I can give you multiple people with very strong qualifications who brush this off as nothing more than what it is - a pipe dream, basically a conspiracy theory. I get what you're saying as in a why not scenario, but given how this is happening it's simply not the way to do it, again especially from the hypocritical nut that is Jill stein. What does she even stand for anyway? She likely knows full well this will lead to nothing and is loving her name getting attention.
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Jill Stein Launches Fundraising Effort To Ask For A Recount In 3 States
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I can give you multiple people with very strong qualifications who brush this off as nothing more than what it is - a pipe dream, basically a conspiracy theory. I get what you're saying as in a why not scenario, but given how this is happening it's simply not the way to do it, again especially from the hypocritical nut that is Jill stein. What does she even stand for anyway? She likely knows full well this will lead to nothing and is loving her name getting attention.
JordanN
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Seriously, where are the liberal billionaires?
Bill Gates? Zuckerberg? Ted Turner? Can't someone just depart with 0.01% of their cash to save this election?
I'm hopeful, but I know this really has a very tiny, tiny chance of actually changing anything. At least it may help put to bed notions that the election was 'rigged'. Would be hilarious if it changed things and fucking wacky Jill Stein of all people is the one that overturns it.
Smiles and Cries
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are you saying people will be too busy eating and shopping to care?
Garrett Hawke
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What a twist
jim-jam bongs
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Mark Cuban will save us all
What a shock that someone in bed with the Russians would weeks later want to try and throw the election into doubt. Its alsmost as if that was the Russian's entire goal to cast doubt on the US elections so they can parade around about corrupt America who can't judge other nations etc.
Yay, or, they don't make enough funding and Jill Stein runs off with the remaining money and extra publicity from this. Meh
Smiles and Cries
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$500K go go go
I agree with this as well. Makes no sense crowd funding this from people who can actually use that money. That being said i do believe if they thought there was even a sliver of a chance they would do it, but they know this is not happening.
and watching football
People are emotionally done with the election.
Stein is doing this off of information that's been debunked by multiple data analysts already (not to mention that MI uses paper ballots, not electronic ballots like the information thrown out suggested).
I sure hope not. I don't want taxpayer funds spent to satisfy delusion conspiracy theorist's flights of fancy.
The election result sucks, and it's not what I wanted or expected, but there is no real evidence to support the idea that the voting was fraudulent, and spending time/hope/money on it is a waste.
Why feel bad for them? Whether they voted for Stein, Johnson, or nobody, anyone who didn't vote for Hillary made a conscious decision that a Trump presidency and Hillary presidency meant the same thing to them. They're as deserving of pity as actual Trump voters: exactly zero.
Says who?
Calamari41
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This just seems exploitative. I feel like if there were an actual shot at a recount mattering, someone like Soros would have already dropped the relative pocket change to make the it happen.
Brawndo Addict
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Here's the problem with recounts. Even in the 2000 election in Florida, where there was all kinds of arguments over how to properly interpret the horribly designed ballots, the final tally was still only expected to shift by hundreds, not thousands, of votes. And as far as I know, there are no arguments that bad ballot design caused issues in this election, so we might expect any changes to the final tally to be even narrower. Hillary lost by tens of thousands of votes, a recount isn't going to make up that difference.
The real tragedy of this election is the same as it was in 2000; it's about the votes that were prevented from being cast in the first place. Voter ID laws, reduced polling stations and polling hours, voter intimidation and misinformation, etc. Recounts only change the results a few tenths of a percent; ensuring that everyone who wants to cast a ballot can cast a ballot changes the results by 10% or more.
The real tragedy of this election is the same as it was in 2000; it's about the votes that were prevented from being cast in the first place. Voter ID laws, reduced polling stations and polling hours, voter intimidation and misinformation, etc. Recounts only change the results a few tenths of a percent; ensuring that everyone who wants to cast a ballot can cast a ballot changes the results by 10% or more.
Smiles and Cries
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I get it, but I'm invested now so I'll watch this ride out
Hyperactivity
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That's why I find it somewhat funny
I doubt there's anything to be changed, but Stein doing this, and likely funding it at the rate she's going (3 pushes generally when it comes to kickstarter funding: beginning push, when media pick it up (tonight to tomorrow morning), and end push), where's she's already at 500k/2500k, means that she can have a decent amount of free good publicity, Dems can continue to not look stupid on the likelihood it's nothing, and if there is something it will be made into a much bigger deal
They said they'd go for as many recounts ss they could afford by Friday, so getting just Wisconsin done by Friday might be enough to see if there is anything to see
But guys, don't get your hopes up
At the same time though: HOLY SHIT HAS 2016 BEEN SOME RIDE!!
Mentosrock
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If Jill Stein calls for a recount and Hillary Clinton becomes president, she will have saved us, meaning THE WORLD.
How will money help asking for a recount? Do they literally just upfront charge a million dollars for a recount vote?
How will money help asking for a recount? Do they literally just upfront charge a million dollars for a recount vote?
It's pretty obvious. They're tired, they're emotionally drained, and they just want it over with.
Garrett Hawke
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KB who is a trump supporter.
I don't think people are "emotionally done", at all. I also don't think that a recount would change anything, but people are far from "emotionally done".
Who?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I mean, I guess this is fun, and I guess anything to protest Trump's presidency is worthwhile, but it's not like anything will change.
Let's not forget Buffett, who actively supported Clinton and spoke at rallies, regularly called Trump out, and pushed hard to try an get Nebraska's 2nd congressional district to vote blue (including a big campaign to help people get to voting locations, with him personally driving some people).
Court costs or something? Think you have to sue to force a recount.
Let's not forget Buffett, who actively supported Clinton and spoke at rallies, regularly called Trump out, and pushed hard to try an get Nebraska's 2nd congressional district to vote blue (including a big campaign to help people get to voting locations, with him personally driving some people).
Court costs or something? Think you have to sue to force a recount.
Smiles and Cries
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Trump is going to keep a secret list of all the naughty people who donated to this recount
Sweaty, this election is far from done. We have four years of emotion ahead.
People don't want another 2000 scenario where a concession is pulled and we're pulled into a quagmire of uncertainty for 3-4 weeks. Especially when you consider how far into the transition process is. To disrupt that now would be disastrous.
Garrett Hawke
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Agreed
The state of things right now is already disastrous.
Hyperactivity
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I just...
I don't think 2016 will ever be topped as the craziest and strangest election year. XD
I don't think 2016 will ever be topped as the craziest and strangest election year. XD
Smiles and Cries
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I would feel better if this was a ton of $5 donation than someone who has Trump money throwing there weight around
not that I care how this get done if it gets done
User Name Here
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A freaking Netflix produced show at the end of it's season twist.
Smiles and Cries
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CNN just reported on the recount findings and mentioned 'Jill Stein trying to raise some money' <- exact words not taking this seriously at all
Garrett Hawke
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lmaooooo
3-4 weeks? Dear god, the horror. You're pulling some hyperbole out of your ass right now.
What kind of disastrous disruption would be caused to the transition? Cancelled office supply orders?
PantherLotus
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(i think this is the point)
Why should they be?
Smiles and Cries
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Jill Stein trending on Twitter (barely) on the bottom of list but major outlets are tweeting the story so go RT
Trumps like 8 days into his transition. He didn't even start until last week.
Smiles and Cries
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Garrett Hawke
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Omg I wasn't laughing at them reporting it, they should
I was laughing at the wording
Sounds like she's just trying to fund a holiday or something 😂
Not blindly hoping for miracles? Not buying into conspiracy theories build on absolutely no evidence? Which one?
Smiles and Cries
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jim-jam bongs
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To be fair, we're still not sure that she isn't.
Hyperactivity
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I'm laughing at the realization that a bunch of my family members would actually donate to this
Smh, what the hell, I'll send them the link XD
They're already green party types, some of them probably donated to her campaign or something
Smh, what the hell, I'll send them the link XD
They're already green party types, some of them probably donated to her campaign or something
There's ample evidence to point to voter suppression - throttled polling places, voter list purges - tilted the election, not outright fraud the polls. Seems quite misguided.
I think that's just as bad, and does constitute stealing the election, but it's not something this even seems to address.
I think that's just as bad, and does constitute stealing the election, but it's not something this even seems to address.
Smiles and Cries
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I don't see this changes anything the best most people can do is troll Trump for the next 4 years and cry
with so many people that did not vote it is not like we do not deserve what we end up with
for me this is just worth the price of the popcorn
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