John Boyega attacks Stars Wars fans for not wanting him as a hero

Doom85 said:
She was in the second Shazam, not the first. Also, Shazam 1 has a 90%/82% for critics/audience on Rotten Tomatoes, and made 360 million on a 100 million dollar budget, so I'm not seeing how that qualifies as mediocre in either regard.
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100 million isn't small fry budgeting, and that only 360 million dollars worth of demand was there with DC slapped on it is mediocre by any stretch of the imagination. Shazam/Captain Marvel used to be a pretty popular comic back in the day too.

I know she was in the sequel, I'm saying that the first movie wasn't even a huge launch pad for the second.

diffusionx said:
He's been whining about this stuff for *years*, he clearly has a massive chip on his shoulder and a problem with white people for denying him the stardom he thinks he deserves.
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Again, you're framing his statement into something he didn't say. It's ironic: He's reading into things said and insinuated to and about him and coming to the conclusion that SOME (he literally does say "some") white SW fans have a problem with him, and your response is to read into that conclude that he must have a problem with whites.

Of course you're not obligated to "play along" with anything. But don't make the same mistake you perceive him to be making.

MilkyJoe said:
If he has a pop at Disney he'll never work again, in fact I'd be amazed if he wasn't put up to this statement as damage control old for Disney race swap movies bombing one after the other
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Again, no. He's criticized Disney directly.
 
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I guess it's better than pulling another Smollett, I do wonder if this is based on how Disney marketed him in the film as Asmongold pointed out.
 
diffusionx said:
He's been whining about this stuff for *years*, he clearly has a massive chip on his shoulder and a problem with white people for denying him the stardom he thinks he deserves. Well, no, I'm not going to play along with that and neither should anyone else. There is nothing anyone can say to this guy or anybody else bought into this racial ideology that will change their mind.
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Everything you just said is wrong.... And ProtoByte ProtoByte is 100% correct
 
After the first one, I think we all thought he would be the lead, probably with Poe and maybe Rey having a Luke training in Empire and flirting with the Dark side experience.

It was the writers who utterly fucked him (and Poe in the second one) - neutering their characters and side-lining them completely for the purple haired shrew and the chubby Asian chick. I think the fans hated that as much as Boyega tbf.

Disney completely fucked that franchise up. You had the Empire - basically Nazi Germany - all white men - fighting the Rebels - a diverse bunch of decent people, and the Rebels won, with some cool battles/space dogfights thrown in. Pretty easy to understand and tapped into the culture of the late 20th Century where WW2 was still a big thing.

Now the Empire is an equal opportunities employer with a few rotten apples and half the rebels are trigger-happy nutcases or angry loners - who are you supposed to root for?! trying to get us to shed a tear for a guy who basically murdered his parents and a whole planet was a stretch too. Terrible storytelling.
 
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I've personally never once came across anyone who was opposed to him having the Force and becoming a Jedi after The Force Awakens...so its a bit odd seeing him going against Star Wars fans.
 
Boyega, before all that racist schtick buffoonery, was the most fascinating element of the new Star Wars—right up there with Adam Driver. Then they sidelined him in favour of the God Empress Rey. Most fans I knew, myself included, were squarely in his corner, eager to see the stormtrooper evolve into a Jedi and become the main hero. Instead, Disney crashed and burned the rest of the trilogy. At this point, Boyega should be directing all his anger at Kathleen and her cronies instead. It's damn incredible how scared everyone in Hollywood is of Kathleen.
 
I felt bad for the way his character was treated in TLJ, but to then take his frustrations out on the franchise in general, and label it racist into the bargain, is just a really cunty move.

Really fed up with ungrateful, entitled young actors who clearly have no idea what it means to be professional.
 
His character in the sequel Trilogy was built up to be more than it ended up being. In the first movie as the jedi until the bait and switch, and after that, Disney completely forgot how to make and write movies, so his Arc was reduced to filler sequences and unearned emotional moments with characters no one cares about.

It's a shame, I really liked Finn's character. Turns out Boyega the man is kind of a salty, misguided cunt, but eh. And LOL @ his Lando comment. Darth Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones, and he's the most iconic cinema villain bar none. But yes, some shit about cookie dough. It's like poetry.
 
TheInfamousKira said:
His character in the sequel Trilogy was built up to be more than it ended up being. In the first movie as the jedi until the bait and switch, and after that, Disney completely forgot how to make and write movies, so his Arc was reduced to filler sequences and unearned emotional moments with characters no one cares about.

It's a shame, I really liked Finn's character. Turns out Boyega the man is kind of a salty, misguided cunt, but eh. And LOL @ his Lando comment. Darth Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones, and he's the most iconic cinema villain bar none. But yes, some shit about cookie dough. It's like poetry.
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A much much better movie as someone said would have killed off Rey (or at least sidelined her until the last movie) and would have built up on Finn and centred on his hero journey, but why follow an established thousands of years old storytelling arc technique because your writers and producers have an ego problem while destroying established characters in the process? Sigh…
 
Sounds like a problem with the writers and poor story more than anything else. His story could have been interesting and his character if it played out as originally intended. Leading a Stormtrooper rebellion? reminds me somewhat of Zahn's Allegience novel.
 
Whys he got beef with the fans and not the studio/director/producer? I thought his character was great in the 1st one and i sure as shit don't remember any fan backlash against him and then he got relegated by studio/director/producer into a god awful sidekick, funnily enough his characters descent into mediocrity mirrors the series decline, when are people like John gonna get over themselves and realize that the majority of people who watch films/tv shows could give a fuck about a person's skin colour or sexuality, we just want to enjoy the show and for the best HUMAN BEING to be picked to play that character, my two recent favourite characters in TV shows have been Harold Perrineau from FROM and Sterling K. Brown from PARADISE, both incredible actors playing their respective roles perfectly and i'm 100% sure nobody even thinks about their skin colour apart from cunts like John Boyega and all the other "everything is racist" crowd
 
RJMacready73 said:
Whys he got beef with the fans and not the studio/director/producer? I thought his character was great in the 1st one and i sure as shit don't remember any fan backlash against him and then he got relegated by studio/director/producer into a god awful sidekick, funnily enough his characters descent into mediocrity mirrors the series decline, when are people like John gonna get over themselves and realize that the majority of people who watch films/tv shows could give a fuck about a person's skin colour or sexuality, we just want to enjoy the show and for the best HUMAN BEING to be picked to play that character, my two recent favourite characters in TV shows have been Harold Perrineau from FROM and Sterling K. Brown from PARADISE, both incredible actors playing their respective roles perfectly and i'm 100% sure nobody even thinks about their skin colour apart from cunts like John Boyega and all the other "everything is racist" crowd
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Reading the article he seems to have a beef with everyone. Just a sore loser his 3 SW films did zero for his career. In fact, his career has gotten worse and hasnt done anything since 2023. Guy probably got blacklisted by now so he has nothing to lose anyway.

"Lemme tell ya, 'Star Wars' always had the vibe of being in the most whitest, elite space. It's a franchise that's so white that a Black person existing in [it] was something," Boyega said in the documentary. "You can always tell it's something when some 'Star Wars' fans try to say, 'Well, we had Lando Calrissian and had Samuel L. Jackson!' It's like telling me how many cookie chips are in the cookie dough. It's like, they just scattered that in there, bro!"
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And guess what "bro"? Be lucky that general media is overrepresented in Hollywood with Black people to begin with. Too bad youre not part of it anymore Johnny B. So whatever chocolate chips are in that bowl of dough, you should be lucky the baker is putting in triple the chips as normal to begin with. And you still havent made it lately.

In the US, the Black population is about 14%. In Canada it's about 4%, and since Boyega is English, I did a google check and UK splits is also about 4%. Thats not a lot of people. But watch anything in media and it's exponentially more than than the norm.

So be grateful Hollywood doesn't ratio to demographic norms, but seems to enjoy overrepresenting certain demographics. On the other hand, there's hardly any Latinos in media compared to the big minority population in the US.
 
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If they would have made a TV series/movie back when Samuel L was young focusing on Master Windu, the fans would have loved it.

John just isn't that Black dude. Not talking about typecast either.You can have all sorts of black dudes that CAN sell a variety of roles but he's not it. Same way some white dudes can't all be Han Solo/Luke etc.

They likely considered him as a lead character and got him into readings and rehearsals and he didn't have it. I never saw him as believable. The whole thing about him feeling the force felt overacted and silly with his interpretation. He's got a good look in terms of presence and stature, he can communicate some emotion, but that's where it ends for me.

There's simply better Black actors(or any race) for that role.
 
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Have we mentioned that he should attack Kathleen Kennedy, because she insisted on the Girl boss story line, made it all about gender with the "force is female" silliness and signed off on all the scripts. She let Rian Johnson turn his character into a comedic sidekick in part 2. When he should have become the new Han. I think that is what the scene with him saving social justice girl at the end of part 2 was supposed to do. Then they just dropped him on the floor for part 3. Reflect on all the executives that let your character become lame.
 
Romulus said:
If they would have made a TV series/movie back when Samuel L was young focusing on Master Windu, the fans would have loved it.

John just isn't that Black dude. Not talking about typecast either.You can have all sorts of black dudes that CAN sell a variety of roles but he's not it. Same way some white dudes can't all be Han Solo/Luke etc.

They likely considered him as a lead character and got him into readings and rehearsals and he didn't have it. I never saw him as believable. The whole thing about him feeling the force felt overacted and silly with his interpretation. He's got a good look in terms of presence and stature, he can communicate some emotion, but that's where it ends for me.

There's simply better Black actors(or any race) for that role.
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I think one part of it is also SW is a polarizing franchise to be in when it comes to an actors career. Their SW movies might be big hits, but for whatever reason most of their other films bomb. Probably typecast. Or perhaps just only good in sci-fi movies. Aside from Harrison Ford, how many leading SW actors have had blockbuster after blockbuster film that arent SW? Mark Hamill had to focus on voice acting, Carrie Fisher didnt do much, the young guy who played in the 2000 films disappeared, Daisy Ridley's other movies all seem to bomb. John Boyega too. And most of Adam Driver's other movies also do lousy with the only one skimming his films the past 10 years that did well was House of Gucci. Most of his films only make $30M or less. Some guys like Ewan McGregor and Samuel Jackson were already established. But the newbie young leads mostly arent able to parlay SW into somethin bigger. Skimming Natalie Portman's film, most of her films dont do well either. The key outliers are any Marvel movies and a handful of $100M+ films.

They all get their chances around numerous SW movies, but pretty much none but Ford did anything big in Hollywood. I might be missing some people, but for sure the people I listed above (aside from Ford) never parlayed their career into more huge hits.
 
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Romulus said:
If they would have made a TV series/movie back when Samuel L was young focusing on Master Windu, the fans would have loved it.

John just isn't that Black dude. Not talking about typecast either.You can have all sorts of black dudes that CAN sell a variety of roles but he's not it. Same way some white dudes can't all be Han Solo/Luke etc.

They likely considered him as a lead character and got him into readings and rehearsals and he didn't have it. I never saw him as believable. The whole thing about him feeling the force felt overacted and silly with his interpretation. He's got a good look in terms of presence and stature, he can communicate some emotion, but that's where it ends for me.

There's simply better Black actors(or any race) for that role.
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Yeah he's got no charisma. Michael B Jordan would have been much better.
 
EviLore said:
Tons of Star Wars fans, myself included, wanted Finn to become a Jedi or have some sort of prominent character arc. Disney went in a different direction. This kind of toxic discourse only ends up pitting everyone against each other.
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Bingo

Most of the peoples back then I recall went "UH?" When it was confirmed that Disney didn't make him a Jedi

It's best to forget that whole trilogy. It's pure garbage.
 
Looking at this guys filmography, he didn't have a single release (movie or tv) in 2024. Seems like his career is done. Maybe this is a cry for attention. Let's see how it works out.
 
That wasn't the fans, that was Disney all along, dumbass :pie_roffles:

His character could totally be a hero, not the main one, but it's Star Wars, not every character can be the leader or it'd be a mess, but as soon as he meets palpatine's granddaughter, he becomes her lapdog and never gets to shine because strong independet woman needs to be at the center of every scene
 
Its hard to say whether he messed up getting all into protesting and saying crazy things or if the Starwars writers really did just abandoned his character half way in the trilogy.

He has this crush on Rey which went nowhere. He had rose proclaim her love to him at the end of part 2 which went no where and even seemed like it never happened. He met another ex trooper girl in 3 which went no where.
Nothing that happens to him ever matters.. he barely beat phasma and really what did she have to do with anything?
 
Is he afraid to blame the mouse, where all the blame should be going in the first place? I was down for a black MC Jedi, just like I was for a female MC jedi, but disney messed it all up.
 
It's not his fault, but the character was just bland and just seemed to be there to check an additional box. I have no problem with him as an actor, but the character was just boring.
 
CityHunter1981 said:
It's not his fault, but the character was just bland and just seemed to be there to check an additional box. I have no problem with him as an actor, but the character was just boring.
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Thats right.

And also.

Was a dumb character.

In Spanish.

El personaje de Finn es un papanatas en la franquicia de Star Wars.

Other idiot character is Poe Dameron.

And the worst villain, the antagonist in the film, is Kylo Ren's butterfly, the effeminate one...

I think Babu Frik was the best of the worst in the new film series.
 
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ProtoByte said:
100 million isn't small fry budgeting, and that only 360 million dollars worth of demand was there with DC slapped on it is mediocre by any stretch of the imagination. Shazam/Captain Marvel used to be a pretty popular comic back in the day too.
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It was DVD/Blu-Ray sales that got this movie a sequel. The movie would've done better if the Christmas themed movie came out during Christmas instead of being released between Captain Marvel and Avengers: Infinity War. Real stupid move by WB but it would seem they aren't capable of making good decisions.
 
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