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[Boss Doggie]

Dio not becoming a vampire means William survives, so caesars dad doesn't have to protect the pillar men early, so caesar had a normal relationship with him, and his dad wasn't eaten by the pillar men to wake them up.

I thought they were woken up by nazis

 

[Lirlond]

I thought they were woken up by nazis

I thought only Santana was? I know they eventually found them, but I always assumed that they only started waking up when Caesars dad was eaten, and wouldn't have woken up when the nazis found them without that catalyst.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I thought only Santana was? I know they eventually found them, but I always assumed that they only started waking up when Caesars dad was eaten, and wouldn't have woken up when the nazis found them without that catalyst.

Wait, Caesar's dad getting was important for awakening the Pillar Men? I thought it was just him being their daily noms like many Italian hobo who "pressed" the gems.

And I thought it was nazis waking up Santama that led them looking up the actual pillar men wall emboss.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I think it was Straizo waking up Santana(Which never happens in teh alt universe) which led the Nazis to looking for the other stone emboss?

.....Who knows. King Crimson did it.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

We never learned Santana's real name.

 

[cntr]

We never learned Santana's real name.

It was Santana.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

It was Santana.

Didn't the nazis name him that?

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Didn't the nazis name him that?

He accepted it fully. I'm pretty sure fucking Kars and Wamu call him Santana too xD

Holy shit that is retroactively hilarious.

 

[cntr]

Stroheim guessed Santana's name correctly. It was his real name.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Stroheim guessed Santana's name correctly. It was his real name.

I don't know which explanation is more hilarious

The fact that Kars just calls Santana by the name given to him by Nazis

Or that Stroheim guessed it correctly

It's great, it's all great.

 

[Nairume]

Alternative explanation is that while picking up english/german/italian, Kars and co (and I guess Santana himself) just accepted "Santana" as the translation for whatever his actual name was.

Though, I do prefer the more hilarious interpretation of Kars and co just caring so little about Santana that they just went with what other people call him.

Spoiler

Of course we all know the real explanation, lol

 

[Lirlond]

Wait, Caesar's dad getting was important for awakening the Pillar Men? I thought it was just him being their daily noms like many Italian hobo who "pressed" the gems.

And I thought it was nazis waking up Santama that led them looking up the actual pillar men wall emboss.

I thought Caesars dad was there to STOP people getting eaten no?

 

[BinaryPork2737]

I thought Caesars dad was there to STOP people getting eaten no?

Yeah, Caesar's dad left his family when Caesar was young to prevent the pillar men from awakening, caused by the absorption of blood, shown with Santana absorbing the blood of the people killed by the nazis and the "awaken my masters" sequence. He was there trying to figure out how to kill the pillar men while stopping them from fully waking up, which is why he tells Caesar to inform Lisa Lisa of his death and the pillar men's impending awakening. He believed that she was the only person that could have defeated them if they did wake up.

 

[Boss Doggie]

wait so essentially it was Caesar's fault the Pillar Men woke up? Way to go Caesar.

 

[Lirlond]

Well yeah that was the whole point of Caesars character arc

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Didn't the Nazis feed the pillar with a bunch of blood so that they could wake up before they realized that they were assholes

 

[Boss Doggie]

Didn't the Nazis feed the pillar with a bunch of blood so that they could wake up before they realized that they were assholes

Santana only though.

Well yeah that was the whole point of Caesars character arc

I thought it was more of Caesar not knowing it was his dad.

 

[BinaryPork2737]

I thought it was more of Caesar not knowing it was his dad.

Caesar knew it was his dad, he wanted to kill him for abandoning his family, which is why he followed him into the lair under the colosseum. Caesar's dad didn't recognize his son, and his father's selfless act redeemed him in Caesar's eyes.

 

[Hatty]

So Caesar not only accomplished less than Dire did in Part 1 he actually ended up contributing to the Pillar Man revival?

 

[BinaryPork2737]

So Caesar not only accomplished less than Dire did in Part 1 he actually ended up contributing to the Pillar Man revival?

Yes.

At least he saved Joseph's life twice, so I guess there's that. Though he probably would have survived his fight with Wham if he had teamed up with Joseph, plus they still would have been managed to get the antidote ring. It's really too bad that Caesar didn't know how to use any techniques that were perfect in both attack and defense

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Caesar was definitely a hot head, which contrasts him with Zeppeli from part 1 who's cool and calculated.

I like Caeser.

 

[Monochromaticx]

"A stand is like your asshole. You cant go around showing it off to other people"

LMAO

 

[Frozenprince]

This Pillar Men talk begs to me the question.

Who put them into the Pillar's in the first place? They are immortal right? Why not just find some cave somewhere and chill for a while until you find the stone?

Caesar is also great, bubble hamon >>>

 

[SolVanderlyn]

SHABON RAWNCHA

 

[SolarKnight]

Yukako is getting two episodes I think

I am ok with that

 

[Neol]

Nice little Rohan tease in today's episode.

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

3-4 more weeks until spaghetti gets punched.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I forgot how creepy Hazamada was, kind of weird they sort of tried to "redeem" him later somewhat...I mean he's always a creep, but he hangs out with the heroes later on.

I also realize none of the stuff with him talking about a "group" going after Jotaro ever amounts to anything.

 

[Squishy3]

I forgot how creepy Hazamada was, kind of weird they sort of tried to "redeem" him later somewhat...I mean he's always a creep, but he hangs out with the heroes later on.

I also realize none of the stuff with him talking about a "group" going after Jotaro ever amounts to anything.

I think it's just supposed to imply that all the school Stand users are in cahoots (Akira, Hazamada, Yukako) but ultimately only one of them really gives a shit about doing anything to Jotaro with villainous intent and Yukako never cared and just wanted Koichi.

 

[Matsukaze]

3-4 more weeks until spaghetti gets punched.

On the one hand, the Yukako episodes are going to be gold.

On the other hand, the spaghetti punch is the spaghetti punch, so in the back of my mind there is a small part of me that's just like

 

[Zonic]

Great, I feel like we need to make a list of all Part 4 changes now that we're getting even more of them happening in the anime than what happened in All-Star Battle.

Surface got changed to "Show-Off", which is even more obvious when the name is STILL SHOWN IN ENGLISH, but the subs say "nah, he said Show-Off, ignore that box that says Surface"

 

[Astral]

Damn that means we're getting Echoes Act 2 in a week or two. Guess they're gonna update the opening again so soon. I really hope once the whole gang is introduced, they all show up pointing up together like that one cover. I've always loved that one.

 

[Crash Station]

I forgot how creepy Hazamada was, kind of weird they sort of tried to "redeem" him later somewhat...I mean he's always a creep, but he hangs out with the heroes later on.

I also realize none of the stuff with him talking about a "group" going after Jotaro ever amounts to anything.

Part 4 is really weird about trying to redeem characters or make them sympathetic. Okuyasu is an accomplice to his brother's murders release of a serial killer child rapist, Tamami is a con artist that becomes a loan shark and no one seems to care, Hazamada is the Japanese equivalent of a school shooter waiting to happen that abused animals, Rohan is a sociopath that tortures spiders, etc.

 

[BinaryPork2737]

Great, I feel like we need to make a list of all Part 4 changes now that we're getting even more of them happening in the anime than what happened in All-Star Battle.

Surface got changed to "Show-Off", which is even more obvious when the name is STILL SHOWN IN ENGLISH, but the subs say "nah, he said Show-Off, ignore that box that says Surface"

Get hyped for Harness, Superb Mosquito, and Discount Ruse.

 

[RecRoulette]

Probably discussed a bunch but there's no way we make it to the end of Jojolion without King Crimson showing up right?

 

[Monochromaticx]

Probably discussed a bunch but there's no way we make it to the end of Jojolion without King Crimson showing up right?

why would king crimson show up ?

 

[Astral]

Get hyped for Harness, Superb Mosquito, and Discount Ruse.

Holy shit I hope something at least similar to this happens lmao.

 

[RecRoulette]

why would king crimson show up ?

Because of the naming of all of the Higashikata stands. I'm waiting for long lost cousin Doppio Higashikata to show up.

 

[D-Man]

I'm excited to see how the anime-only fans will react to Yukako next week. I really hope the episode ends on this scene:

 

[XAL]

Thinking about starting this.

dub or sub?

 

[TheAwesomePossum]

Thinking about starting this.

dub or sub?

This is the manga thread, so I'd advise getting out of here unless you want to get spoiled....

BUT TO ANSWER:
The dub of the anime has gone through Parts 1 and 2 of the anime so far with a Part 3 dub in production now. The anime is currently airing Part 4 in Japan. The dub will likely replace the copyrighted names with localized versions, and the original voices are better anyway imo.

So in conclusion: sub.

EDIT: Current anime thread

 

[cntr]

Because of the naming of all of the Higashikata stands. I'm waiting for long lost cousin Doppio Higashikata to show up.

Wow, I never noticed that theme naming

 

[Boss Doggie]

Huh, wow.

California King Bed
King Nothing
Nut King Call
Paper Moon King
Speed King


...holy shit you're right!

 

[Hatty]

Hato still needs a stand, maybe she'll get King Crimson

 

[Jocchan]

Still hoping for Temple of the King to make the list (but no way it's going to happen).

 

[Squishy3]

Araki throws one out of left field and names it In the Hall of the Mountain King

 

[Thud]

Gonna be Sun King.

 

[Semblance]

Araki throws one out of left field and names it In the Hall of the Mountain King

This would be pretty dope actually.

 

[Boss Doggie]

wasn't Chernobog referred to something as a king? Maybe he could add some Disney shit in his works!

 

[Siegcram]

wasn't Chernobog referred to something as a king? Maybe he could add some Disney shit in his works!

Somebody forgot about Bohemian Rhapsody.