Julian Assange to issue statement 'in front' of Ecuador embassy
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reptilescorpio
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Yep also whoever put up the bail money are shit out of luck
I'm sure they knew of his plans, seems logical.
They didn't.
reptilescorpio
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Yeah good point, he has tons of rich people who like that he does the whole free information thing.
ComputerMKII
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Can't hear anything because of the ambient noise.
Forsete
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Pretty good audio here: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/live/assange-ska-uttala-sig---expressen-bevakar/
reptilescorpio
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Abc4 coverage is fantastic here in Australia, was a bit surprised. Connection only dropped sound a few times before the appearance started.
Damo Yoshi
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Would be interested to hear what he says about Australia.
"... and Australia"
"... and Australia"
Angry Fork
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Do you think this kind of trolling is fun or are you just bored.
Kenshin001
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Yes, they popped up around the time he humiliated governments because it was at that time he was using his celebrity status to sleep with Swedish women. It was also the time the other Wikileaks staff got fed up with him being a pompous arrogant douchebag. Coincidence? Had he an ounce of humility he wouldn't be in this situation.
He is not running from being sent to the US. The US and UK have an extradition treaty. There is nothing stopping the US extraditing him from the UK where he has been living in his country house all this time.
ComputerMKII
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'Bradley Manning must be released'
Here we go.
Here we go.
Damo Yoshi
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Nothing about the alleged rape charges?
Hmm...
Hmm...
Also, a pony, please. A unicorn pony.
reptilescorpio
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Pretty sure he has talked about them once or twice in the past....
Angry Fork
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Damo Yoshi
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Oh, he has. Just curious that he didn't mention them on this platform.
soundscream
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He's lucky he hasn't been executed.
I don't know how else to characterise people who defend an international fugitive who has been charged with rape, and support his attempts to circumvent the justice system in two free democratic states with independent robust legal systems, simply because they agree with his political views.
Yes, they're rape apologists.
By ignoring the 5th and 6th amendments.
reptilescorpio
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Alleged rape apologists.
JonathanEx
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Well, that speech was seeping with irony, particularly in the bits where talking about persecuting journalists/defending free speech and then praising that list of countries...
reptilescorpio
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I bet someone set up a market stall around the corner to make a killing on them.
Angry Fork
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You kidnap children and slit their throats.
Anyone who says otherwise and defends you is a child killing apologist, let it be known.
Could you get law enforcement to take you seriously first, please?
Angry Fork
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No that doesn't matter actually because guilt, evidence or a trial isn't necessary, if I say you're something then that's what you are because I said so.
Elvin Atombender
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Assange was in Sweden for a while. He praised the laws in Sweden and the freedom of speech and the press there. He even applied to become a Swedish citizen.
Now he says that going to Sweden suddenly equals getting sent to USA and a possible death sentence?
If the US really wanted him they would have requested to have him extradited from the UK, wouldn't they?
If Assange had gone to Sweden at once all this (including any possible jailtime) would have been over a long time ago.
Now he says that going to Sweden suddenly equals getting sent to USA and a possible death sentence?
If the US really wanted him they would have requested to have him extradited from the UK, wouldn't they?
If Assange had gone to Sweden at once all this (including any possible jailtime) would have been over a long time ago.
reptilescorpio
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He was originally in Sweden for the investigation until they said they were done with him so he went to the UK for some talks.
maquiladora
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I heard those masks have false-flag-vision lenses and chemtrail filters. Gotta fight back against TPTB man.
You're missing the point, which isn't that he should be considered a rapist before convicted, it is that the two things aren't comparable. If no evidence existed, things wouldn't have gone this far. Unlike the case against Assange, your accusations would never be taken seriously because you lack any evidence whatsoever.
onken
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Some Iraqis might disagree.
Maybe it also has something to do with the fact that the accusee hasn't royally pissed off multiple governments.
Angry Fork
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Do you really mean this or is this an elaborate prank.
Not even going to bother, shit on Assange all you want I don't have the patience.
Im not sure why people keep saying this. If you behave this way, there is no way to have a discussion with you.
Its either he is guilty of the charges or the USA truly wants him (dead or his life). But since its not your skin, you are being obtuse about this whole thing. His life is at stake here. Im sure if he were truly guilty of rape, he wouldn't have a problem doing time. But if he knows he aint guilty and feels that the USA wants to torturer him for the rest of his life, he wont give up easily and must try to avoid being played by the US government.
Two women with which he has been known to associate with claim to have been raped. Is law enforcement supposed to ignore this just because the US doesn't like him?
Visualante2
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Irrespective of people latching onto Anonymous, and tacking it onto stupid things. This is not one of them. Anonymous activists do a lot of work for unsung causes including freedom of speech that stretches far beyond something as trivial as SOPA or ACTA
ElectricBlue187
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onken
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Nope but it doesn't rule out the possibility that they haven't been given an incentive to make such claims; the surrounding circumstances are far from cut-and-dry. I personally think he should return to Sweden and get this sorted either way (and the UK government is right not to let it slide) but still, it wouldn't surprise me if this was a stitch-up. Look what happened to Al-Mehgrahi.
Yeah but you can guarantee that the vast majority of people wearing those masks are not "Anonymous activists" but douchey scenesters trying to look cool.
I'm not a rape apologist. He isn't even charged with anything yet and there are other factors involved here.
Never read a Roman Polanski thread on Gaf before?
Too bad he doesn't want to then. That's the sort of thing that should be handled in court, but suggesting that what is happening is due to pressure from the US before it has been sorted out in court is unfair to the women involved. Just like Assange isn't guilty until proven, so should you not suggest that this is all due to US involvement either, as the women deserve the benefit of doubt too.
He will be, questioning is just a legally necessary step before charging him.
onken
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No, I live in the real world and don't discount either possibility, unlike you. Your stance is basically "the government would NEVER frame a person", it's naive to the point of absurdity.
No, it's "until there's reason to believe it is happening, there's no reason to believe it's happening". A baseless conspiracy theory is what it is until then. Just because a government doesn't like an individual doesn't mean that everything undesirable that happens to the individual is that government's fault; you need to prove a link between them, and there is no evidence for that.
Indeed, he probably isn't the first guy to try this either. He might be the first guy that just doesn't get kicked out of the embassy.
Every rapist that has crossed the border. For instance Roman Polanski who gets mentionned quite frequently in this topic.
UK courts are quite troublesome and have proven so already. They have stopped the extradition for a child rapist because he could get life in the US...
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Bradley Manning is a traitor to his country, he knew what he was doing when he did it.
Assange? Guy is an egomaniac, and I wish he'd go face his charges head on.. running from them doesn't make me think better of him.
The "Collateral Murder" video showed Assange's true colors.. it's not about open access to info. He's just another political figure forcing his message with an agenda. Wikileaks lost credibility to me at that point.
Assange? Guy is an egomaniac, and I wish he'd go face his charges head on.. running from them doesn't make me think better of him.
The "Collateral Murder" video showed Assange's true colors.. it's not about open access to info. He's just another political figure forcing his message with an agenda. Wikileaks lost credibility to me at that point.
onken
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Do you seriously need reminding of the thousands upon thousands of incidents where governments all over the world have been proven to have committed all kinds of awful acts, but only years later after administrations change and documents become unclassified? The idea that we shouldn't even suspect government wrong-doing until solid evidence materializes is ridiculous.
When a country does terrible things, even your own, they should be exposed. Even if what he did was completely wrong America torturing and locking him away like they have is disgraceful.
The whole things sounds suspicious. I don't blame him for not wanting to go there. I'm not supporting him for rape, I'm supporting him by not wanting America to fuck him up because he exposed them and other countries for doing bad things.
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