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[IDKFA]

BBC have had their say on this mega flop. I found this paragraph really interesting regarding the supposed 200ml budget:

Folie à Deux doesn't have big action set pieces. It doesn't have jaw-dropping effects. It's true that Phoenix and Gaga don't work for free, but neither of them is a film-industry megastar. And it's true that there are song and dance numbers, but these pay tribute to old musicals and TV specials, so they're not especially lavish. A detailed breakdown of where all the money went would be much more gripping to read than the film's

I agree. An audit on the budget would make a fascinating read.

Why Joker: Folie à Deux's mega budget spelled disaster

The comic book sequel has bombed at the box office – but what makes its performance even more catastrophic is its astronomical cost.

www.bbc.com

 

[RavageX]

First movies wasnt anything special to me (as a comic/superhero fan). A realistic Joker. Ok. Fine. We kinda had that in Ledger only this is an origin story.

No desire to see a musical, so its already a step down as a sequel. The fact that I didnt enjoy the first movie means there is no need for me to watch this.

I can tell it would suck (for me). Most superhero movies do now since the genre got so popular. Gotta cater to as many ppl as possible, just like games now(which also tend to suck to me).

Side note. It seems like a few of you are arguing about a youtube movie reviewer? Think about that for a few minutes. Maybe stop for a moment, have a laugh and let it go. Not only is this movie not worth any sort of argument, but neither is a YouTube reviewer.

 

[Hookshot]

Having not even watched all of the first Joker I was avoiding this topic but it's done worse than the Marvels and Morbius? Holy shit, that's got to hurt WB financially.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Who wants to see a comic book character in a musical? Lol. I guess Todd Phillips thought getting lady gaga would be a giant boost to ticket sales. This isn’t A Star is Born. It’s Joker 2. And not even a goofy Joker like in the past. But a seriously whacked out guy who can kill in cold blood. Ya, that’s sure musical material.

Not the kind of media to make a musical.

It’d be like Terminator 7 being half musical too. One scene, john Connor is getting chased by a terminator. Next scene, they sing a duet.

That’s not innovative or mad genius skills. That’s being a moron.

 

[Kacho]

Incredible. I'd love to hear how the CFO explains this $200 million flop to investors. "Well sirs, our director hated the fans of the first movie so he really wanted to stick it to them by making a movie for no one."

I didn't even like the first film, it was a forgettable one and done kind of thing. IMO they could have done something better with the sequel. Oh well. Have fun with that, WB.

 

[RPCGamer]

I thought the first one was interesting, but that's about it. The second I heard a sequel was in the works as a musical, I lost any interest.

 

[kindaGoth]

I enjoyed the first. I went into this one skeptical but optimistic. The viewing experience was a slog.

But I haven’t stopped thinking about the film these last few days and have a desire to see it again eventually.

 

[-Minsc-]

Are white single men to blame again????

It's all my fault.

Wait a second... I'm married.

 

[RJMacready73]

BBC have had their say on this mega flop. I found this paragraph really interesting regarding the supposed 200ml budget:

Folie à Deux doesn't have big action set pieces. It doesn't have jaw-dropping effects. It's true that Phoenix and Gaga don't work for free, but neither of them is a film-industry megastar. And it's true that there are song and dance numbers, but these pay tribute to old musicals and TV specials, so they're not especially lavish. A detailed breakdown of where all the money went would be much more gripping to read than the film's

I agree. An audit on the budget would make a fascinating read.

Why Joker: Folie à Deux's mega budget spelled disaster

The comic book sequel has bombed at the box office – but what makes its performance even more catastrophic is its astronomical cost.

www.bbc.com

That massively inflated budget went to pay the star/director to come back to film this abomination

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Incredible. I'd love to hear how the CFO explains this $200 million flop to investors. "Well sirs, our director hated the fans of the first movie so he really wanted to stick it to them by making a movie for no one."

I didn't even like the first film, it was a forgettable one and done kind of thing. IMO they could have done something better with the sequel. Oh well. Have fun with that, WB.

Right off the bat, supposedly Phillips, phoenix and lady gaga total $50M. As for the other $150M who knows. I’m going to assume that doesn’t even include marketing (unless I’m wrong). If marketing is not in that number it’s anyone’s guess where another $150 in direct production costs went.

 

[Trilobit]

It's all my fault.

Wait a second... I'm married.

Married men can also be incels. No one is safe.

 

[IntentionalPun]

FWIW Philips called the $200 million budget number rumor "absurd."

But he also defended spending a ton of money so who knows lol

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I think they need to release Morbius for the third time in theaters

 

[Tams]

We can't keep getting away with this!

Fellow non-decent human incels, we've gone too far...

 

[Warspite]

Making less than Morbius is bad, Joker 2 is a sequel to a well respected billion dollar film, its trailer seem to get a good reaction as well. Could it really be all the bad word of mouth that caused this?

 

[INC]

It's all my fault.

Wait a second... I'm married.

It's fine, you simp to your wife, you still qualify

 

[Days like these...]

They can recoup their losses by releasing it in India and marketing it to guys who like musicals

 

[YCoCg]

I guess subverting expectations also meant subverting the box office earnings.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Making less than Morbius is bad, Joker 2 is a sequel to a well respected billion dollar film, its trailer seem to get a good reaction as well. Could it really be all the bad word of mouth that caused this?

This is some of the worst WOM I've ever heard.

And people were already weary if not outright turned off by the movie because it became pretty widely spread it's a musical, which is certainly not what the trailer depicted, negating a whole lot of good will the trailer or original film had for weeks/months before it was even out. You throw in the widely spread "people are walking out" WOM and you then lose your "I was going to wait and see but would have gone this weekend" crowd and the movie is a disaster.

 

[Trogdor1123]

So is this stuff about the director true?

 

[Clear]

Seems like a paycheck movie to me; nobody involved seems invested enough to even defend it.

Thankfully its another nail in the coffin of this interminable comic-book fad. I'm so fucking over it now.

 

[Kacho]

Making less than Morbius is bad, Joker 2 is a sequel to a well respected billion dollar film, its trailer seem to get a good reaction as well. Could it really be all the bad word of mouth that caused this?

Combination of making it a musical and bad WOM.

It was the easiest layup of all time and they botched it. I have yet to hear a positive thing about it.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I thought the first one was interesting, but that's about it. The second I heard a sequel was in the works as a musical, I lost any interest.

Lol same here. Who TF wants to go see a Joker musical. Who?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

They can recoup their losses by releasing it in India and marketing it to guys who like musicals

They'd lap that shit up good

 

[Raven117]

Comic books have destroyed Hollywood.

Childish, inane drivel. The Batman stuff is even worse as it thinks it’s Shakespeare.

Total bollocks.

Yup.

 

[-Minsc-]

It's fine, you simp to your wife, you still qualify

*whew* Dodged a bullet, I'm still a loser

 

[FunkMiller]

A 50 million, 90 minute movie about Arthur killing people in Arkham would probably have had a 100 million dollar domestic opening weekend.

Silly Todd.

 

[belmarduk]

I will never understand the need to politicize everything. Seems like its a bad movie and most everyone doesn't like those.

 

[West Texas CEO]

I blame the incels for this flop!

 

[Dirk Benedict]

They'd lap that shit up good

Bro, Bollywood puts way too much work on these epic musicals to accept this shit. I've seen some musicals and then there are Bollywood Musicals.

 

[jason10mm]

Bro, Bollywood puts way too much work on these epic musicals to accept this shit. I've seen some musicals and then there are Bollywood Musicals.

NGL, I'd watch THE SHIT out of a fully licensed bollywood justice league film. Just have batmite and mytzlplyk as the reason and run with it!

 

[Dirk Benedict]

NGL, I'd watch THE SHIT out of a fully licensed bollywood justice league film. Just have batmite and mytzlplyk as the reason and run with it!

They do comically epic shit with the straightest of faces. Comedy Legends, IMO.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

When my boy Chris Roberts introduces this Todd Phillips dude as the first ever Legatus Maximus package backer at CitizenCon 2024 in a couple of weeks all your questions about where the budget went will have been answered.

 

[MayauMiao]

Wow I was hoping to go watch this but all the negative reviews left me waiting for a Netflix release.

 

[MrA]

They can recoup their losses by releasing it in India and marketing it to guys who like musicals

Cgi mustache better be glorious

 

[Coconutt]

It being a musical and that lady gaga would feature in it killed all excitement for me so I was never going to watch but interesting to see this movie seems to be hated across the board. Maybe I'll catch it on Max in a couple of months.

 

[The Pleasure]

This Joker 2 musical is gomna be a cult classic much like troll 2

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Still the best Joker!

 

[INC]

*whew* Dodged a bullet, I'm still a loser

Your privilege is secure

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

 

[Warspite]

Get used to it Todd, I don't think you will be working for a while. I believe the Hollywood term is "Director Jail"

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Get used to it Todd, I don't think you will be working for a while. I believe the Hollywood term is "Director Jail"

I wonder if it is the same jail as Joker was It helped to "cure" Joker, will help with movies.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I still would like to see it, and I'm glad they tried something weird. I just have no intention of paying theater prices to see it.

The disparity is crazy, where I live in a semi-rural place tickets still only cost $8.

 

[IDKFA]

That massively inflated budget went to pay the star/director to come back to film this abomination

But how much could they have both made? Surly not that much that it ballooned the budget to 200ml.

 

[poodaddy]

Having not even watched all of the first Joker I was avoiding this topic but it's done worse than the Marvels and Morbius? Holy shit, that's got to hurt WB financially.

 

[SJRB]

I just wish I was at the pitch meeting where the guy who just made you a billion dollars walks up to you and says “the sequel is gonna be a musical”, lmao.

What do you even do at that point?

 

[diffusionx]

Get used to it Todd, I don't think you will be working for a while. I believe the Hollywood term is "Director Jail"

Nintendo killed Gunpei Yokoi for far less.

And yea, this is career ruining levels of bomba.

 

[Warspite]

I just wish I was at the pitch meeting where the guy who just made you a billion dollars walks up to you and says “the sequel is gonna be a musical”, lmao.

What do you even do at that point?

Quadruple the budget seems to have been the answer.

 

[EviLore]

I just wish I was at the pitch meeting where the guy who just made you a billion dollars walks up to you and says “the sequel is gonna be a musical”, lmao.

What do you even do at that point?

"No"