in all fairness, I think Tucker Carlson and Bob Novak weren't really like this before, I used to love Crossfire and the shows they were on, but when Begala and Carville came in, it became a clash of the talking points and party-line cliches...
Novak and Carlson, separate from their Crossfire duties, have also been excellent journalists, and I'd say the same thing about liberals like Bill Press and Al Hunt, journalists there to talk about issues...
Begala and Carville are Clinton-era Democratic advisors that are party-line defenders, while the conservatives on the show (especially Bob Novak), are more conservative than they are Republicans. I'd argue that Begala and Carville are more Democrat than they are "liberals".
Novak has called Bush's administration and campaign "stupid", etc...
I can't stand to watch the show now cause it's so predictable, but mostly it's because the liberals on the show are a real turnoff, even though I think I agree with them on most social issues...
On the other hand, I love shows like Capital Gang and other discussion shows on PBS/C-Span that have liberals/Democrats on where it's actual discussion, but Crossfire became a joke the minute they decided to bring it political operatives and took away the journalists...
