Palette Swap
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Because real people fuck their sisters all the time lol.
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Jonathan Hickmans New Avengers / Avengers |OT| Thanos is in this (Spoilers)
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Real people also cannibalize each other and occasionally throw babies out of windows.
Hickman's Ultimates were up against the newly formed New 52. Yeah, Marvel didn't want Hickman on a dying book.
Wasn't that Old Man Logan though?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
It would have been interesting if Hickman did Ultimates while doing Avengers/New Avengers. We would have probably seen some of the other Ultimate incursions then. But, it also would have ruined the fun a bit when we finally got to see how they were handling the incursions in the Ultimate universe a few issues ago.
Mark Millar
Anyway, Hickman wanted to salvage the Ultimate U. according to him he would have done some real world building and written multiple titles to do that, but obviously it didn't work out. At least he got his hands back on the Maker.
Memento Mori
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Hickman's been quoted as saying he wanted to stay on Ultimates for years. The launch of the new 52 destroyed its sales though apparently so they took him off.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Yes because everyone in the ultimate universe fucked their sisters right?
No, but they dabble in cannibalism several times.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Except they don't. Only hulk and blob are cannibals
The Silver
Member
Was it ever hinted that Blob was a cannibal before Ultimatum?
From what I saw of him in Ultimate X-Men he was just some goofy bad guy catfishing Beast
From what I saw of him in Ultimate X-Men he was just some goofy bad guy catfishing Beast
D
Deleted member 13876
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There was absolutely nothing that hinted at it. He was one of the more redeemable bad guys throughout the Ultimate X-Men books.
Gambit 1138
Banned
How do vampires and an planet of zombies count as "ultimate characters are cannobals". If you count those then so is 616
It's cool to see someone else pro-Ultimate Universe! I grew up reading it.
I hope Ultimate Peter survives.
I'm just joking man, chill.
Just accept that there are several folks who think the Ultimate Universe are bigger assholes compared to 616. And while I like several aspects of the Ultimate Universe (mostly the Spidey series, Ultimate Fury, Ultimate X-Men) there are parts where I agree. Ultimate Cap is far less likeable than his mainstream counterpart (Old man Steve is a dick right now) for example. Maybe you think it's more realistic, but that doesn't mean others are inclined to agree.
The Silver
Member
I just hope Ultimate Reed survives all this craziness and kills the rest of the Ultimate F4 before Secret Wars is done.
Coriolanus
Banned
I am almost certain that hickman was the one that wrote the world hunger ish. Which is why i thought your comment that he went "lolno he still stretchy satan" so odd.
Could be wrong, memory is terribad as of late.
Whaddayamean Essex's role?
And valeria already shown as mad distrusting of U. Reed, so good start.
Yeah, so many ultimate plot hooks just left hanging
The Silver
Member
Fialkov wrote that arc, Hickman was only on the first 12 issues of Ultimates.
Wordless previews show him interacting with Doctor Strange plus he's prominently featured on one of the covers:
He might not have had a bridge at the time.
shadyspace
Banned
Jeez so many comments on Secret Wars catch-up articles around the internet shitting on how "complicated", and "convoluted" and my favorite one "This is why I'm sticking with the MCU." It's just so patently obvious that it's people justifying not spending the time or energy on the books so they don't feel like they're missing out (which they are).
It's gonna be like this when the Secret Wars thread is finished and available to the public.
MM is a walking time bomb created by the Beyonders. Doom and MM went back in time and MM explained this to him, so Doom started killing the MM of different universes, setting them off early, and eventually this led to the incursions. Along the way Doom created the persona of Rabum Alal and recruited the Black Swans.
Who cares about them.
The time I was most invested in the DC universe was during Infinite Crisis. It was complicated and convoluted, I often didn't get the full significant of events (not being a long time reader), but it was great because it felt like an event should feel. Not some alternate reality that will cease to be in 6 issues. Not one of those "Nothing will ever be the same!!!! (for 6 weeks)" events. It played to the strengths of DC's history, and set up an interesting status quo for a ton of characters.
Secret Wars has the same sort of feeling from the previews we have seen.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
D
Deleted member 13876
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He actually had one (or something similar) long before 616 Reed I think. What with the Zombieverse and all.
TheWorthyEdge
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I read New Avengers Vol.1 should I continue? (issues 1-6)
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yes. You have a few days to catch up. Get reading!
Yea but what are the odds he played around with it after the whole Zombieverse thing? He probably locked that thing up until the incursions started.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Bought Vol.2 Infinity. 7-12 Here. We. Go. Ordering Vol.3 Other Worlds on Amazon.
Uh-oh. Can someone save him? The way they released the TPBs about the Infinity event is awful. I have a hard time trying to explain it myself.
The easiest way to deal with it is just to order the omnibus, it has all the build up chapters and important tie-ins in the right order.
Coriolanus
Banned
Should also factor that Young U. Reed's experiences with dimension travelling were quite traumatic, given all that hoopla with the monster amoeba and all.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yup. And he needs Avengers as well. And then Time Runs Out.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
has it been confirmed that the black swans are alternate universes valerias?
I found the UK trades of the events are best
The Inifinity event stuff is split into two trades but has all the pertinent series contained inside.
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I'd agree with this.
There was some great stuff that came out of the Ultimate universe, but the whole thing needs to be retired ASAP. And thankfully that seems to be happening.
The way they released in the UK is weird as hell though.
So you have
Avengers vol 1 TPB (#1-6)
Avengers vol 2 TPB (#7-11)
Avengers vol 3 TPB (#12-17)
Avengers vol 4 TPB (#18-23 INFINITY issues)
and
New Avengers Vol 1 TPB (#1-6)
New Avengers Vol 2 TPB (#7-12 INFINITY issues)
And then you have the two Infinity paperbacks that collect
Infinity #1-3, Avengers #18-20, New Avengers 9-10
&
Infinity #4-6, Avengers #21-23, New Avengers 11-12.
Notice that the two infinity paperbacks do not include New Avengers #7-8? So you would still have to get New Avengers Vol 2 TPB to get issues #7-8.
The other option, of course, is to get the Infinity hardcover that includes
Infinity #1-6
Avengers #14-23
New Avengers #7-12
However, although you can now skip the second volume of New Avengers, you have to get Avengers Vol 3 for issues #12-13.
TL;DR: If you get the two infinity paperbacks then you will end up rebuying New Avengers #9-12 (to get #7-8) and if you get the Infinity hardcover then you end up rebuying Avengers #14-17 (to get Avengers #12-13).