Crayon
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If that's all true then he deserves the win. I'm not even mad.
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Jill Stein Launches Fundraising Effort To Ask For A Recount In 3 States
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If that's all true then he deserves the win. I'm not even mad.
Rentahamster
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The point we are trying to establish is if Jill Stein endorsed Trump over Clinton.
Smiles and Cries
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2 States now
Wisconsin: $1.1 million by Nov 25
Pennsylvania: $.5 million by Nov 28
next up
Michigan: $.6 million by Nov 30
2 States now
Wisconsin: $1.1 million by Nov 25
Pennsylvania: $.5 million by Nov 28
next up
Michigan: $.6 million by Nov 30
Calamari41
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Proof that the Russians infiltrated the recount effort too.
Actually the point in contention was who she said she wanted to win. By saying Clinton was the scarier and likely to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia, you can see the game she was playing.
I actually don't believe she wanted to see Trump win honestly, as I said earlier in the thread she probably assumed like many of us Clinton would win easily, was trying to siphon off left of centre voters, and misjudged the outcome.
Skellig Gra
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She didn't endorse either explicitly that would make no sense as she was also running.
Crayon
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If they back out on the Wii u version it will be the end of democracy.
Freeza Under The Shower
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" AHA! You triggered... my TRUMP card! "
Enosh
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eh the PA one is apparently a bit more complicated
also I don't get the logic behind this, if voter fraud is possible, what's to stop Trump from claiming it was the recount that was rigged not the first vote?
A fool and his money...
Smiles and Cries
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kinda shocked at how fast it is still moving at 10:12PM EST
Team Alucard
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based stein
Voysa Reezun
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I don't know how I feel about this. God help us if somehow Stein triggers a recount and fraud is found in favor of Trump or the recount flips all three states to Clinton. We legit will have nutbars shooting up the streets.
whyamihere
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To be fair, I don't think it would be as terrible as faithless electors.
Garrett 2U
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Just imagine the recount flips the three states to Clinton.
Do we think Trump is going to concede? It's going to be messy.
What if they find tampering in one or two of those states? What ramifications does that have on the election and the validity of the other state elections?
Do we think Trump is going to concede? It's going to be messy.
What if they find tampering in one or two of those states? What ramifications does that have on the election and the validity of the other state elections?
House seats the president. Still TrumpNew Elections and one more year of Obama.
Voysa Reezun
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Maybe, but that's not exactly a comp that settles my unease. Having your house burn down is better than having your house burn down with you trapped in the flames, but yeah, your house still burned down in the end.
Anyone in the election can request a recount, they just have to pay for it. Doing a recount takes a lot of time and resources. In most states it will cost those election officials their holidays in addition to many hours of overtime. That's not something they're going to just do for free.
Source: my father is an election official in Virginia.
User Name Here
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While still cashing in on all of the connections and deals he was able to make.
Smiles and Cries
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1.7M for history buffs lol
That would be the expectation, with a slight possible difference.
If the recount were to show more votes for Clinton, indicating massive scale fraud in 1 state (or more) organized by either a foreign power, or more likely the Gop and the Trump campaign, that's when you would want to hold onto your buttocks.
Such a revelation would tear this country appart like we can't even imagine.
Calamari41
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Massive scale voter fraud organized by a foreign power would be the kickoff of World War 3.
User Name Here
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New Elections and one more year of Obama.
What about congress? Would it stay the same? Not like they'd have a year to fix this voter suppression garbage...
Or would they?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-restrictions-on-partisan-gerrymandering.html
Even though that's about gerrymandering lol.
The situation isn't complicated at all. I said it was ironic, not to mention hypocritical of her. You seem to take offence to that. I'm not saying she cost Clinton the election, just that she isn't very bright.
Rentahamster
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You make it sound like that's the only thing she ever said about the comparison between Trump and Clinton.
She also didn't "prefer" one to the other. She acknowledged different analyses about aspects of each candidates' campaigns, but not a blanket "yeah this one is better" statement.
I'm not taking offense to anything. I'm pointing out the facts of the matter.
jim-jam bongs
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As much as I don't want Trump to be the president, the ramifications of finding fraud of the scale required to nullify his win would be devastating for democracy in the US. Possibly even worldwide, honestly.
Faithless electors sending it to the house and giving us a Romney presidency would probably be the best case scenario if they come into play.
It could easily lead to war on multiple fronts
Skellig Gra
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Team Alucard
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How much did Mook and Podesta chip in?
Good. Better than the ramifications of four years of "climate change is a Chinese hoax" and his trusty sidekick "let's electrocute gay kids"
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Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Smiles and Cries
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It would be quite devastating, but people would deserve find out the truth if it really occurred, no? In my eyes, things like voter ID laws/suppression tactics, Comey's violation of the Hatch Act, and the Russia's hacking are already immense aberrations of the political process.
Calamari41
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Anybody sane would want it exposed if it actually happened. But to actively hope that it happened is insanity. I think that's the point that was being made.
Like the difference between saying "If Scalia was murdered, I hope we find out the truth" vs saying "I hope Obama is proven to have ordered a hit on Scalia"
If it were true, then there is no democracy and gov't would need rebuilt. It's ridiculous to say, "well let's not rock the boat." when the system is a failure.
Smiles and Cries
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still moving fast
Be careful what you wish for. Could get real ugly if there is a large scale fraud.
Guess I'm insane for praying we don't have a neo nazi presidency
How? If there is voter fraud going on in this country, it needs to be investigated. Even if it turns out there was no fraud and the recount does little, it gives some people a sense of closure.
How could anyone be against a recount? What have we got to lose???
I wish I could see it in real time
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