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there's the usual recall sweeping generalizations again
Keyser Soze
Member
I dont know if this is true for RAW, but Murray Walker (Formula 1 commentator) stood for years whilst doing his work. It 100% lets you emote better and seem more invested in what you are doing. Walker commented on sports for almost 50 years, and worked into his late 70s still standing to commentate.
I thought everyone knew Finn was basically NXT Roman.
Did I miss interpret the last 3 pages of this very thread? I'm fine with being proven wrong.
Could you please apply even a modicum of context?
serenewarfare
Banned
Finn is great. Roman lately has been great. Both deserve good things to happen to them, but for tonight Finn winning is the right move. Roman, for all intents and purposes, is Teflon. The fans dislike him and will no matter what. Finn is a new guy who is now immediately established as one of the three or four top guys in the whole company. We get on WWE all the goddamn time for not making stars, and tonight they did everything they possibly could to make one.
did roman have a single great singles match before he won the 2015 rumble?
Puck Beaverton
Banned
If Balor wins the belt without Club shenanigans then people have the right to bitch.
I imagine there's a lot of crossover of Finn fans and Owens/Cesaro/Zayn fans who are happy to see any of them getting that kind of push.
Chosen one? Last I checked he didn't have a title run as a single competitor(Ambrose), and he didn't get to star in the single most memorable moment of the Shield when they broke up (Rollins). But keep imagining the Shield was all about Roman.
This reaction to Balor getting that main event rub on Day One proves the IWC was full of shit on the Roman Reigns not earning it thing.
Professor Beef
Banned
No he didn't.
I'm pretty sure the guys in the back would've been more pissed if Roman won again after blowing his forced (for months, btw) push by being an idiot.
Finn Balor was a majorly over babyface in NXT carried WWEs second brand for months and helped make it a touring promotion. Not to mention that he made himself by getting over all across the world and while never winning the IWGP Heavyweight title, was one of the most successful gajins in NJPW history. He even founded what (for a time) was a highly successful, modern NWO successor. Finn being "hotshotted" into the main event is like AJ Styles debuting at the Rumble and getting main event feuds from day one. It grows business and shows on some level that being a good worker can take you where you want to go.
So those last 2 years of people complaining were for nothing?
Balor started wrestling in 2000.
Reigns started wrestling in 2010.
You tell me who hasn't earned anything compared to who.
90% of that backlash has nothing to do with Reigns anyways, it's about D-Bry.
Sparkedglory
Member
I come home and see that Sasha is the new champ? My night is made!
Professor Beef
Banned
Yes.
After I got over my pride I had to admit that the dude does put on good matches. Whether you wanna argue that AJ, Rollins or someone else was carrying him is a different story. But he does seem to be involved in good matches.
Bluekaveli
Member
Jimmy isn't always that lucky. Save your money sonny.
You should watch the match. May be a MOTY candidate.
serenewarfare
Banned
If you had told me before Raw that I'd enjoy a Strowman segment, I'd have wondered why. That jobber was fantastic.
That seems like a purposeful false equivalency just to try and debunk his point.
That seems like a purposeful false equivalency just to try and debunk his point.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Vince didn't have the grapefruits to give Goldust the title when he was hot in the mid 90s.
but when he won the rumble in 2015, which is when everyone turned on him, he had yet to have a single great singles match. he had a bunch of great 6 man tags, but it seems most fans credit rollins and ambrose for those mtches.
you can't be THE GUY when you haven't proven yourself as a singles wrestler. like... at all. that's fucking ridiculous. all those good matches he had after the 2015 rumble? those should have happened BEFORE the 2015 rumble. then maybe the fans wouldn't have shit on him so hard.
Kane can have the Smackdown one.
If they get Al Snow in the door he can beat both of them and unify the belt as he is one of the longest tenured current wrestlers. Or Terry Funk.
Bluekaveli
Member
Aww, that's the only time Bayley will be able to celebrate that title.
MisterR
Member
Yep. It hasn't ever been about Reigns. It's always been about the Indy favorites not getting hi is push. All the bitching has mostly been justification of that.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I'm curious what's the reason for the women's title change on Raw. I mean, everyone and their mother knew Sasha was gonna get it come Summerslam, but having it done on Raw is as interesting as it is confusing. My guess is it was done to give Raw an edge?
So Charlotte can win it back at Summerslam and they can eventually call Charlotte a 14 time womens champion
They basically wanted to blow the door off of this Raw.
Professor Beef
Banned
i will reign supreme
UberTag
Member
I'm sure the reaction tonight would have even been more favorable had they strapped the rocket to Sami Zayn after being involved in the three best non-women's matches in the WWE this year... but hey, we can't have everything.
Perhaps if Sami had something equivalent to face and body paint that he could dress up in for special matches and market to kids. Like say, oh I don't know... a mask, for instance.
serenewarfare
Banned
It's either that or they have a feud they want for Sasha post-SS and they want to get the contractual rematch out of the way.
Now we're propping up Ambrose having the most worthless singles title in the company which was defended about twice as some kind of major rub.
The Shield was not that long ago. How short do you think people's memories are?
Ready 2 Rumble has the same level of nonsensical kayfabe/shoot barriers that WWE has now.
Like sometimes it's a shoot but sometimes it's not? DDP is shooting on Jimmy King but Jimmy King is letting him do suplexes to him? A pin from an unemployed former wrestler backstage on the champion in a non-title match makes him the champion? or something?
Like sometimes it's a shoot but sometimes it's not? DDP is shooting on Jimmy King but Jimmy King is letting him do suplexes to him? A pin from an unemployed former wrestler backstage on the champion in a non-title match makes him the champion? or something?
Professor Beef
Banned
In this day and age? Very short.
The pin didn't count backstage, they were very specific about that.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Do you think if a wrestler gets into a shoot fight, like out in a bar or something, they instinctively slap their thigh when they kick someone?
If their name is Dolph Ziggler, yes.
There's no xboxes or smart phones in bars
Bluekaveli
Member
It's OK, I still love you
Remember when Eddie won it at NWO? Fuck Goldberg & Brock, Eddie beating Brock only to have that celebration at the end of the night with Benny would've been soooo much better.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Stop standing in the way of Kane's deserved title reign then. He started wrestling before both, has better entrances, and didn't test positive
He's already had numerous title reigns.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Yes. They also stomp the ground with each punch.
hey
I wouldn't be opposed to kane as the wwe universal world heavyweight champion
in 2016