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[Dr.Morris79]

Watched the interview, bloke just sounds like another cunt stuffed up his own arse that's been living in some weird vacuum

A damn shame really, Oscar Isaac and him I thought, were the best in the films

Now, whenever I'll see him next, I'll just think..

These new age actors have certainly had some form of 'Racism training', but it seems to be grabbing hold of a lot black actors that seemed like an average joe to the normal man, until they went to Hollywood.. take the UK's Lenny Henry. You'd of been hard pushed to find someone in the UK who didn't like Lenny, then he went state side and become another insufferable cunt

This wanker used to take the piss out of Chinese, now harping on about 'Woe is me, im black'

Insufferable.

But where is all this coming from these days in regards to black people? So far we've had a deluge of black is everything, black people being the first in Britain, black people being Roman in Britain, some of the most famous and rich black people in America feigning 'Woe is me, again'

There's so much of it. Are we being MK ultrad again?

Oddly enough, I caught an old JRE clip last night with Tom'O Neill in it, the weird thing? He talks about the Tate murders and Manson expecting some big 'Race' war..

No joke, this clip just randomly came up on my watch list yesterday



The way it's going, it seems to be in play, doesn't it?

Personally. I just think everyone's a cunt and I'm just sick of this nonsense. Take me back to the 90s

 

[lifa-cobex]

I remember before the force awakens that people were theorising that a storm trooper (finn) was going to be the next Jedi. aka The hero of the film.
Not about being black or white. Just a cool concept that a storm trooper would rise up from the ranks.

People of forums have been speculating about Mace Windu for about a decade now.

Another Hollywood take.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I remember before the force awakens that people were theorising that a storm trooper (finn) was going to be the next Jedi. aka The hero of the film.
Not about being black or white. Just a cool concept that a storm trooper would rise up from the ranks.

And it's so weird! This is exactly what most people who watched the films were expecting (And I personally wanted, it was an awsome concept)

It's like these people live in another reality to the one normal people have been living in for a few years now..

where is this all coming from?

 

[Trilobit]

He's got a screw loose if he thinks SW fans were racist. I followed the discourse around TFA and TLJ and I didn't see anything against him being black. It was the opposite, people didn't like that they made a mockery of his character as they(me included) were expecting Finn and Rey to become a Jedi power couple. If he wants to be angry at someone then it should be Disney/Lucasfilm. It was also Disney with their media allies who tried to shift all criticism against them as it just being manifestations of racism and misogyni. It was wild, instead of just listening to the valid criticism from the fans Disney chose to go scorched earth and accuse and attack them.

 

[JCK75]

I wanted Finn to be a hero.. it's the writers who completely wasted him.

 

[Lunarorbit]

So over these movies. Yup every star wars fan is racist.

I love that everything i grew up with is popular now and filled with assholes.

 

[Great Auk]

John Boyega, a man and his family who emigrated to a white country, became a main cast member in what is probably the most massive IP in the world, and has a net worth of 8 million dollars, or more than 99.9% of all people on Earth, is whining that he wasn't given enough based on his appearance because of a few white Star Wars fans online.

Where else on Earth except the West could this man become so succesful? I would like to know.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

So over these movies. Yup every star wars fan is racist.

I love that everything i grew up with is popular now and filled with assholes.

Pretty soon it'll just be this..

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

TBH, there was backlash against some of the non-white actors cast in SW. It may have been "small", relatively speaking, but it was there. I remember people being against Samuel L Jackson because he was a "thug" who cursed in movies and shouldn't be a Jedi because of it. Or angry at Billy Dee because he betrayed Han.

There has always been a subset of fans who either have racist things to say against casting or are just unhinged AF as if Star Wars is really real. There was, as Boyega says, backlash and a portion of it was because he's black... I provided proof earlier up-thread.

Fandom can be INSPIRING (like the disabled fan who became an engineer thanks to Scotty) but sometimes some of them are right cunts.

"There are some people who hate me" This happens to EVERYBODY in EVERY ERA of the humankind. You cannot make statements based on a fringe minority. When he says "fans" he's not talking about the 0,000001%.

And NO, there wasn't any backlash against Samuel L. Jackson, neither from "fans" or media. People who are older than 40 know this is bullshit because we lived it first hand. The general consensum was that Mace Windu and his purple lightsaber were super cool (also, purple was cool back then).

btw, in the rest of the world, the non-English speaking one, we dont give a fuck about this race obsession. This insanity needs to stop.


P.D. Most the people I know, me included, think that Mace Windu should have had a bigger role. He was also misused, but in a different way from Finn.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

John Boyega, a man and his family who emigrated to a white country, became a main cast member in what is probably the most massive IP in the world, and has a net worth of 8 million dollars, or more than 99.9% of all people on Earth, is whining that he wasn't given enough based on his appearance because of a few white Star Wars fans online.

Where else on Earth except the West could this man become so succesful? I would like to know.

This.

I'll have to repeat myself here but :
The everyday 9-5PM working man/woman shouldn't feel sorry (or care) for these privileged multimillionaires since we might as well be living in a whole different world.

Just like i don't care about nor feel sorry for Robert Deniro whenever he goes on an unhinged political rant, same thing about David Harbour, same thing about Shia Labeouf, Kanye, Britney Spears or whoever the fook with their "woe is me" rants - and it's not because "capitalism/rich people bad !" but because these people are so detached from reality due to their privilege that - again - they might as well be living in a different dimension.

All these celebs should shut the hell up and understand that their whole existence is based on entertaining us, not trying to lecture us.

 

[The Pweep]

When you agree to take the Star Wars paycheck, also be prepared for "some" of the Star wars fans to come at you. And it's not abaout skin color when it comes to that. Little Anakin Skywalker (Jake loyd?) Probably received as much hate, and venom from "some" Star wars fans than anyone. (Maybe Jar Jar got it the worst not sure) bit what I can tell you is that poor kid got PTSD from "some" Star wars fans and he is as white as a ghost.

Victim Victim. We are all victims. Blah blah. Me. Blah blah I want my money. Yadda yadda I'm a whiney, rich man baby. Blah blah I'm a cute sexy Lil whiney snow white. I'm sick of all of it.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

I really liked the character and wanted him to actually have some impact like leading some sort of stromtrooper rebellion. Instead he just stood around screaming REYYYYYY every 5 minutes. That's Disney's fault, not ours. Had no issues with the character or actor whatsoever.

 

[AJUMP23]

Society is still going through the biggest victim wins. And people are always obsessed with victim hood because then nothing is your fault or responsibility. Once you stop telling yourself you are a victim of anything you can than move past it and begin to achieve. It is not JB's fault that in the second movie Rian inserted him into a stupid class warfare story line in Star Wars. That is not why people go to Star Wars. Made his character and the girl he had that story with extremely unlikable. There are times we all feel like victims, but you can't let that consume you. You control your choices and how you respond.

 

[jason10mm]

And to think, this guy COULD have chosen to capitalize on the Star Wars fame he DOES have and be working a grass roots Finn story for a post-ROS era about him going back to that planet the black girl mentioned, freeing them from whatever Imperial relic government they suffer under, and go off to have his own adventures. NO QUESTION he couldn't parlay that into at least a comic book run, if not its own spin off cartoon or whatever because Lucas is DESPERATE for any kind of fan goodwill right now.

But does Boyega own his character and work to make it better? Nope, he just complains. Maybe he should stop being a whiney Brit and look to his cousin Canadian, Ryan Reynolds, for an example of how you can create content at a fan level and drive the conversation for yourself.

 

[Salz01]

What a dumbass. Kind of tired of this white elitist rhetoric. Being a kid in the 80's, I didn't see Lando as black or white dude. He was fucking cool. Side kick or not. I can't see anybody else other than Billy playing as him. In the recent movies Booyega arc is just fucking stupid. I can't watch the second one anymore because of his kiss scene. So fucking dumb. Disney fucked him, not the fans.

 

[Goalus]

He should be criticizing Disney and Ryan Johnson. Not the fans.

No, you got it wrong. Attacking the audience should always be the preferred means.

 

[chromhound]

Career suicide?

 

[Lt Pidgeon]

This is so boring now. In the 1970s the United States was almost 90% white.

Casting reflected that accordingly.

And stuff like this just shows them to have a chip on their shoulder.

 

[Boss Mog]

Why is he attacking fans? Did they have creative input on the movies? God forbid they should focus on the Jedi instead of a stormtrooper in a Star Wars movie . I'm sure going after the fans, and calling them racists will make you more popular with them and bolster your impressive movie career.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Star Wars has been mediocre since the prequels. The original trilogy was great, then the Phantom Menace and the prequels came out.

The franchise has been going downhill since 1999.

But I like a lot phantom. Menace

 

[newtypepilot]

the timing is so weird. Why attack fans now? Does he think the attention will get him another gig?

 

[Lionel Richie]

Tons of Star Wars fans, myself included, wanted Finn to become a Jedi or have some sort of prominent character arc. Disney went in a different direction. This kind of toxic discourse only ends up pitting everyone against each other.

Not me! I always thought Finn was a stupid fucking character from day one, the fact he as a shitty ass stormtrooper could hold his own against a Sith master (not Sith excuse me, DISNEY SITH) was the worst moment of VII. In a way, he symbolizes the downfall of SW, since they never got less stupid than that scene. So fuck Boyega, it wasn't his fault, but still fuck him.

 

[Doom85]

Not me! I always thought Finn was a stupid fucking character from day one, the fact he as a shitty ass stormtrooper could hold his own against a Sith master (not Sith excuse me, DISNEY SITH) was the worst moment of VII. In a way, he symbolizes the downfall of SW, since they never got less stupid than that scene. So fuck Boyega, it wasn't his fault, but still fuck him.

Kylo Ren was nowhere near a master, in fact at the end of VII, Snoke demands Kylo be brought before him so he can complete his training.

Also, Kylo and Snoke weren't Sith, not all Dark Side users are, one has to be trained under their specific Sith teachings to be considered one. Yes, Sidious was a clone of Palpatine, but he was unaware of the nature of his existence, and simply being a clone doesn't make one a Sith just because the original body was trained under their teachings. The fact that Snoke wanted to have Rey captured and potentially trained in the Dark Side and flat out tells Kylo this makes it clear they're not Sith, since the Rule of Two would mean Snoke just openly admitted he intends to kill Kylo (and replace him with Rey) if they were Sith, but since they're not Sith then Snoke can have as many apprentices as he desires.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Even this dumb actor should be grateful to be in a Star Wars movie... Because no one would have known him...

Besides, his character was just a nobody.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Even this dumb actor should be grateful to be in a Star Wars movie... Because no one would have known him...

Besides, his character was just a nobody.

You'd think SW would boost anyone's career. The only movies he's been in that make big ticket sales are SW films and a Pacific Rim sequel (which did worse than the first one).

Most of his movies make hardly any money whether it was before of after his first SW film.

 

[Halo is Back]

Funny, because it was Disney who made his character irrelevant and pointless by the second and third movie. This is not a good look for him.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

So he just wants this basically?

 

[DeafTourette]

So he just wants this basically?

In terms of the MCU at that point, Black Panther WAS diverse in terms of lead characters in the wider MCU ...

And no, that's not what he was arguing for (Boyega)

 

[Werewolf Jones]

In terms of the MCU at that point, Black Panther WAS diverse in terms of lead characters in the wider MCU

That's not what this video was saying at the time.

All black = hella diverse!

We're past this garbage now though.

 

[ProtoByte]

Even this dumb actor should be grateful to be in a Star Wars movie... Because no one would have known him...

Besides, his character was just a nobody.

Lmao
It's funny how offended you get by him saying this, but you feel that he shouldn't be offended by people likely getting in his DMs and calling him slurs.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Lmao
It's funny how offended you get by him saying this, but you feel that he shouldn't be offended by people likely getting in his DMs and calling him slurs.

Dude... I'm just joking.

Partly

 

[Doom85]

We're past this garbage now though.

Well, I would inform you that Ike Perlmutter, who was CEO of Marvel for a good while, made it clear he did not want a Black Panther movie made. He was also the one who pushed for Rhodey to be recast for Iron Man 2 because, according to Perlmutter, no one would notice because black people "look the same" according to Ike. I'm sure these two decisions of his had no relation whatsoever to each other.

This same dumbass was eventually exposed as the one who prevented Black Widow from getting barely any merch presence. For fucks sake, Ike, Avengers is a TEAM IP. Boys don't have such an insane level of gender preference when it comes to toys that they don't collect the whole team if they can. Anyone who bought Power Rangers toys got the whole team, girls included. Good lord, boys who loved the original Inspector Gadget cartoon back when it aired would frequently complain about how nigh impossible it was to find the Penny and Brain figure set, because, while we loved Gadget himself, we all knew those two were the real heroes of the show.

Ike was just a old out-of-touch asshole who was casually racist and believed boys would rather cut off their arms then play with an action figure that just happened to be female (likely he was projecting his own childhood views that he never matured from). Nobody shed a tear when he was removed from overseeing Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige took over who clearly respects men and women and all races/ethnicities and of course the Marvel IPs themselves.

Oh, but surely Ike must have had some respect for Marvel at least during his time there. After all, he's the one who pushed for the Inhumans to be the big thing in the MCU, and we all know how wonderful and beloved the Inhumans TV show turned out!

I'd gladly take the "hella diverse" era over that sort of bullshit.

 

[Tams]

I mean, he got himself involved in a shit project run by the 'woke' as a token character.

I'm not surprised he didn't see that coming, especially given his attitude now.

Could he have made a good protagonist for the mainline story? Probably, but Mary Sue, more wooden than a tree had to be that.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Well, I would inform you that Ike Perlmutter, who was CEO of Marvel for a good while, made it clear he did not want a Black Panther movie made. He was also the one who pushed for Rhodey to be recast for Iron Man 2 because, according to Perlmutter, no one would notice because black people "look the same" according to Ike. I'm sure these two decisions of his had no relation whatsoever to each other.

This same dumbass was eventually exposed as the one who prevented Black Widow from getting barely any merch presence. For fucks sake, Ike, Avengers is a TEAM IP. Boys don't have such an insane level of gender preference when it comes to toys that they don't collect the whole team if they can. Anyone who bought Power Rangers toys got the whole team, girls included. Good lord, boys who loved the original Inspector Gadget cartoon back when it aired would frequently complain about how nigh impossible it was to find the Penny and Brain figure set, because, while we loved Gadget himself, we all knew those two were the real heroes of the show.

Ike was just a old out-of-touch asshole who was casually racist and believed boys would rather cut off their arms then play with an action figure that just happened to be female (likely he was projecting his own childhood views that he never matured from). Nobody shed a tear when he was removed from overseeing Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige took over who clearly respects men and women and all races/ethnicities and of course the Marvel IPs themselves.

Oh, but surely Ike must have had some respect for Marvel at least during his time there. After all, he's the one who pushed for the Inhumans to be the big thing in the MCU, and we all know how wonderful and beloved the Inhumans TV show turned out!

I'd gladly take the "hella diverse" era over that sort of bullshit.

I agree with you with most of your views on Ike Perlmutter but he was right about wokeness ruining the MCU Post Phase 3. I'm happy he's out since due to his cheapness he would have made the MCU even worse. As you said look at The Inhumans and how much that sucked. They should keep the guy who played Black Bolt, he did a great job. One of my favorite parts in Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness

 

[lame gag1990]

Why is he calling Star Wars fans racists? We're not calling the shots. He should direct his anger at Kathleen Kennedy, the directors and script writers who minimized his role in the movies. And don't forget Disney's Chinese PR department who almost wiped Boyega from this poster.

Not being funny but Harrison Ford and Chewbacca are a bigger draw than this random fella. What about the white pilot? Where's he at in China?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Johnny B is just sore his movies make no money and nobody wants him.

According to wiki, last thing he did was in 2023. Aside from SW and a Pacific Rim sequel, the rest make hardly any money or he's a straight to streaming movie actor. Similar to Rachel Z, she got blessed being a noname actor but got parts in a Spielberg musical, Shazam sequel, Hunger Games and a Disney movies. How many at-bats do you need in an all star game before you hit it big? Should had catapulted both their careers. Instead, it's somehow gotten worse. Daisy Ridley is in the same boat. The star of SW movies the past 10 years and the rest of her films nobody cares about.

A classic case of the franchise being bigger than the actors.

John Boyega - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DeafTourette]

Not being funny but Harrison Ford and Chewbacca are a bigger draw than this random fella. What about the white pilot? Where's he at in China?

Oscar Isaac isn't white.

 

[lame gag1990]

Oscar Isaac isn't white.

Oops

 

[kpopSuperstar]

This.

I'll have to repeat myself here but :
The everyday 9-5PM working man/woman shouldn't feel sorry (or care) for these privileged multimillionaires since we might as well be living in a whole different world.

Just like i don't care about nor feel sorry for Robert Deniro whenever he goes on an unhinged political rant, same thing about David Harbour, same thing about Shia Labeouf, Kanye, Britney Spears or whoever the fook with their "woe is me" rants - and it's not because "capitalism/rich people bad !" but because these people are so detached from reality due to their privilege that - again - they might as well be living in a different dimension.

All these celebs should shut the hell up and understand that their whole existence is based on entertaining us, not trying to lecture us.

I want this to be true but it's not, celebs championing whatever bullshit they believe in has shown to draw in people, celebs at rallies is a big deal.

 

[diffusionx]

So, the counter argument is that he wasn't a "meanie" towards ALL SW fans (aka bad racist white dudes) but only towards SOME of them ?
The second counter argument (and strawman) would be that
its ok to be...ahem, "somewhat" racist just 'cause a person is addressing a racist issue himself ?
What, aren't people supposed to be called out on their hypocrisy (Boyega) ? Unless of course - again - people with specific skin colors are allowed a free pass ?
Now, that's what would be called a "double standard" in my book brother, not to mention, "racist" in itself - a word that some people in here like to throw around freely like it's nothing, see what I'm trying to say ?
Can you imagine if a white or "white adjacent ®" actor/person did the same thing towards a (mostly) black demographic ? Can you imagine the shit storm ? Said person would be eaten alive nowadays.

But I digress brother, see, this is why this type of hypocrisy never sat well with me, you know why ? 'cause it's all bullshit, my skin color, your skin color, the other person's skin color shouldn't fucking matter, we're all people in the end man, it's just that some people always find ways as to be at each other's throats - and the saddest thing ? You, i and others are doing the dance for these friggin' soulless multi-billion corps, be it Disney, Ubisoft, Marvel or whatever the heck and I gotta ask, why ?

People fighting over a Ubisoft slop game over pages upon pages 'cause there's a person of color in it, people fighting and keep insinuating things over what an actor in a...Disney owned franchise said, people fighting over...you get the idea man, it's ALWAYS the same shit and people for some reason keep dancing around this orchestrated bullshit.
This is why I told you the other day in another thread to take it easy and not to take things personal while throwing the (unfortunately) usual racism insinuations freely, not only it is not polite, not only it is cowardly but I think that in the year of our lord 2025 it has ran its course - obviously, I'm not saying that racism is not an existing fact and/or a reality, what I'm saying is people should stop cheering and going at each other's throats constantly.

I know I said earlier that all celebs are insufferable twats, but, Morgan Freeman said something in an interview that I happen to agree with : "the best way to fight racism is to quit talking about it".

You, or whoever else that like spamming laughing emojis and throwing accusations around freely ('cause this is a repeated thing some of you are doing) insinuating that whoever doesn't line with your opinion is a racist is, well, a bad and disgusting thing to do, you're not gonna hold nor win an argument doing that, you're not gonna savor some kind of "online win" sticking it to the bad men®.
Again, for both your and our mental health, try not to take everything personally and getting offended by literal bullshit, don't fight over Ubisoft bullshit, don't get worked over Disney bullshit, don't try to take sides over what a stooge that got payed millions of dollars for starring in a make believe Sci-fi bullshit fairytale said or says, we, the "low caste" are living in a different whole universe than the Boyegas and Guillemots of the world.

The reason I'm writing this whole thesis is 'cause I'm trying to connect with another guy and pick his brain (you in this case) 'cause, see, the internet has unfortunately made us believe that the other person on the other side of the screen is a soulless entity (which is factually untrue), hence why 99% of the users both in here and on the internet generally speaking are always snarky, rude, are always at the ready to throw accusations and regaling others with...creative epithets and/or using those emojis as a form of "punishment".

Like I told you the other day, let's just all try to be...somewhat better, this bullshit "racist this" and "racist that" though has to stop.

Cheers

too many words to skate around the obvious.

Yes there are different standards for people of different skin colors. Nowadays, black is good and white is bad. We saw this most clearly in 2020, but it's still true today. This is why "BUT WHAT IF THE RACES WERE REVERSED" isn't an effective argument and never will be. They want to force you to label yourself as a white guy so they can then destroy you, because white people are bad. I can pull up dozens if not hundreds of articles from prominent media, universities, etc. that say exactly this. You may want to stop talking about race and Morgan Freeman might want to stop talking about race, but they don't want to stop talking about race, so they will keep talking about it. They're always going to call white people racist, especially when white people recoil and acquiesce as soon as they get called that. So, all this discussion needs to be taken with this in mind.

One of the answers to this is to say "John Boyega is a cunt and I dont want to see his ass in my movies, he can call that racist but I dont care. I dont accept this label from someone who hates me for no reason."

 

[Great Auk]

Oscar Isaac isn't white.

Hispanic isn't a race.

There are tens of millions of people in Latin America, especially South America that are just straight up descendants of European immigrants.

My Peruvian brother in law confirms this

 

[DeafTourette]

Hispanic isn't a race.

There are tens of millions of people in Latin America, especially South America that are just straight up descendants of European immigrants.

My Peruvian brother in law confirms this

I know. And millions of African descendants of slaves. I'm saying that he SPECIFICALLY isn't white. By his own admission he's mixed.

 

[Madflavor]

It will always be funny to me how over the moon happy and enthusiastic Daisy Ridley, John Boyega and Oscar Isaac looked during the marketing for The Force Awakens, only for their enthusiasm and excitement to be so obviously and visibly drained from them during TRoS.

I also want to give credit to JJ Abram's to talk about how Star Wars was too white during the production of TFA, only to make the Black guy a red herring protagonist. Performative class act that guy is.

 

[BennyBlanco]

He stinks as an actor. What has he done since these terrible star wars movies?

 

[ProtoByte]

One of the answers to this is to say "John Boyega is a cunt and I dont want to see his ass in my movies, he can call that racist but I dont care. I dont accept this label from someone who hates me for no reason."

That's a ridiculous overreaction that's just widening the divide. I don't think John Boyega hates whites or is saying this for literally "no reason". You can think his reasons are illegitimate, but I find that a tough sell when people in this thread refer to statistics and aspersions about audience demographics to justify the point.

I don't think that the demographics of Star Wars characters is out of malice. I don't really care about it. But when you're an actor who did get screwed by the writers and execs, and there are a subset of fans who act with malice towards you, I don't think speaking out against that is equivalent to "he hates whites".

You're conflating a lot of things and institutions with him, and as easy as you throw his words in the trash, he could throw you in with the comments under this video, which I'm sure this thread would be surprised by:



If the message or sentiment put forward "Look at these 2 black dudes across franchise history" and/or "he should be grateful and shut up" there's never going to be an end to this crap. Yes, it's a broad brush to paint when a single digit percentage (if that) of trolls and racists get up in his DMs, send hate mail, or whatever. But, no one has or will ever say that Adam Driver or even (at least, it's unlikely) Daisy Ridley that they have to "be grateful" for their roles in Star Wars. And Driver has expressed dissatisfaction with the franchise, his role, and even sneak-dissed the fans.

Similar to Rachel Z, she got blessed being a noname actor but got parts in a Spielberg musical, Shazam sequel, Hunger Games and a Disney movies. How many at-bats do you need in an all star game before you hit it big? Should had catapulted both their careers. Instead, it's somehow gotten worse. Daisy Ridley is in the same boat. The star of SW movies the past 10 years and the rest of her films nobody cares about.

Well for one, Ziegler's had more swings at the bat than both of them in totality. But ultimately, who is having genuine career boosts sufficient to raise them to the A-list equivalent to the 80s or 90s today? It seems that actors might find one or 2 roles that define their careers entirely, and everything else they do is small fry. Frankly, none of the movies we're talking about do significant business or are even that good. The first Shazam was a mediocre film that did mediocre business thrown in the middle of a DC identity crisis. Hunger Games is a zombie franchise if I've ever seen one. Musicals don't sell tickets. The long term prospects of anyone in these remakes of well-trodden Disney classics hasn't been boosted, even when they've done well. Does anyone even remember Guy Ritchie's Aladdin, let alone the actors in it besides Will Smith? All of the recent roles I can think of that have given actors not named Chalamet a boost are on streaming services. Joseph Quinn made a name for himself on Stranger Things. Pedro Pascal with the Mandalorian. Etc

There's a broader problem with Hollywood and entertainment right now that's fascinating to examine.

 

[Kenpachii]

I don't get it, he must have read the script before accepting the role right? why is he complaining.

 

[diffusionx]

That's a ridiculous overreaction that's just widening the divide. I don't think John Boyega hates whites or is saying this for literally "no reason". You can think his reasons are illegitimate, but I find that a tough sell when people in this thread refer to statistics and aspersions about audience demographics to justify the point.

I don't think that the demographics of Star Wars characters is out of malice. I don't really care about it. But when you're an actor who did get screwed by the writers and execs, and there are a subset of fans who act with malice towards you, I don't think speaking out against that is equivalent to "he hates whites".

You're conflating a lot of things and institutions with him, and as easy as you throw his words in the trash, he could throw you in with the comments under this video, which I'm sure this thread would be surprised by:

He's been whining about this stuff for *years*, he clearly has a massive chip on his shoulder and a problem with white people for denying him the stardom he thinks he deserves. Well, no, I'm not going to play along with that and neither should anyone else. There is nothing anyone can say to this guy or anybody else bought into this racial ideology that will change their mind.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

He's been whining about this stuff for *years*, he clearly has a massive chip on his shoulder and a problem with white people for denying him the stardom he thinks he deserves. Well, no, I'm not going to play along with that and neither should anyone else. There is nothing anyone can say to this guy or anybody else bought into this racial ideology that will change their mind.

Not surprised if he's been whining for years. The last role he's had in media according to wiki is in 2023. Assuming his profile is accurately updated, somehow the guy has done nothing in 18 or so months minimum. If he (and Daisy Ridley too) cant take advantage of being in 3 SW movies helping them become stars nothing will. Aside from being in SW and Pacific Rim franchises, his other movies make such little money I dont see how any film studio would even offer the guy a couple hundred thousand salary tops. One of his movies made $14,000 at the box office. And many more just a few million. Any movie he's been in where he's the main lead character makes bad money. Daisy Ridley might be in the similar boat where if it's not SW, the movie tanks. But not sure since I didnt skim all her film credits.

When things dont go well, bring out the race card as a last gasp too.

 

[Doom85]

The first Shazam was a mediocre film that did mediocre business thrown in the middle of a DC identity crisis.

She was in the second Shazam, not the first. Also, Shazam 1 has a 90%/82% for critics/audience on Rotten Tomatoes, and made 360 million on a 100 million dollar budget, so I'm not seeing how that qualifies as mediocre in either regard.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I'm not hwite but I don't agree with him. He should be mad @ Disney but instead he punches down at the fans. It really doesn't matter SW died with TFA for me I didn't bother with the other 2 shitquels.

If he has a pop at Disney he'll never work again, in fact I'd be amazed if he wasn't put up to this statement as damage control old for Disney race swap movies bombing one after the other