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Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard Defamation trial live

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
So... so far she's lied - and been 100% proven to have lied - about playing guitar, donating the UK money, not doing cocaine. What else has she lied about which has been proven as lie in court? (The guitar thing is outside of the court, it is just too easy.)
About getting her ass kicked by him with her movie makeup shot. Shiny and all.
 
One thing that i don't understand, why she doesn't risk anything when lying under oath??

I mean, if the trial goes depp's way doesn't mean that she lied her ass out for all this time? And how is that ok for the law?

She ruined a life and career and she only risk to lose some money? No jail time for this bitch?
From my understanding, perjury is a very difficult standard to prove in cases like this. Like......impossible.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
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The odds are still against Johnny. If even 1 juror sides with Amber she wins.

But as for public opinion it's a gigantic landslide in his favor. So maybe he can consider it a win for himself already.
Doesn't help in today's woke Hollywood to get a gig though. If he doesn't win this I don't see many/if any jobs going to him. Sure people are on his side but Hollywood money talks and they trip over each other to be woker than the next person.
 

jonnyp

Member
I’m trying to understand, Kate Moss did came out saying this didn’t happen at the time. Either Amber didn’t see the retraction or she flat out lied to embellish the story.

So, can Amber Heard’s domestic abuse arrest be brought into court now? Since she talked about Johnny’s history.

This is what I thought. She brought in Kate Moss, so JD's team must now be allowed to bring in her DV arrest.
 

vpance

Member
Doesn't help in today's woke Hollywood to get a gig though. If he doesn't win this I don't see many/if any jobs going to him. Sure people are on his side but Hollywood money talks and they trip over each other to be woker than the next person.

Woke Hollywood is only afraid of offending blue haired blue checkmarks now, but I don't think even they are siding with Amber. They would be stupid not to cast him after this.

Studio execs still love money, and seeing all this positive support of Depp would only make his first big return to acting print $$$ at the box office.
 

zkorejo

Member
People are in support for Johny. He has already won as far as I can see. One naive jury member can easily be manipulated by her shit acting and it won't change the public opinion of him now. People will shit on the jury if something like that happens.

As far as JD getting big roles is concerned. I think he will. The public opinion is all that matters. That's the reason why he was abandoned in the first place.
 

hemo memo

You can't die before your death
That Australia story she's telling.....just wow. I mean if a member of the jury is actually believing this nonsensical telling then their problems goes beyond just a fair judgment.
 

hemo memo

You can't die before your death
Glad there is a full week for Johnny team to prepare. As for her team they are fucked as they need months to cover her fuckups in this testimony. Curry diagnose was spot on. I am just surprise how she could get away with all those lies under oath.
 
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LordCBH

Member
Glad there is a full week for Johnny team to prepare. As for her team they are fucked as they need months to cover her fuckups in this testimony. Curry diagnose was spot on. I am just surprise how she could get away with all those lies under oath.

Oh she won’t get away with them. She’s going to get absolutely railed on cross.
 

hemo memo

You can't die before your death
So in Australia he throws her across the room and she lands on the games table then he gets in top of her on the games table then whack her in the face repetitively then they struggle in the games table then they get up and argue then he goes to the bar and grabs a bottle and say try to stop me... fucking what!!!!!
 

Nico_D

Member
Oh she won’t get away with them. She’s going to get absolutely railed on cross.
Should be easy. She talked so much (too much which makes her a bad liar) of which a lot seemed improvised. She shouldn't be able to remember everything. Contradictions ahoy!
 

Pejo

Gold Member


Not coke but something to make her cry I wonder?

That woman has taken a bump or two in her life, and I ain't talking about punches from Depp. But yea I'd guess it was something to produce tears. Incredible that she thought she'd sneak it past while millions of people with nothing better to do are watching this.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
That woman has taken a bump or two in her life, and I ain't talking about punches from Depp. But yea I'd guess it was something to produce tears. Incredible that she thought she'd sneak it past while millions of people with nothing better to do are watching this.
It doesn't matter what we see, it matters what the Jury sees, then again, I don't believe they are sequestered.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member


She's a complete psycho. I'm worried for Johnny's safety.

The 9 symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder​

  1. Fear of abandonment. People with BPD are often terrified of being abandoned or left alone. Even something as innocuous as a loved one arriving home late from work or going away for the weekend may trigger intense fear. This can prompt frantic efforts to keep the other person close. You may beg, cling, start fights, track your loved one’s movements, or even physically block the person from leaving. Unfortunately, this behavior tends to have the opposite effect—driving others away.
  2. Unstable relationships. People with BPD tend to have relationships that are intense and short-lived. You may fall in love quickly, believing that each new person is the one who will make you feel whole, only to be quickly disappointed. Your relationships either seem perfect or horrible, without any middle ground. Your lovers, friends, or family members may feel like they have emotional whiplash as a result of your rapid swings from idealization to devaluation, anger, and hate.
  3. Unclear or shifting self-image. When you have BPD, your sense of self is typically unstable. Sometimes you may feel good about yourself, but other times you hate yourself, or even view yourself as evil. You probably don’t have a clear idea of who you are or what you want in life. As a result, you may frequently change jobs, friends, lovers, religion, values, goals, or even sexual identity.
  4. Impulsive, self-destructive behaviors. If you have BPD, you may engage in harmful, sensation-seeking behaviors, especially when you’re upset. You may impulsively spend money you can’t afford, binge eat, drive recklessly, shoplift, engage in risky sex, or overdo it with drugs or alcohol. These risky behaviors may help you feel better in the moment, but they hurt you and those around you over the long-term.
  5. Self-harm. Suicidal behavior and deliberate self-harm is common in people with BPD. Suicidal behavior includes thinking about suicide, making suicidal gestures or threats, or actually carrying out a suicide attempt. Self-harm encompasses all other attempts to hurt yourself without suicidal intent. Common forms of self-harm include cutting and burning.
  6. Extreme emotional swings. Unstable emotions and moods are common with BPD. One moment, you may feel happy, and the next, despondent. Little things that other people brush off can send you into an emotional tailspin. These mood swings are intense, but they tend to pass fairly quickly (unlike the emotional swings of depression or bipolar disorder), usually lasting just a few minutes or hours.
  7. Chronic feelings of emptiness. People with BPD often talk about feeling empty, as if there’s a hole or a void inside them. At the extreme, you may feel as if you’re “nothing” or “nobody.” This feeling is uncomfortable, so you may try to fill the void with things like drugs, food, or sex. But nothing feels truly satisfying.
  8. Explosive anger. If you have BPD, you may struggle with intense anger and a short temper. You may also have trouble controlling yourself once the fuse is lit—yelling, throwing things, or becoming completely consumed by rage. It’s important to note that this anger isn’t always directed outwards. You may spend a lot of time feeling angry at yourself.
  9. Feeling suspicious or out of touch with reality. People with BPD often struggle with paranoia or suspicious thoughts about others’ motives. When under stress, you may even lose touch with reality—an experience known as dissociation. You may feel foggy, spaced out, or as if you’re outside your own body.
 

Patrick S.

Banned

The 9 symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder​

  1. Fear of abandonment. People with BPD are often terrified of being abandoned or left alone. Even something as innocuous as a loved one arriving home late from work or going away for the weekend may trigger intense fear. This can prompt frantic efforts to keep the other person close. You may beg, cling, start fights, track your loved one’s movements, or even physically block the person from leaving. Unfortunately, this behavior tends to have the opposite effect—driving others away.
  2. Unstable relationships. People with BPD tend to have relationships that are intense and short-lived. You may fall in love quickly, believing that each new person is the one who will make you feel whole, only to be quickly disappointed. Your relationships either seem perfect or horrible, without any middle ground. Your lovers, friends, or family members may feel like they have emotional whiplash as a result of your rapid swings from idealization to devaluation, anger, and hate.
  3. Unclear or shifting self-image. When you have BPD, your sense of self is typically unstable. Sometimes you may feel good about yourself, but other times you hate yourself, or even view yourself as evil. You probably don’t have a clear idea of who you are or what you want in life. As a result, you may frequently change jobs, friends, lovers, religion, values, goals, or even sexual identity.
  4. Impulsive, self-destructive behaviors. If you have BPD, you may engage in harmful, sensation-seeking behaviors, especially when you’re upset. You may impulsively spend money you can’t afford, binge eat, drive recklessly, shoplift, engage in risky sex, or overdo it with drugs or alcohol. These risky behaviors may help you feel better in the moment, but they hurt you and those around you over the long-term.
  5. Self-harm. Suicidal behavior and deliberate self-harm is common in people with BPD. Suicidal behavior includes thinking about suicide, making suicidal gestures or threats, or actually carrying out a suicide attempt. Self-harm encompasses all other attempts to hurt yourself without suicidal intent. Common forms of self-harm include cutting and burning.
  6. Extreme emotional swings. Unstable emotions and moods are common with BPD. One moment, you may feel happy, and the next, despondent. Little things that other people brush off can send you into an emotional tailspin. These mood swings are intense, but they tend to pass fairly quickly (unlike the emotional swings of depression or bipolar disorder), usually lasting just a few minutes or hours.
  7. Chronic feelings of emptiness. People with BPD often talk about feeling empty, as if there’s a hole or a void inside them. At the extreme, you may feel as if you’re “nothing” or “nobody.” This feeling is uncomfortable, so you may try to fill the void with things like drugs, food, or sex. But nothing feels truly satisfying.
  8. Explosive anger. If you have BPD, you may struggle with intense anger and a short temper. You may also have trouble controlling yourself once the fuse is lit—yelling, throwing things, or becoming completely consumed by rage. It’s important to note that this anger isn’t always directed outwards. You may spend a lot of time feeling angry at yourself.
  9. Feeling suspicious or out of touch with reality. People with BPD often struggle with paranoia or suspicious thoughts about others’ motives. When under stress, you may even lose touch with reality—an experience known as dissociation. You may feel foggy, spaced out, or as if you’re outside your own body.
I... think I need to go speak to a doctor.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I... think I need to go speak to a doctor.
Always a good plan. Self-diagnosis is difficult and unreliable, especially when you're not feeling well. A psych professional will be able to evaluate you properly. Whatever it is, therapy and medication can often help a lot. Good luck.
 

hemo memo

You can't die before your death




This is fucking surreal.

I mean that is comical at this point. A jury must have an IQ of below 70 to believe this ridiculous of the top story.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
Always a good plan. Self-diagnosis is difficult and unreliable, especially when you're not feeling well. A psych professional will be able to evaluate you properly. Whatever it is, therapy and medication can often help a lot. Good luck.
Thanks man. I had never thought about Borderline, and to be honest, I didn't really know what it meant. And then I start to read the list of symptoms you posted and think to myself "wait a minute..."

I was just reading about it some more, and I saw a list of symptoms in a German article where it says patients have to meet five out of nine criteria to be diagnosed with borderline, and, I guess, with some soul searching, I could say all nine of them do apply.

I'll try not to think about it too much, to be honest, because right now I don't want to deal with something like this.
 

Kagoshima_Luke

Gold Member
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but there was a NY Post article run after her first day on the stand, and they actually photoshopped a tear on her cheek, as if the whole thing wasn't recorded and people weren't flooding Twitter with comments that she very clearly never shed a tear. NY Post then ran another article with a really weird pic of Johnny, obviously trying to make him appear creepy and treating her as the victim. There's some connection between her HR firm and the NY Post, and probably a ton of other media outlets out there. Pretty disturbing.
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but there was a NY Post article run after her first day on the stand, and they actually photoshopped a tear on her cheek, as if the whole thing wasn't recorded and people weren't flooding Twitter with comments that she very clearly never shed a tear. NY Post then ran another article with a really weird pic of Johnny, obviously trying to make him appear creepy and treating her as the victim. There's some connection between her HR firm and the NY Post, and probably a ton of other media outlets out there. Pretty disturbing.
It's truly creepy, beyond even the scope of the trial. How quickly the narratives can shift based on who is paying.

We all have to be vigilant about where our information comes from.
 

Dis

Member
Damn that's crazy. Hope Depp's team uses this.

Here is the full audio


AH says: “Did i.. do this to the whole floor?”

freaking crazy

Jerry at one point says

“She knows EXACTLY what she’s doing” “She’s no fool”


You know what the most insane part is?

They CANT use this in court. Because they need Jerry’s consent and he is passed away.

Jerry literally calls her out on her bs.

This is incredible

To think that for a moment i wanted to stay objective (only heard AH’s testimony. I started watching late) (The whore is lying so blatantly)

The pictures of blood on the floor is Johnny’s blood!! Because she wounded him!!!!

They use the pics of his blood to make it seem like its hers!! Pure pure evil.

She admits to using xtc!

She tries to come off as an angel. She’s possesed.
 
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NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
Is there any examples of jury instructions for defamation cases? I'm worried Johnny's going to lose based on legals standards
 

Putonahappyface

Gold Member
Thanks man. I had never thought about Borderline, and to be honest, I didn't really know what it meant. And then I start to read the list of symptoms you posted and think to myself "wait a minute..."

I was just reading about it some more, and I saw a list of symptoms in a German article where it says patients have to meet five out of nine criteria to be diagnosed with borderline, and, I guess, with some soul searching, I could say all nine of them do apply.

I'll try not to think about it too much, to be honest, because right now I don't want to deal with something like this.
I was diagnosed with E.U.P.D some time ago amongst other things. It's nothing to be ashamed of, you just have to grab the bull by the horns so to speak and learn to control it the best way you can. Medication didn't and doesn't help me in fact made my symptoms worse and therapy has always been hit and miss, but I've also met those who have had great success with therapy and medication.
 

Bartski

Gold Member
Managed to watch most of her testimony, as well as a lot of the earlier stuff I missed, trying to stay open-minded and giving her the benefit of the doubt.

If we establish she's got a serious Cluster B disorder mix from hell... let's just assume she was lying for 2 days and there was no physical violence directed at her from Depp, and the truth is in line with Depp's testimony and his witnesses.

If so, we might just as well assume (which was clear to me already watching Depp on the stand) that he's a total coke head and an alcoholic with a stint/binge-and-break style of getting shitfaced on various configurations of uppers and downers. This is something he never explicitly denied during his testimony, and neither did anyone from his team. Except admitting to opiate meds addiction - sure, that one is physical and it's immediately life-threatening, basically the absolute rock bottom... but then downplaying everything else just as an addict with a bunch of enablers would, at times turning it all into a joke.

I cringed so hard at the "Isn't happy hour anytime?" ...bro if you flush down coke lines with whiskey for breakfast on a workday, I'm not sure what other clues about having an issue you need.
This is neither sophisticated nor original, turning the chaos into comedy, a very common strat for high functioning addicts which he most definitely had been most of his career.

Then comes the spiciest bit, which can also be all made up by Heard, but again - correct me if I'm wrong - it was never unpacked and denied by Depp earlier tho I remember this subject being brought up by the defense:

According to her testimony, he's got a clear-cut case of Othello Syndrome, or another similar form of hardcore obsessive / delusional jealousy.

As bad as it can be as a disorder alone, guess what amplifies such disorders tenfold, triggering people to act out on them, often violently?

Being constantly paranoid or/and semi-psychotic high as fuck on coke. Let alone coke and alcohol in huge doses going on for days.

I'll be shocked to see the defense not connecting those dots at some point calling in their own addiction expert. If they succeed in playing the memory lapsus (aka blackout) card and somehow show evidence he was capable of beating her without even a shred of memory of it due to chronic alcohol and drug abuse (totally possible for people with deep hidden violent tendencies, even tho, for now, it would seem he has none of) this might work well in her favor.

If they prove she faked a single beating - she's screwed.

My theory, for now, is there was a lot of abuse on both ends, both very different flavors and way worse directed at Depp. That is if we assume all the beatings and rapes she described during the last to hearings were all made up.
Depp carving space to get messed up, while throwing indirectly violent fits about her "cheating", in return getting the whole catalog of what an untreated BPD is capable of.

What a mess. Can't wait for cross-examination, trying to make her show she was lying on the stand. I have a feeling they might.
 
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