That is precisely what I've been hoping for as well.
IntentionalPun
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Article from the other day said there's gonna be 15 songs and it's a "jukebox musical."
I hope not lol
I hope not lol
intbal
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I had never heard that term - "jukebox musical" - until a few months ago when it was used to describe this movie.
I think it's a fairly recent invention (the term, not the concept). Maybe only ten years old.
A Knight's Tale (2001) fits into that category. If that's how they're employing music in Joker 2, I'm fine with that.
Honestly, I expected the worst from this trailer. It wasn't the worst. So I'll stay interested for now.
IntentionalPun
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It's just means it's covering already known songs rather than original works.
Which honestly if I'm going to watch a musical I'd rather hear popular tunes than some corny original BS about the plot… but I'd just rather not watch a musical in the first place.
It's the sheer number of songs I'm more worried about.
I think it's quite the opposite. She looks on point as a worn-out patient, as an elegant lady and as Harley.
Lukaku's First Touch
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Trailer looks good, but I hate musicals so hard pass.
John Bilbo
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Looks interesting. I hope it is not a rehash of the original though. There's a couple of callbacks in the trailer that could have been possibly left out.
FunkMiller
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Even more than the first, this really is Joker in name only. Nothing really to do with the source material. Whether that helps or hinders the film remains to be seen. I'll be skipping this in the cinema though.
The Cockatrice
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No idea what ppl find amazing by the trailer. Looks ok? Oscar-bait type of movie. Nothing particularly insane or wow about it, even more so knowing it has no impact on the new DCU so I'm whatever on it.
digoutyoursoul
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Wasn't feeling it but that last shot was funny. Still , I'm disappointed this is a musicial.
Putonahappyface
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DKehoe
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Oh my God Steve Coogan is in it.
JonSnowball
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Here's a sneak peak of his musical number in Joker 2:Oh my God Steve Coogan is in it.
GymWolf
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They wish.
Hugare
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Cinematography is gorgeous. Some really striking shots.
And that's all that I can say. I dont like Gaga acting, I think she overacts too much. Her overacting may fit the character now, but I'm not hopeful. Joaquin will swallow her whole when they'll be both on screen.
Alao, it being a musical makes me very nervous
Well, if it crashes and burn, at least we have the original movie.
And that's all that I can say. I dont like Gaga acting, I think she overacts too much. Her overacting may fit the character now, but I'm not hopeful. Joaquin will swallow her whole when they'll be both on screen.
Alao, it being a musical makes me very nervous
Well, if it crashes and burn, at least we have the original movie.
Putonahappyface
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near
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I wouldn't worry about it being a musical, I feel like it won't deviate too far from the first film. As a professional clown and an aspiring stand-up comedian, there's always been an association between Arthur Fleck's personality and performing arts. There are a few scenes in the first film that befit a stage performance. It will be an easy transition tonally, with Phoenix's character remaining the same.
This was never based on any specific DC material, it was always loosely based on the characters. Which is cool because the film isn't beholden to any expectations. I prefer it this way, most comic book adaptations bore me to death.
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FunkMiller
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There's a fine line between loosely basing your adaptation on an existing character... and just slapping a character's name on your completely different character because you know that's how it'll sell more tickets.
This is not a complaint. I enjoyed Joker, but it's cynicism is obvious.
Punished Miku
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Trailer just showed a few brief snippets so it's too early to tell. Could be good, could be bad. Will likely see it at home unless it gets insane buzz from real viewers.
I feel like we know the trick now, so part 2 won't have nearly the same impact. If he has a new trick for us, we'll see. I'm mot much of a fan of gaga either, as we have seen with Robies take, Harley Quinn is a TOUGH character to do in live action. This trailer feels like it is deceptive about the film TBH.
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kunonabi
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It could just be a bad trailer but she comes off very flat so far. Maybe they're waiting for the main trailer but when you're having Gaga play Harley Quinn in hotly anticipated sequel to Joker I would have expected them come out of the gates swinging at least a little.
near
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Ascension to madness.
Notice the consistent use of stairs, a metaphor for going further into insanity, maybe? Reminds me of how Bong Joon-ho used stairs and verticality to visually represent upper and lower class dynamics in Parasite. I think the first set of steps are the same ones used by Arthur in the first film where he is dancing, I could be wrong.
Notice the consistent use of stairs, a metaphor for going further into insanity, maybe? Reminds me of how Bong Joon-ho used stairs and verticality to visually represent upper and lower class dynamics in Parasite. I think the first set of steps are the same ones used by Arthur in the first film where he is dancing, I could be wrong.
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Revolutionary
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Good trailer but I'm still skeptical of the musical aspect.
DeafTourette
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Nope. Two different universes. Both Elseworlds movies.
Toots
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It could be a porn movie with Janet Reno, as long as it's directed by Phillips it's gonna be interesting and more than technically soundA musical with lady gaga...
First one he descended into madness alone, this time he ascend to freedom (which in it's purest form is madness) having found what he was missing the whole time, a companion. I get some might think Philipps symbolism is too much on the nose, but dudes we live in an era of marvel movies, compared to which Joker is almost Moby Dick...Ascension to madness.
Notice the consistent use of stairs, a metaphor for going further into insanity, maybe? Reminds me of how Bong Joon-ho used stairs and verticality to visually represent upper and lower class dynamics in Parasite. I think the first set of steps are the same ones used by Arthur in the first film where he is dancing, I could be wrong.
Rentahamster
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That made me more interested. I want creative people to create without being constrained to the same old cookie cutter capeshit.
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ThatStupidLion
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unlike most trailers which rely heavily on showing dialog and most of the action and key moments from a film, essentially giving away the entire movie......I think the trailer said enough without giving much away. brief overview provided: meet and fall in love in a mental asylum. possibly escape by the end...
maybe she gets released and ends up breaking him out at a hearing or something....most of the fantasies/song parts look to be in one of their heads too.
I'm wondering when she leans over to him as they watch the film and says " lets get out of here" if she is alluding to making out or breaking out.
tbh - gaga dressed in full regale walking up the steps might be one of the ending shots/scenes. I could see the movie taking the whole film just to reveal her transformative look. the trailer does feel a bit more focused on harley, so maybe it will skew more towards her POV, which would be neat.
i do hope there is some reckless action/chaos/havoc though. I dont want it to be a melodramatic love story between two insane people taking place within their heads and mental facility for most of the film. gimme some meat to the overall narrative.
maybe she gets released and ends up breaking him out at a hearing or something....most of the fantasies/song parts look to be in one of their heads too.
I'm wondering when she leans over to him as they watch the film and says " lets get out of here" if she is alluding to making out or breaking out.
tbh - gaga dressed in full regale walking up the steps might be one of the ending shots/scenes. I could see the movie taking the whole film just to reveal her transformative look. the trailer does feel a bit more focused on harley, so maybe it will skew more towards her POV, which would be neat.
i do hope there is some reckless action/chaos/havoc though. I dont want it to be a melodramatic love story between two insane people taking place within their heads and mental facility for most of the film. gimme some meat to the overall narrative.
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IntentionalPun
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This is a "teaser", there probably will be a "shows too much" trailer later… and yeah I hate those.
ChuckeRearmed
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So does Batman exist in this universe?
Chuck Berry
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Looks like absolute dogshit, just like the first one
Is this is a musical? what the fuck.
Trash.
Is this is a musical? what the fuck.
Trash.