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Judge rules gay couples have right to marry in Kentucky

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Volimar

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http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...ys-right-marry-kentucky-judge-rules/11900313/

A federal judge today ruled that same-sex couples have a right to marry in Kentucky.

"In America, even sincere and long-hold religious beliefs do not trump the constitutional rights of those who happen to have been out-voted," U.S. District Judge John G. Heyburn II wrote to invalidate Kentucky's constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

Heyburn in February had ruled that Kentucky must recognize gay marriages performed in other states.

Heyburn upheld the right to marry today, but put his ruling on hold pending a decision by a higher court. Heyburn rejected the only justification offered by lawyers for Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear — that traditional marriages contribute to a stable birth rate and the state's long-term economic stability.

"These arguments are not those of serious people," he said.

Heyburn held that the ban on gay marriage within Kentucky violates the constitutional guarantee of equal protection under the law and that there is "no conceivable legitimate purpose for it."

He held that the state's 2004 constitutional amendment and a similar statute enacted in 1998 deny gay couples lower income and estate taxes; leave from work under the Family and Medical Leave Act, family insurance coverage; and the ability to adopt children as a couple.

"Perhaps most importantly," he added, the Kentucky law denies same-sex couples the "intangible and and emotional benefits of civil marriage."

Heyburn stayed the ruling until the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decides gay-marriage cases from Kentucky and three other states. Oral arguments are scheduled for Aug. 6.

The ruling continues an unbroken string of decisions in which federal judges have struck down rules prohibiting gay marriage, which is now legal in 19 states and the District of Columbia.

The case was brought by Timothy Love and Lawrence Ysunza, who lived together for 34 years and were denied a marriage license on Feb. 13 by the Jefferson County Clerk's office; and Maurice Blanchard and Dominque James, who have lived together 10 years and were cited for trespassing when they refused to leave the clerk's office after being denied a license on Jan. 23, 2013. A jury later convicted them of trespassing but fined them a penny.

Heyburn noted that Love's emergency heart surgery had to be delayed last summer to prepare documents allowing Ysunza access and decision-making authority for Love.

Blanchard and James alleged that their inability to obtain parental rights as a married couple has deterred them from adopting children.

Heyburn ruled that gays are a "disadvantaged class" and deserve protection similar to women in equal protection cases. That in turn required the state to show that the Kentucky's gay marriage ban is "substantially related to an important governmental object."

But he ruled that even under a less demanding standard, lawyers for Beshear had shown "no rational relation between the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage and the commonwealth's asserted interest in promoting naturally procreative marriages."

Beshear hired an Ashland law firm to defend the law after Attorney General Jack Conway refused to do so.

Since Heyburn's February decision requiring Kentucky to recognize gay marriages, eight federal judges and one federal appeals court have invalidated state laws banning gay marriage.

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I don't usually like to quote the whole article, but some really good stuff in here.

Thanks to NateDrake for finding a better source.
 

Fracas

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Might be the first time I'm proud of something my state's done. Awesome to hear!

The genderless dystopia continues, kind of
 

Volimar

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Your state didn't do anything, it was a judge.

A judge in Kentucky though.

If I wear an Ohio State jersey and the team wins, does that not make me part of the team!?!?!

Think about how you want to frame your apology.

:p
 

slit

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A judge in Kentucky though.

If I wear an Ohio State jersey and the team wins, does that not make me part of the team!?!?!
Think about how you want to frame your apology.

:p

My apology: I'm sorry but no it doesn't.
 
Heyburn upheld the right to marry today, but put his ruling on hold pending a decision by a higher court. Heyburn rejected the only justification offered by lawyers for Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear — that traditional marriages contribute to a stable birth rate and the state's long-term economic stability.

"These arguments are not those of serious people," he said.

lmao, gotta love this statement.
 

HylianTom

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Fun fact: the ruling was issued by a Bush nominee. I love it when that happens. The schadenfreude.. soooo delicious..
 

Escape Goat

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Hopefully it doesn't turn into Indiana where 2 days later, the state says NUH UH and takes it away.

Its not been taken away. Not really. The judges ruling is law pending the appeal which will not succeed as most arguments are stretched so thin to meet the rational basis requirement to even be heard in court.
 
Its not been taken away. Not really. The judges ruling is law pending the appeal which will not succeed as most arguments are stretched so thin to meet the rational basis requirement to even be heard in court.

Clerks still aren't allowing it though. At least not right now, until the appeal is over.
 
Hey, look, Kentucky is already a pretty bad state. At least let them have this

This is true. I'm surprised, if there was any state that would fight hard for it's anti-gay agenda I thought it would be Kentucky. Good on the jury in the Maurice Blanchard and Dominque James case and Attorney General Jack Conway!
 

Escape Goat

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This is true. I'm surprised, if there was any state that would fight hard for it's anti-gay agenda I thought it would be Kentucky. Good on the jury in the Maurice Blanchard and Dominque James case and Attorney General Jack Conway!

Kentucky has a wildly popular democratic governor. His obamacare exchange is hugely popular too.
 

GhaleonEB

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Heyburn upheld the right to marry today, but put his ruling on hold pending a decision by a higher court. Heyburn rejected the only justification offered by lawyers for Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear — that traditional marriages contribute to a stable birth rate and the state's long-term economic stability.

"These arguments are not those of serious people," he said.
I've really been enjoying how the judges deciding these cases are knocking down the arguments against marriage equality so bluntly.
 
"These arguments are not those of serious people," he said

I love this quote. It's awkward and stilted, and sounds like what he really wanted to say is "this stupid shit is said by dumbasses and I don't even have to argue why it's stupid shit".
 
Kentucky has a wildly popular democratic governor. His obamacare exchange is hugely popular too.

Could be I'm out of touch (I used to live in Southern Ohio 10+ years ago, and as my dad used to say, back then the schools in KY taught the three Rs: Reading, Writing, and Route 23 :p).
 

Escape Goat

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"a drag"

outside of maybe Louisville, does Kentucky have an economy anyway? i thought their literacy rate or something was amongst the lowest.

funny how the best way to legalize gay marriage in a state is to pass a bill outlawing it

Coal and farming.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
"a drag"

outside of maybe Louisville, does Kentucky have an economy anyway? i thought their literacy rate or something was amongst the lowest.

funny how the best way to legalize gay marriage in a state is to pass a bill outlawing it

It's a mixed bag, but we manufacture a ton of coal, and agriculture's obviously huge here.

I live in the western part of the state in a small rural town. And yeah it's a pretty stereotypical Kentucky community, but not everyone is like that.
edit: ^lol
 

Tritroid

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Ugh, can we not have one positive Kentucky thread without the slams about literacy, rednecks, or it being a podunk state in general?

This is important for a good bulk of the central state. Lexington actually has one of the highest rates of LGBTs per capita in the country believe it or not.
 

Seth C

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Hey, look, Kentucky is already a pretty bad state. At least let them have this

Easily in the top 50%.

"a drag"

outside of maybe Louisville, does Kentucky have an economy anyway? i thought their literacy rate or something was amongst the lowest.

funny how the best way to legalize gay marriage in a state is to pass a bill outlawing it

Lexington is home to Tempur-Pedic, Fazoli's, Ecampus, Jif, and Lexmark. I'm guessing you've heard of a few of those. All the Post-It notes for the entirety of North America are manufactured in tiny little podunk Cynthiana. Lexington is also one of the most highly educated cities in the entire country and has a longstanding reputation for being gay friendly and has an abnormally large gay population. Oh, and our mayor is openly gay.
 
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