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July Wrasslin |OT-15| Hybrids are Best for Business
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JesseEwiak
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Zach Gowen. More or less believable than Daniel Bryan in a match with Brock Lesnar?
Fox Mulder
Member
just wait until September or so when the first 6 months is up.
StylesClash
Member
Well if TNA is done there goes my chance of ever telling Velvet Sky we were born on the exact same day. She's the only person I know born the same date and year as me. I know she will be heartbroken not to learn this.
Side note: I also share a birthday with AJ Styles.
Side note: I also share a birthday with AJ Styles.
avengers23
Banned
Holy shut 2 Tuff Tony is still alive/wrestling?
JesseEwiak
Member
Don't worry, just find the Hooter's she starts working at after Bubba dumps her.
StylesClash
Member
Bubba? For real or for wrestling? Anyways apparently Orton has major heat for not making the golden boy look good at house shows.
Officerrob
Banned
Making Reigns look good in a one on one match is going to be no easy task
Your avatar could do it.
bean breath
Member
Vince's promos against Gowen were straight magic. It might be my favorite era of Vince.
You gonna cry, Zach? Huh? Because your dreams went up in smoke, Zach? GET OUT OF MY RING! YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE IN MY RING! YOU NEVER DESERVED TO BE IN MY RING! I NEED ATHLETES IN HERE! NOT SOME FREAK!
Vince was pure magic in that 'feud'. 2003 Vince > 1997-1999 Vince
Hmmm, this seems like something I'd like to watch, let's boot up the WWE Network.
Let's see, search, Zach Gowan. No results.
Ok. Search, Vince McMahon. 13+ pages of results in seemingly no order with no way to filter them.
Great. Amazing service.
Let's try YouTube. For free.
'Vince McMahon Zach Gowan Promo'.
Hey, what do you know.
Officerrob
Banned
Orton is no Bret Hart
hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me out. I'm looking for a Raw in the '90s were McMahon came out at the beginning of the show and told the crowd that Mark Calaway had gone insane and thought he was the Undertaker and asked Stone Cold for help. I remember the moment pretty clearly, but if someone can tell me a precise date and even have a video, I would appreciate it. It's for an essay I'm writing about wrestling.
Macho Madness
Member
I whipped up a quick little article on it with my thoughts: http://thewesker.com/tna-impact-wrestling-cancelled-spike-mean/
Essentially, I don't care too much but I sympathize with those who liked TNA.
Essentially, I don't care too much but I sympathize with those who liked TNA.
StylesClash
Member
It's even crazier that all their shows are taped for a few months. So when they do go back they know it's the end.
Even crazier is that next week they are scheduled to tape the shows that would almost bring them up to BFG.
With the upcoming tapings, the pressure is on for them to produce the highest quality they can, as they'll need to put themselves in the shop window to the networks...
Best of luck, TNA.
Can't see Vince's shopping list being particularly long. ROH, on the other hand - Joe and Aries returning could be huge for them.
Best of luck, TNA.
Can't see Vince's shopping list being particularly long. ROH, on the other hand - Joe and Aries returning could be huge for them.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Well, I can't agree with this. They rose from being a weekly-PPV company, to earning a national TV deal and helped put across some of the best talent in North America. 2003-2006 were pretty great years for TNA. Sure they might not have beat WWE in the ratings, but it'd be a shame if the good TNA did do is just forgotten about it because it's cool to hate.
He's kind of the worst pandering face ever. I love his matches recently though so at least that hasn't fallen off and his last heel run bungied from hilarious to frightening in an odd but pleasant way.
JesseEwiak
Member
...and by "helped", you mean put them on TV? Because it's not like there was any good long-term storyline in TNA history that got people over as stars. Especially at the main event level. Sure, there were good matches that'll rate well in ten years when everybody has forgotten about the angle, but this idea TNA was consistently good for any period of time longer than a few months is kind of silly. Even lately, when they had their run a year or so back, the Claire Lynch angle torpedoed everything.
Hell, AJ Style's last six months in Japan has probably done more for him than the majority of his run in TNA.
Timed his move perfectly. Did a few indy shows to keep things ticking over, and then propelled himself straight into the big time in Japan, where he's having some great matches. He knows he's coming towards the end of his career, and the E won't touch him as an active performer (perhaps as a trainer in the future) - the guy has landed on his feet.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Do you think their profiles would have increased if they weren't putting on those great matches on TV? I was vaguly aware of AJ and Christopher Daniels before TNA, I had no idea who Samoa Joe was. Yet the series of matches those three had against each other in one form or another must have done some good for their careers.
Joe's undefeated streak was pretty great too.
JesseEwiak
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From what I've heard/read, the guy doesn't want a WWE training gig. He wants to open a amateur wrestling school in his area and just go from there. Considering he lives in the outer outer exurbs/rural outlying parts of Atlanta where housing can't be too expensive, he's probably fine as far as money goes. Work four or five more years, open your wrestling school, and that's a good life.
JesseEwiak
Member
Christopher Daniels wrestled in Japan, Ring of Honor ,and other big indies before/in the early days of TNA. After TNA, Christopher Daniels is wrestling in Japan, Ring of Honor, and other big indies.
Yes, the exposure helped them. But, much less than being on national TV for ten years should. The fact they were on TV should not be a giant plus sign for TNA in the long-term. The fact they were on TV for ten years and are still largely unknown (compared to say, people who were in WCW for ten years) should actually be a huge minus for TNA.
British Monsoon
Member
I wonder what Aries is going to do, he never made much impact in Japan and, iirc, didn't leave ROH on great terms. Perhaps Mutoh will bring in some of the TNA guys on a more regular basis - Rob Terry actually got over surprisingly well in W-1 as a babyface.
He was a fun heel at least. Not sure too much on his current run, thought he was just being like that because they were in New York.
PHOENIXZERO
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So, the moment you all have been waiting for, Buff is apparently going to do porn.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/28/buff-bagwell-porn-deal-vivid-gigolos-wwe/
Creeps me out that he married a woman with the same name as his mother... Yet it makes so much sense.
Joe's body has always held him back, if he had a better physique he would've been signed a long time ago and his being friends with various guys (primarily Cena and Punk) would've propelled him a fair bit.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/28/buff-bagwell-porn-deal-vivid-gigolos-wwe/
Creeps me out that he married a woman with the same name as his mother... Yet it makes so much sense.
Joe's body has always held him back, if he had a better physique he would've been signed a long time ago and his being friends with various guys (primarily Cena and Punk) would've propelled him a fair bit.
Mr. Luchador
Member
If that's the way you want to see it, fine. But these are/were wrestlers the WWE rarely if ever showed an interest in signing. When they did sign a few TNA stars they used them just as poorly as TNA did (Kazarian), if not worse.
TNA for the most part was the only 'free' wrestling people in the UK would get too, so I bet the profile of those wrestlers increased a LOT more than it would have if they had stuck with any of the North American indies - which get next to no coverage in the UK.
I just seems people want to forget whatever good times, and good deeds TNA did in the earlier years due to all the crap that happened in the later years. Strangely, this is the entire WCW Comparison again. All those great moments in the early 90s tarnished by all the crap in the late 90s/early 00s. Even the majority of the WCW guys who were on TV for 10 years didn't do much better once WCW folded, outside the ones who were already household names due to being in the WWF and NWA before hand.
Like I said earlier from what I remember 2003-2006 were pretty strong years for TNA. When was the last time the WWE had 3 good years of entertainment?
America's Most Wanted
Team Canada
World X-Cup
The X-Division
The 3-Ways between AJ, Daniels & Joe
Shark Boy
Strong Women's Division
Jay Lethal's 'Macho Man' gimmick
JesseEwiak
Member
I can find seven random good things about the WWE in the past three years, and there have been a lot more good matches in that time period than there were in TNA (no, one or two good X Division matches a month don't make up for shitty Jarrett main events).
TNA was still not great in '03-06, they just seem better because everything else TNA has done since then.
2005 was fucking incredible.
No, the first 6 sided era was genuinely good entertainment. Not comparatively or any other qualification, just damn good fun.
Much like WCW, I don't care if the main event is a let down if the undercard rules.
TNA killed TNA. Blame the dumb cunts who run TNA not the wrestling community.
TNA being unable to run a company has little bearing on whether or not people act like assholes about it.
Yep, they had some amazing talent over the years and have done shit all with it. The last few years it seems like it was just on live support using not that great guys with even more shitty booking.
Mr. Luchador
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I'm not defending the crap that happened, not at all, but I just find it odd that people are acting as if the entire run of TNA was one big shitfest and did nothing for the wrestlers involved.
I stopped watching TNA short after Joe v Angle III as I just wasn't enjoying it anymore, and from the brief interest I've shown now and again since then it never really improved. I think everyone saw the writing was on the wall when Hogan and Bischoff came in, so yeah if they don't find a new TV Deal TNA Killed TNA with their bad booking decisions and ultimately somehow annoying their one Champion in SpikeTV.
I stopped watching TNA short after Joe v Angle III as I just wasn't enjoying it anymore, and from the brief interest I've shown now and again since then it never really improved. I think everyone saw the writing was on the wall when Hogan and Bischoff came in, so yeah if they don't find a new TV Deal TNA Killed TNA with their bad booking decisions and ultimately somehow annoying their one Champion in SpikeTV.
It's like being mad that the people don't feel bad for the guy working at Blockbuster during the last week of Blockbuster. If you didn't plan for the closing down of TNA months ago, it's your own fault for having such short-term vision. Not our fault people plugged their fingers in their ears and said, 'lalala not happening.' It's probably why this happened to TNA in the first place. No one can read the writing on the walls.
'Acting like an asshole' is telling a young kid you've got a job for life when he breaks his neck on your show and then footing him with the bill and firing his ass. That's 'acting like an asshole.'
Amen.
TNA had plenty of opportunities to push for bigger and better things, to continue the good work they did in 05/06. But for every Matt Morgan borderline push, there's a Jeff Hardy meltdown. For every Austin Aries win, there's a James Storm / Bobby Roode "not ready yet" moment. For every awesome Joe match, there's... Joe being kidnapped. And for every Bully Ray plotline reveal, there's Dixie in a beard.
Well I don't think it's been announced announced, but enough sources have "confirmed" it now.