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Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard Defamation trial live

DJ12

Member
Oh yeah. He's whiter than white, and she's a monster :pie_eyeroll:

I see this has become yet another topic where there can only ever be two completely black and white sides, where one person is the hero and the other is the villain.

She's clearly a mentalist, but he's a fucking dickhead too. It's hilarious how people can even jump into their silos with shit like this.
Guess you're another casual commentator that hasn't bothered to review any of the evidence.

Depp being a dickhead, if that's what you believe, has nothing to do with him being an abuser or anything to do with this case.

Being a dickhead is far worse than being someone who falsely claimed they were abused to destroy someone's career?

Obviously, your fucked up mileage may vary.
 
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nkarafo

Member
What's next for Johnny?

Can he go after the publications that dragged him through the dirt? Can he go after Disney and WB?
 

MayauMiao

Member
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12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
I'm a bit late to the party, but the dialogue over at resetera seems pretty healthy for once.. lot of folks coming to the realization that socalled progressive media suffers from the same biases and ideological heel digging that they love to criticize from the right. it's quite refreshing :messenger_smiling:
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Oh yeah. He's whiter than white, and she's a monster :pie_eyeroll:

I see this has become yet another topic where there can only ever be two completely black and white sides, where one person is the hero and the other is the villain.

She's clearly a mentalist, but he's a fucking dickhead too. It's hilarious how people can even jump into their silos with shit like this.
Why is he a “dickhead”?

From what I gather, the poor guy was taken advantage of by many in his career due to his caring and giving nature.

Or is this one of those talking points to once again, lessen the abuse the man has gone through at the hands of an abusive woman.
 

Salz01

Member
What's next for Johnny?

Can he go after the publications that dragged him through the dirt? Can he go after Disney and WB?
Depends how much more he wants to spend. Personally I think he got what he wanted. I just hope, that he doesn’t cater back to Disney and make a movie with them. I know he said he wouldn’t, but I hope he sticks to his guns on it.
 

Jaybe

Member
I'm a bit late to the party, but the dialogue over at resetera seems pretty healthy for once.. lot of folks coming to the realization that socalled progressive media suffers from the same biases and ideological heel digging that they love to criticize from the right. it's quite refreshing :messenger_smiling:
Yep. I had to look after if was referenced here and was shocked. They want to cancel Grubb to since he was on the side of people wanting to silence Johnny with some abhorrent takes.
 

Mistake

Member
I'm a bit late to the party, but the dialogue over at resetera seems pretty healthy for once.. lot of folks coming to the realization that socalled progressive media suffers from the same biases and ideological heel digging that they love to criticize from the right. it's quite refreshing :messenger_smiling:
Well if they keep banning people over every high profile court case, they’re not going to have anyone left. It’s fine to discuss what we think about these things, but that’s exactly it, a discussion. Once the jury decides, we have to accept the outcome.

If even one person there swallows the “I’m constantly being lied to and need to research myself” pill, then good for them
 

Jaybe

Member
I find it interesting how two large news organizations choose to spin this. You’ve got the NYT calling out correctly the main takeaway from yesterday then the WaPo source of the op-Ed at the centre of the trail, deflecting (maybe UK had it right? Or at least reminding everyone), and that, by the headline. It was an equal and split decision. Thank fuck social media helped amplify what was really going on at the trial.

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Trunx81

Member
My biggest fear right now is that one of the lawyers has some daughters and they’ll start a reality soap in a few years …
 
I see this has become yet another topic where there can only ever be two completely black and white sides, where one person is the hero and the other is the villain.
I don't think this is fair. This isn't a topic where people just read the headlines and took sides (certainly some did that). Millions of people watched the entire trial and looked at all the evidence. I personally watched every testimony twice and subscribed to LawTubers for the legal jargon I didn't understand. Both sides have been weighed and measured, and one is right while the other is wrong - period.

I don't know Depp or idolize him, but his abusive narcissistic ex just used his worst texts, recorded conversations and photos against him in a public forum for 6 weeks. He was grilled by $6 million lawyers specifically intending to make him look bad. They brought up shit in his life that happened 30 years ago. At the end of it all, he looks no worse than a weird, flawed person - something most people can relate.
 

HAYA8U5A

Member
Why is he a “dickhead”?

From what I gather, the poor guy was taken advantage of by many in his career due to his caring and giving nature.

Or is this one of those talking points to once again, lessen the abuse the man has gone through at the hands of an abusive woman.

Nah he must be a dickhead because of how he would constantly go out of his way to visit Children's Hospitals and places as Jack Sparrow to try to help cheer up sick kids.

This isn't that other shithole so I don't need the /s right? :messenger_winking_tongue:
 

Nico_D

Member
Yeah I watched almost everything after week 1 or 2. I like Johnny but generally I'm not into fan culture at all. They are people like everybody else and what they do is their work, nothing else even if it may seem glamorous to some.

Just based on evidence, Amber was the villain here. Johnny may not be perfect but who is? Coming from abusive home it is maybe not so surprising either. Tho not all of us do drugs and alcohol the same way as him but we all have our weak spots.
 

Woggleman

Member
I'm a bit late to the party, but the dialogue over at resetera seems pretty healthy for once.. lot of folks coming to the realization that socalled progressive media suffers from the same biases and ideological heel digging that they love to criticize from the right. it's quite refreshing :messenger_smiling:
I think a lot of progressive men are realizing just how much some of these modern feminists hate them. That being said let's not stoop to their level and start hating all women. Depp has many female supporters.
 

Nico_D

Member


Honestly, I was sure that at the end Amber's team was just playing along and doing what must be done professionally but didn't believe a word of it.

Elaine proved me wrong.

Jury demonizing Amber? We were all watching it! We saw the fake cries and grins and all the times she actually was caught lying. She did the demonizing all on her own.

And so much evidence left out? Sure. I see how they tried making it up by admitting two photographs twice.

I didn't like Elaine but I could've understood her stance from ethical standing point. But now? Nah.
 

killatopak

Member
Honestly, I was sure that at the end Amber's team was just playing along and doing what must be done professionally but didn't believe a word of it.

Elaine proved me wrong.

Jury demonizing Amber? We were all watching it! We saw the fake cries and grins and all the times she actually was caught lying. She did the demonizing all on her own.

And so much evidence left out? Sure. I see how they tried making it up by admitting two photographs twice.

I didn't like Elaine but I could've understood her stance from ethical standing point. But now? Nah.
Their career is at stake here so I guess they’re leaving themselves a way out from their incompetencies.

They’re making themselves look handicapped so you’ll second guess their performance in the trial.
 

Nico_D

Member
Their career is at stake here so I guess they’re leaving themselves a way out from their incompetencies.

They’re making themselves look handicapped so you’ll second guess their performance in the trial.

I don't think that is the way to salvage their careers tho. Elaine could've brought a shovel to the studio. Blaming the jury, blaming Johnny's lawyers... She didn't make any mistakes? Didn't feel very analytical for someone at that position.
 

killatopak

Member
I don't think that is the way to salvage their careers tho. Elaine could've brought a shovel to the studio. Blaming the jury, blaming Johnny's lawyers... She didn't make any mistakes? Didn't feel very analytical for someone at that position.
I agree.

It’s really hard to speculate what their exact goal is at this point and I don’t really bother myself too much about it unless they really go for an appeal.

One thing I do know is that there are still a lot of people who are in the Amber Heard camp and they eat these up.
 
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt

Biggest Trails Stan
I agree.

It’s really hard to speculate what their exact goal is at this point and I don’t really bother myself too much about it unless they really go for an appeal.

One thing I do know is that there are still a lot of people who are in the Amber Heard camp and they eat these up.

You mean feminist, radfems and TERF. They are gonna to realize that everyone hates them especially females. The blowback to their bullshit is gonna be glorious to watch
 

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt

Biggest Trails Stan
They might be the loudest voices but are not the majority.

Yeah but that's my point. They think they are the majority but they are not. I think as the deserved backlash against #metoo, ACLU and any type of feminist/feminism starts and won't let up, they will realize alot of their bullshit. But knowing them they will just double down

They might realize it but they'll never admit it.

Yeah I agree. It's funny how misandry is considered to be perfectly fine and not dangerous at all. But that whole abuse allegation almost ended up getting Depp career totally finished. After he won I'm seeing all these feminazis getting triggered and even though I'm not surprised. I'm wondering did you even watch the trial? It's like they are blinded by their hatred of men which I think is totally unreasonable and unjustified

I'm not the biggest Depp fan acting wise. I think he has some great roles, some good roles and some bad roles. He's a decent actor but no Daniel Day Lewis.
 

Woggleman

Member
The ironic thing is that if they want metoo to have legitimacy they should side with Depp. It would show that it is about truly standing with victims instead of being a hate filled vendetta against men. Do they not see they are the architects of their own demise? It did put some genuine monsters away like Harvey Weinstein and R Kelly and Jeffrey Epstein is taking a well deserved dirt nap but when then they let these misandrists use it treat all men as born guilty that is what hurts the movement.
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Another loser…


I am glad this person outed themselves as someone with no job if blocking random people from Twitter makes you complain about having a long day up ahead.

This is when you go too woke on life.
You got to be a special kind of idiot to ignore all the evidence and still be supporting this lying bitch.

This is the woman that takes pictures of everything, yet there's not a single one of any abuse, not even taken by her friends. Not fucking one. It's the first thing they would've done. A bed they just broke with a knife, sure, turds face with ring marks from being punched? Nah. It just doesn't tally with the idea she was abused. Even without the mountain of evidence Depp has.

I hope Whitney wises up and stops accepting beatings from this bitch too.
No abuser would be so deadeyed let alone do all these things consistently in a meticulous matter to prove she got abused.

Ofcourse i can't say that because i am a white man.

And that there is the problem. People like Amber are obsessed with the idea that women are always right even when a legal body literally tells them they aren't that they are just damaging whatever movement they are now attempting to be at the forefront for.
Heard supporters: Perfectly normal and reasonable.

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I mean, it is a good tool to promote stupidity, no? If you already are lacking common decorum to understand Amber does not know the difference between a pledge or a donation, surely cutting is not far away...
This is gothic teenager in high school type-shit. Mental illness is no joke.
In Amber Heard's world, mental illness is just another trick from the bag of rhetorical corruptness to settle a case.

If Amber actually cared about her supporters she would raise a flag and call that shitty tag out for what it is.

She won't, because cutting yourself for attention is just another thing Amber Heard totally would do.

Psycho enables and normalizes other psycho's to be more upfront and public about being psycho's.

If anything Heard is doing everyone a favor by showing how many people there are to avoid when it comes to having common sense.
 

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt

Biggest Trails Stan
The ironic thing is that if they want metoo to have legitimacy they should side with Depp. It would show that it is about truly standing with victims instead of being a hate filled vendetta against men. Do they not see they are the architects of their own demise? It did put some genuine monsters away like Harvey Weinstein and R Kelly and Jeffrey Epstein is taking a well deserved dirt nap but when then they let these misandrists use it treat all men as born guilty that is what hurts the movement.

I always despised the movement from the beginning since it's always been about believing all women even if she's lying.
 

triphero

Banned
Its incredible so many people can't just view this as a conflict between two people, and perhaps understand that the reason people are siding with one side, Johnny Depp, because they believe the other side is lying. This doesn't have to be about Meetoo, or the wider culture.

Also the idea that this a blow against Meetoo seems preposterous. Like does anyone seriously think this means a return to Harvey Weinstein days? That's silly.

Some of the reactions in the media just makes me shake my head. You can support metoo, like I do, and also support I dunno? Justice and the truth coming out.

I have read this is a backlash to Meetoo which is flat out untrue. This is a backlash to someone people believe the evidence shows to be a narcissistic liar. If the evidence was against Johnny, he would be crucified, but thats just not the case.
 
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Woggleman

Member
I always despised the movement from the beginning since it's always been about believing all women even if she's lying.
True but it could have done some good for women and men who were abused by powerful people. It got hijacked really quickly by the misandrists but no rational people supported Harvey Weinstein or R Kelly.

I honestly think some of these modern feminists hate men more than they care about women which is they will never reverse course no matter the evidence. I know a woman who is a pretty strong feminist who once supported Amber Heard and now is 100% Pro Depp and she admitted that she needs to look at her own biases and apologized to me for some of the angry statements she made in the past. Most of them don't have that capacity for self reflection.
 

triphero

Banned
Metoo has mostly taken down ppl were it was clear the men were abusers.

There were very few cases, were it wasn't clear, but also obvious the woman had no reason to lying about it. Metoo has allowed abusers to be taken down, but very very few innocent ppl mayve gotten trapped as well. And we can use our good sense to look at the circumstances.

We have something called brains. If you aren't following this closely I can understand not getting it. But anyone who is a compassionate, and honest person, who follows this closely, you would assume comes to the same conclusion the Jury did.
 

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt

Biggest Trails Stan
True but it could have done some good for women and men who were abused by powerful people. It got hijacked really quickly by the misandrists but no rational people supported Harvey Weinstein or R Kelly.

I honestly think some of these modern feminists hate men more than they care about women which is they will never reverse course no matter the evidence. I know a woman who is a pretty strong feminist who once supported Amber Heard and now is 100% Pro Depp and she admitted that she needs to look at her own biases and apologized to me for some of the angry statements she made in the past. Most of them don't have that capacity for self reflection.

That movement has always been a man hating movement from the beginning. I don't care if it took down R. Kelly and Harvey Weinstein. How about Asia Argento? The fact it only goes after male abusers is a problem

A feminist is valid thing to be.

So don't start demonizing the word in the same way socialism and communism has been.

Don't make me laugh. I can demonize the word as much as I can. It should be called feminazi since it's all about doing harm to guys whether it's justified or not
 
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