Judge rules gay couples have right to marry in Kentucky

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So for straight couples in Kentucky who don't want children or cannot have children... surely they too are banned from marriage, yes?
 
Lexington is home to Tempur-Pedic, Fazoli's, Ecampus, Jif, and Lexmark. I'm guessing you've heard of a few of those. All the Post-It notes for the entirety of North America are manufactured in tiny little podunk Cynthiana. Lexington is also one of the most highly educated cities in the entire country and has a longstanding reputation for being gay friendly and has an abnormally large gay population. Oh, and our mayor is openly gay.

High-five, Lex Pride.
 
Lexington is home to Tempur-Pedic, Fazoli's, Ecampus, Jif, and Lexmark. I'm guessing you've heard of a few of those. All the Post-It notes for the entirety of North America are manufactured in tiny little podunk Cynthiana. Lexington is also one of the most highly educated cities in the entire country and has a longstanding reputation for being gay friendly and has an abnormally large gay population. Oh, and our mayor is openly gay.
Living in Louisville and having graduated from the University of Louisville I generally don't like to recognize Lexington as being a progenitor of anything of reasonable cultural or economic value, but, my god man, you need to cite this when declaring your city's illustrious output
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It's so delicious.

Also glad to hear this news. I'd like to believe Beshear willfully issued the dumbest reason possible to combat gay marriage, thus allowing a judge to flip it over without much effort.
 
Living in Louisville and having graduated from the University of Louisville I generally don't like to recognize Lexington as being a progenitor of anything of reasonable cultural or economic value, but, my god man, you need to cite this when declaring your city's illustrious output

It's so delicious.

Also glad to hear this news. I'd like to believe Beshear willfully issued the dumbest reason possible to combat gay marriage, thus allowing a judge to flip it over without much effort.

I like County Boy's beers a lot more than Wet Sixth's, personally. :)
 
I'm sorry, Fracas, but you know what I speak of is true.

Eh, it's not all bad. As has been said, Lexington and Louisville are 2 huge, great cities. I go to school in Murray and it's a fantastic place too. A far cry from the stereotypical redneck haven.
 
This ruling is interesting because it doesn't rule on the plaintiff's due process claims (or their establishment clause claims!), only on equal protection.

From the ruling:
As to immutability, the relevant inquiry is not whether a person could, in fact, change a characteristic, but rather whether the characteristic is so integral to a person’s identity that it would be inappropriate to require her to change it to avoid discrimination. For example, strictly speaking, a person can change her citizenship, religion, and even gender. Legislative classifications based on these characteristics nevertheless receive heightened scrutiny because, even though they are in a sense subject to choice, no one should be forced to disavow or change them. That is, these characteristics are “an integral part of human freedom” entitled to constitutional protection

This is actually a few salient point; although the body of research suggests that sexual orientation has at least a genetic component (for example in twinning studies), ultimately the claim that sexual orientation is immutable should not be parsed as an essentially medical claim ("we haven't yet figured out how to treat this"--which implies that if we could, we ought to), but rather as a vital and positive aspect of a person's sense of self that contributes positively to a diverse society. Homosexuality is immutable in part because no one should attempt to mute it, because it is not aberrant or harmful and it is deeply felt.
 
Eh, it's not all bad. As has been said, Lexington and Louisville are 2 huge, great cities. I go to school in Murray and it's a fantastic place too. A far cry from the stereotypical redneck haven.

That's only two cities!

Well at least it's not keeping women's bodies alive past brain death in order to give birth to a child.
 
"a drag"

I thought their literacy rate or something was amongst the lowest.

http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx#f2

According to this government study, 25 states have literacy rates equal to or lower than Kentucky. This was the first result in Google when you search "Literacy rates by state."

Imagine how it feels to be a college-educated Kentuckian and having people tell you that they are impressed that you can read and speak English at an adult level. The ignorant Kentuckian is an age-old stereotype, so I don't expect people to know any better.
 
http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx#f2

According to this government study, 25 states have literacy rates equal to or lower than Kentucky. This was the first result in Google when you search "Literacy rates by state."

Imagine how it feels to be a college-educated Kentuckian and having people tell you that they are impressed that you can read and speak English at an adult level. I suppose I shouldn't let ignorance affect me.

At least you're not from _____________.
 
At least you're not from _____________.

I'm going to be really fair here: there are other states on this list with literacy problems greater than Kentucky that face different challenges. For example, first-generation/immigrant children who speak English as a second-language. This may be part of the reason why Arizona, California, New York, Florida, Illinois, DC*, and New Jersey have (some significantly) lower literacy rates than Kentucky.
 
Easily in the top 50%.



Lexington is home to Tempur-Pedic, Fazoli's, Ecampus, Jif, and Lexmark. I'm guessing you've heard of a few of those. All the Post-It notes for the entirety of North America are manufactured in tiny little podunk Cynthiana. Lexington is also one of the most highly educated cities in the entire country and has a longstanding reputation for being gay friendly and has an abnormally large gay population. Oh, and our mayor is openly gay.

Lexington is a college town though, so I'm not terribly surprised it is pretty liberal. I didn't mean any offense in my post though, I honestly thought I had read something about Kentucky. Maybe it was something else
 
As a native of Louisville with plenty of gay friends who had to go out of state after their weddings to make things official, one as recent as last fall, I think this is great news!

I like County Boy's beers a lot more than Wet Sixth's, personally. :)

Shotgun Wedding is one of my favorites from them! Great bunch of guys. I've poured beer next to them at Thunder for the past two years. And I agree, I like their beer better than West Sixth's as well.
 
Living in Louisville and having graduated from the University of Louisville I generally don't like to recognize Lexington as being a progenitor of anything of reasonable cultural or economic value, but, my god man, you need to cite this when declaring your city's illustrious output

It's so delicious.

That beer is one of the many reasons why I love my state.
 
yay for the homeland!

people think of Kentucky as pretty conservative, but as has been pointed out, there's some nice pockets of liberalism in the state. It's nowhere near as bad as MS or WV.
 
A judge in Kentucky though.

If I wear an Ohio State jersey and the team wins, does that not make me part of the team!?!?!

Think about how you want to frame your apology.

:p

Voting and/or campaigning requires direct participation in the process. Wearing a jersey does not.
 
It's a mixed bag, but we manufacture a ton of coal, and agriculture's obviously huge here.

I live in the western part of the state in a small rural town. And yeah it's a pretty stereotypical Kentucky community, but not everyone is like that.
edit: ^lol

Really? Where at, if I may ask? I live in a p small rural town in western Ky myself.

Glad to see this is happening though, I have two gay siblings so I'm sure this makes them happy.
 
Man, I really need to watch Community again. Never continue past S2.

And oh, congrats to gaybros who want to get married in Kentucky, I suppose.

I've wondered where that is from. Thought Community was more straight laced than that, might have to give it a watch.
 
Why bother living if you can't live in glorious California/NY/etc?

Oh wait, Dax is dumb as shit.
It might be a beautiful state with some great cities, but the political climate there is too hostile to anyone who isn't white or male (or straight to an extent) for my taste.

Judging a state based on certain policies it may or may not implement that affect me is pretty damn important, and isn't all that dumb.
 
It might be a beautiful state with some great cities, but the political climate there is too hostile to anyone who isn't white or male (or straight to an extent) for my taste.

Judging a state based on certain policies it may or may not implement that affect me is pretty damn important, and isn't all that dumb.

In what ways do you feel the political climate is particularly beneficial to white people as opposed to other races? Is this based on anything in particular?
 
Ah marriage, I really don't understand why such a big deal is made about same sex partnerships wanting to marry. The statistics in the past haven't exactly drawn marriage in a positive light over the last decade or so, so you'd think the church would be happy that more people would want to tie the knot and put what is considered a waining tradition of their faith in a fresh and new light.

May even drive the number of peeps getting married higher. Good PR for the church and religion.
 
Ah marriage, I really don't understand why such a big deal is made about same sex partnerships wanting to marry. The statistics in the past haven't exactly drawn marriage in a positive light over the last decade or so, so you'd think the church would be happy that more people would want to tie the knot and put what is considered a waining tradition of their faith in a fresh and new light.

May even drive the number of peeps getting married higher. Good PR for the church and religion.

it's not really about religion yo

never has been
 
I just have to shake my head. People act like gay people get lynched in KY or something. The mayor of Lexington is an openly gay man.

Has your city ever had a gay mayor? If not, then get with the 21st century, you ignorant homophobes.
 
I just have to shake my head. People act like gay people get lynched in KY or something. The mayor of Lexington is an openly gay man.

Has your city ever had a gay mayor? If not, then get with the 21st century, you ignorant homophobes.

Had a gay Premier (a bit like a Governor in the US) in the 70's. Gay kids have been murdered since then here. Doesn't mean shit.
 
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