This is the best part about this issue. Seriously, I was actually dumbstruck by their behaviour.
That was just messed up :lol
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Jonathan Hickmans New Avengers / Avengers |OT| Thanos is in this (Spoilers)
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Manmademan
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..and then they kiss
seriously, this arc will never, ever see film. it's just too goddamn out there.
Fucking scared me, honestly.
But it was a cool reference to the Brothers from the Ultimate universe.
Well, the MCU would be slaughtered then destroyed by the Cabal.
Manmademan
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I don't think the MCU has canonically been established to be within the marvel multiverse. If it is (a definite possibility) then it's one of millions. might take the cabal a while to get around to it.
it's fucked the second they find it though, the power gap is just too wide.
Future Foundation
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Yeah, from the Supreme Power universe.
Oh man, I will laugh so hard if this is how the Ultimate Universe finally goes out. Curb stomped by The Cabal. Oh lord, this needs to happen so badly. Please based Hickman, please I beg of you.
I'm hoping this is how we're finally rid of the Ultimate Universe. Please oh please get fucked up old school by The Cabal.
Manmademan
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It's one of them, the one that appears in supreme power. There is more than one squadron supreme.
And Doctor strange just obliterated a Justice League lookalike two issues ago! Someone really wants to kick DC in the junk
It could be. It is part of the multiverse and has its own numbered designation. Wouldn't bet on it.
Never would I have guessed that one day Thanos
would murder Supreme Hyperion
MCU is Earth-199999, Young Avengers went there off panel.
You should be reading Avengers along side it and the Infinity event as both Avengers titles tie into it. It's all totally worth it though.
You and me both.
I've heard about that but could someone post the panel where that happens?
'Where they reference the event- that is.
Future Foundation
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Ah, okay. Thanks. I'd read somewhere that it was them.
Also, oh my God. Imagine if the Cabal gets loose in Ultimate Marvel U.
evil solrac v3.0
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and who is that person?
The Silver
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The Cabal must be feeling like they're in heaven, they'be been granted a license to kill, torture, and blow up planets all they want.
Good for them I say.
Good for them I say.
Manmademan
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The incursions started with the birth of Rabum Alal, whoever that is. caused the early death of the first earth and everything cascaded from there.
Find him, do him like they did to Abraxas. Shoot him with the ultimate nullifier- boom. he never existed, incursions never happened, all earths are saved.
Marvel you can just send me my fee through paypal, no personal checks
the molecule man. Assuming he's sane (he wasn't when sentry took him out) he's the most powerful human in existence.
Molecule Man
Reed and the Illuminati are probably going to have to team up with DOOM. They've both been working the problem from different ends so together they may just have a wide enough of a view of the incursions to figure out what's causing them. From there it's just a matter of fixing it.
But what if Rabum Alal isn't a person but an event?
Here's an image I found:
after that just read Avengers and New Avengers until you catch up.
Manmademan
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Doom is no man's second choice. Doom fixes this one on his own. He's already gotten farther than the illuminati ever have, and has enough power to wipe the mapmakers from existence.
Who needs reed?
Manmademan
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It's been referred to as "him" a few times by black swan. unless that's just a really drawn out red herring, it's a singular entity.
Vermillion
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Can we talk about why anyone calls Reed the smartest man on the planet? How is it not Doom?
Manmademan
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dunno. I've always been in favor of Doom as #1, if for no other reason than Reed is totally useless when it comes to magic and victor isn't.
edit: Doom has mad thinker on his squad in NA #24 though, and that guy is no slouch. questionable whether Doom could have done it all on his own.
But she's never really seen "him". She knows about "him" second hand, from the Black Swans. Even she doesn't have a full view of the incursions. Solving this problem is going to take a full view of what's going on. Between Reed's info and Doom's info they may just have one.
Oldschoolgamer
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I need to read the other Avengers comic. Is Valeria with Sue or still chillin with Doom?
Baron von Loathsome
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I was planning on picking up Avengers soon, anyway. Thanks.
Manmademan
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Doom knows where the mapmakers are- and has enough firepower to blink them all out of existence.
Their data is going to be infinitely more useful in terms of solving this than anything the illuminati have. Hell, Amadeus cho was running around desperately trying to steal back Tony Stark's designs from SHIELD. they don't have shit.
We don't know what they have yet, the Illuminati have just been side characters since the time skip. I don't think the mapmakers know too much outside of what Doom could have already gotten from them. They've been portrayed as scavengers, not guys looking to put an end to this.
The Silver
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Clearly we need a Council of Dooms to set everything right, and hopefully they won't fuck around and get embarassed by some celestials.
She's with Doom. Reed came to visit her last issue because he thought the next incurrsion was going to destroy the world-but he didn't tell anyone, he just wanted to see her one last time. Doom chastised him for visiting in the middle of the night. "Doom insists that all children get a good night's sleep."
IrishNinja
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#TeamDOOM
yeah, i think mamma might be on point here, shit's getting to where it's gotta be undone, sadly....it'd be balls-out to keep it as status quo though
oh man, i'd love for that to be how the Ultimate U ends
yeah, i think mamma might be on point here, shit's getting to where it's gotta be undone, sadly....it'd be balls-out to keep it as status quo though
oh man, i'd love for that to be how the Ultimate U ends
Manmademan
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The mapmakers and the ebon priests are said to be antagonists, with the ebon kings/ivory kings possibly above both of those. The illuminati didn't even know what any of those words even meant, let alone have intimate familiarity with any of them.
All of these groups have been confirmed to be able to view other worlds and other incursions at will via mirrors, and have been skipping around the multiverse for some time now.
There's no reason not to believe the mapmakers have VASTLY more data on the incursions than the illuminati do.
BuddyJoeHooker
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Subbed, but I got to read the two latest issues before I can get into this discussion.
They live in the space between universes and Black Swan is terrified of them. The same can't be said of the Illuminati.
Sibersk Esto
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Wouldn't want them getting raped or something
BuddyJoeHooker
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I wonder if Spider-Verse will at least hint at the incursions happening.
Manmademan
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true. At the conclusion of infinity Black Swan laughed off the builders as even a threat after the combined forces of the galaxy barely held them off.
"Yall are all fucked if the SIDERA MADRIS show up, let alone the mapmakers themselves" was pretty much the quote.
You mean the Millarverse? Why waste the time?