Jian Gomeshi arrested for sexual assault and choking. Lawsuit against CBC dropped.

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The root of Ghomeshi's complaint appears to be:
- Pierre Trudeau decriminalized homosexuality so it's not OK to fire someone for ??? wait this has nothing to do with anything
- He voluntarily and pre-emptively disclosed details about his relationship to CBC
- They were satisfied the allegations were false
- Nonetheless, they terminated him because of possible perception issues related to the story breaking.
- This appears to be one of his complaints: that he was fired despite being forthcoming with the CBC--but this makes no sense. If he agrees that he was fired for cause, then I'm not sure why disclosing the information that would lead to him being fired for cause somehow means he can't be fired for cause?
- The CBC's termination statement slightly differed from the agreed upon language in that it suggests Ghomeshi was fired rather than consciously uncoupling or whatever
- This appears to be another one of his complaints: that they said he was fired rather than saying they mutually ended their relationship. This seems like a slightly stronger case, but I can't imagine the people who made the public statement had signed any contractual non-disclosure thing. I know that companies typically avoid talking about firing someone, but it's not illegal to do so, and given that they didn't actually say what the information was, I don't know how it could possibly be defamatory?

I don't really understand his case. I'm not a lawyer, but even if we start from the assumption that the CBC thought he wasn't guilty of any wrongdoing, what's his case?

As AngryJoe so eloquently put it, it boils down to "fuck you, give me money". It's a showman trick and nothing more.

His statement seems to be written for the public more than a legal body. This is actually the first lawsuit I've read where the plaintiff begins with a quote from someone else. It has no bearing on a judge's decision.

In the end, it seems to boil down to semantics. If he agrees that CBC had cause, he'll have to prove damages. CBC's responses haven't been defamatory, and the only thing they've really said is, "We have information that justifies the termination." The supporting documents and affidavits may be the most entertaining thing to come out of this whole debacle.

Unless he's prepared to air his dirty laundry, I don't see this going much further than Superior Court. The fact that people are coming out of the woodwork to defend him (including Owen Pallett, a member of the Arcade Fire/solo artist) is telling. It seems like Ghomeshi's behaviour was an open secret more than anything else.
 
Unless he's prepared to air his dirty laundry, I don't see this going much further than Superior Court. The fact that people are coming out of the woodwork to defend him (including Owen Pallett, a member of the Arcade Fire/solo artist) is telling. It seems like Ghomeshi's behaviour was an open secret more than anything else.

I wouldn't really say Owen has defended him.
 
The root of Ghomeshi's complaint appears to be:
- Pierre Trudeau decriminalized homosexuality so it's not OK to fire someone for ??? wait this has nothing to do with anything
- He voluntarily and pre-emptively disclosed details about his relationship to CBC
- They were satisfied the allegations were false
- Nonetheless, they terminated him because of possible perception issues related to the story breaking.

- This appears to be one of his complaints: that he was fired despite being forthcoming with the CBC--but this makes no sense. If he agrees that he was fired for cause, then I'm not sure why disclosing the information that would lead to him being fired for cause somehow means he can't be fired for cause?
- The CBC's termination statement slightly differed from the agreed upon language in that it suggests Ghomeshi was fired rather than consciously uncoupling or whatever
- This appears to be another one of his complaints: that they said he was fired rather than saying they mutually ended their relationship. This seems like a slightly stronger case, but I can't imagine the people who made the public statement had signed any contractual non-disclosure thing. I know that companies typically avoid talking about firing someone, but it's not illegal to do so, and given that they didn't actually say what the information was, I don't know how it could possibly be defamatory?

I don't really understand his case. I'm not a lawyer, but even if we start from the assumption that the CBC thought he wasn't guilty of any wrongdoing, what's his case?

If, and it is a big fucking if, those two I bolded are actually true, I can see how he would feel hard done by. Whether he has a case or not is something I don't know at all. But if my employer agreed there was nothing to a claim and fired me anyway, I would be livid.
 
The root of Ghomeshi's complaint appears to be:
- Pierre Trudeau decriminalized homosexuality so it's not OK to fire someone for ??? wait this has nothing to do with anything
- He voluntarily and pre-emptively disclosed details about his relationship to CBC
- They were satisfied the allegations were false
- Nonetheless, they terminated him because of possible perception issues related to the story breaking.
- This appears to be one of his complaints: that he was fired despite being forthcoming with the CBC--but this makes no sense. If he agrees that he was fired for cause, then I'm not sure why disclosing the information that would lead to him being fired for cause somehow means he can't be fired for cause?
- The CBC's termination statement slightly differed from the agreed upon language in that it suggests Ghomeshi was fired rather than consciously uncoupling or whatever
- This appears to be another one of his complaints: that they said he was fired rather than saying they mutually ended their relationship. This seems like a slightly stronger case, but I can't imagine the people who made the public statement had signed any contractual non-disclosure thing. I know that companies typically avoid talking about firing someone, but it's not illegal to do so, and given that they didn't actually say what the information was, I don't know how it could possibly be defamatory?

I don't really understand his case. I'm not a lawyer, but even if we start from the assumption that the CBC thought he wasn't guilty of any wrongdoing, what's his case?
But if Ghomeshi knows, as he must, that his civil case will be quickly dismissed, there appear to be two good reasons to file the suit anyway: One, it gets his story onto the public record, without any possible recourse. Statements of claim are privileged; through this claim, Ghomeshi, like any litigant, can get anything he wishes onto the public record with absolute legal impunity. The arbitration process where his case must ultimately end up due to his unionized status, is entirely private.

Unlike with his more moderate Facebook posting, Ghomeshi cannot be sued for whatever he decides to state in his claim, however libellous it is. Issuing a statement of claim — however frivolous — is therefore often a PR masterstroke. It gets his message onto the public record, and reported, without any fear of legal repercussion. Indeed, the claim (which is currently getting thousands of readers online) pretty viciously disparages the CBC’s management.

The same impunity, by the way, applies to the CBC, which is why it should get its own, equally privileged, version onto the public record in the form of a statement of defence before Ghomeshi drops his case, which he assuredly eventually will.

But in this contest of wills and narratives, there is an even more compelling reason for him to sue civilly. If the anonymous accusers are weighing whether to go public, a $55-million action must give them pause.

Who is going to risk being potentially sued for defamation by a party who has already assembled a team of lawyers and PR agents and showed a readiness to take on even the comparatively powerful CBC for $55-million? Given that they have already been painted by Ghomeshi’s version of events as being into BDSM kink — something they may not even be, or may not want known to friends and family — how quickly will any accusers come forward publicly now and risk being joined to this outsized action?

http://business.financialpost.com/2014/10/28/jian-ghomseshi-lawsuit-cbc/
 
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Ghomeshi was abused when he was a kid.

Two of the women who allege they were physically assaulted also say that before the alleged assaults in his home he introduced them to Big Ears Teddy, a stuffed bear, and he turned the bear around just before he slapped or choked them, saying that “Big Ears Teddy shouldn’t see this.”

I mean, "Big Ears Teddy shouldn’t see this" is something an abusive father would say to his son.

Of course, it wouldn't excuse anything.
 
This guy is an absolute scumbag. My girlfriend had an awful experience with him years ago, and has heard rumours from other girls about his predatory behaviour for years. None of this surprises me and I hope this piece of shit gets everything he deserves. I'm happy to see more women come out against him.
 
On the bright side, which is difficult to find in this story....at least it wasn't kids that he was abusing. Wouldn't be surprised if that is revealed to at this point.
 
As much as I liked the program Q but never really liked Ghomeshi personally (but appreciated his talent), I never thought I would ever see the words "Jian Ghomeshi sexual violence" in the same sentence.

Just wow.
 
This is only going to snowball as more women come forward and/or choose to identify themselves. The details in that article are extremely detailed and include women from across the country. There's no way this isn't going to get worse.
 
Hopefully her letter of resignation.

Christie's always been an ass. Take it from someone who met her before and had at least one friend sit in at a trial she was covering. She has a penchant for being stuck-up and thinking she's better than everyone.

Her article is just click-bait - nothing more.
 
So far this just seems like a public humiliation attempt.

In his facebook post he claimed this was all BDSM and he had clear consent.
ALOT of women are into that whole 50-shades of Grey thing so why isn't his story plausible?

And these women are only coming forward now. Why wait till he gets fired? And this was all after a jealous ex went and stalked his previous ex's and tried to get them to come forward.

I mean who doesn't have at least one crazy ex who would turn on you in an instant if she had the power to hurt you?

At least let the story settle and develop before making harsh judgments.
 
So far this just seems like a public humiliation attempt.

In his facebook post he claimed this was all BDSM and he had clear consent.
ALOT of women are into that whole 50-shades of Grey thing so why isn't his story plausible?

And these women are only coming forward now. Why wait till he gets fired? And this was all after a jealous ex went and stalked his previous ex's and tried to get them to come forward.

I mean who doesn't have at least one crazy ex who would turn on you in an instant if she had the power to hurt you?

At least let the story settle and develop before making harsh judgments.
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At least let the story settle and develop before making harsh judgments.

Yes I agree you shouldn't dismiss someone's persp...
So far this just seems like a public humiliation attempt.

Oh.

And these women are only coming forward now. Why wait till he gets fired? And this was all after a jealous ex went and stalked his previous ex's and tried to get them to come forward.

Oh.
 
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