business what two consenting adults do. I have never
discussed my private life before. Sexual preferences are a human right Despite a strong connection between us it became clear to me that our on-and-off dating was unlikely to grow into a larger relationship and I ended things in the beginning of this year. She was upset by this and sent me messages indicating her disappointment that I would not commit to more, and her anger that I was seeing others.

After this, in the early spring there began a campaign of harassment, vengeance and demonization against me that would lead to months of anxiety.

It came to light that a woman had begun anonymously reaching out to people that I had dated (via Facebook) to tell them she had been a victim of abusive relations with me. In other words, someone was reframing what had been an ongoing consensual relationship as something nefarious. I learned – through one of my friends who got in contact with this person – that someone had rifled through my phone on one occasion and taken down the names of any woman I had seemed to have been dating in recent years. This person had begun methodically contacting them to try to build a story against me. Increasingly, female friends and ex-girlfriends of mine told me about these attempts to smear me.

Now to find out who the women alleging all this is and see if she's a freak or not...
 
How, beyond witness reports, are we supposed to substantiate this kind of claim of sexual violence? Do you need video footage of him assaulting someone? I get that you don't want to condemn someone without evidence, but "jilted" ex's or not, these women's claims should be taken as valid.

Your last sentence doesn't make a lot of sense. They should be investigated, that much is certain.
 
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