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July Wrasslin |OT| The Game, The Kane, The Pain, and The Insane (AJ)
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Net_Wrecker
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I just like picking on WCW to reopen that wound.
Plus they were stealing from E C Dub, eff em.
I'm rubbing my hands maniacally waiting for the Dwight trade. Lakers management is God tier.
They've also got Kane on the team.
That's OK, though, cause the Bulls are about to sign Kirk Hinrich. Yeah, you better be scared!
British Monsoon
Member
Yeah, it would be pretty insane - at least with Backlund you know you're getting awesome wrestling. Can't say the same of Cena - I think I'd be done with WWE for good if they put him on another super-lengthy title run.
Backlund was so damn awesome, and amazing he held the belt that long - Stan Hansen mentions in his book that the general perception of Backlund before his WWWF title run was that he couldn't draw and had no charisma, so it's amazing to see how long he held the belt - 763 days, in fact, before dropping it to Sheiky-baby. Backlund didn't even tap out, and his manager threw in the towel. What a boss.
Now, let's all appreciate the fact that Bob Backlund turns up in the strangest of places - here he is wrestling Daisuke Ikeda in shoot-style promotion BattlArts;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rbRTnftTE
I regrettably can't find his match with Yuki Ishikawa online anywhere - that one is awesome for one good reason, because while Ikeda works to Backlund's style, Ishikawa just starts hitting him with really stiff shots, busting Backlund open with a sick headbutt, only for Bob to repay him in kind.
There should never be another 1+ year long reign again. It's one thing during the old days where you seldom say wrestling, but so many hours of WWE programming a week, it becomes tiresome. Especially considering the the WWE style of wrestling. Plus, after the third or fourth opponent, you would know the schtick and it would grow old. I hated Cena's long reign and I especially hated HHH's long reign from 2002-2003 (that one month break where they gave it to HBK ignored).
Net_Wrecker
Member
WWE could pull off another insane long reign, but they'd have to have even the SLIGHTEST talent in making things feel special. I'm talking Undertaker levels of aura. Prime Samoa Joe kind of feeling. Japan is way better at this type of thing IMO. Everything in the WWE feels so boring that the magic would be gone after 8-10 months. Hell, CM Punk has been champ for going on 8 months and I don't think they've mentioned it ONE TIME.
Speaking of which I can't tell if we're NWO Hollywood or what. We have a face in Nash and if Grant Hill joins 2 faces. Its like you have to hate the Lakers but you can't lol.
I believe they mentioned how he's close to overtaking one of HBK's long reign this past Monday. I'm just going to be honest, I've never liked any of the WWE's long reigns over the past decade, with the POSSIBLE exception of JBL's reign, but that's because they sort of kept things fresh.
HHH's long 2002-2003 reign was horribly booked, imo, and it ended up burying so many people in the process.
Kobe's pretty smug, just like Jeter.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Did they? Huh. I should probably be careful throwing around statements like that since I FFx4 through the shows, but everything else still stands. One time a year they make things feel special at Wrestlemania, and maybe a fluke MITB 2011 situation, but other than that they are terrible at building anything IMO. It's only natural that longer title reigns end up being boring and worthless.
Part of the issue is overexposure. Too many hours of TV, and guys wresting every week. Look at Bobby Roode, when's the last time he fought on Impact? 3, 4 weeks ago? Meanwhile Punk is fighting Bryan every show, Sheamus has beaten Ziggler 687 times in the last month, John Cena's in your face ALL the time, etc. This stems from the undercard being underused. It's a viscous cycle of dumb decisions.
Mmhmm, NFL has one of those.
And that's exactly why I don't feel like long WWE reigns work in this day and age. Things become too predictable, too safe, and the champion becomes too uninteresting.
IdreamofHIME
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Um, they do mention it? A month or so ago they listed all the people he's knocked off since November, a few weeks back they said he had the 4th longest reign in the past 15 years and on Monday they said he'll pass HBK's reign this week.
I barely realized your av is Bo
Legendary, you're avatar gets 5 Stars.
BO jackson is the hero of Tecmo Super Bowl
Net_Wrecker
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Yeah, in my last post I mentioned how I watch the show and that I will miss details like that. My fault for throwing it out there, but that's a minor point. Punk doesn't COME OFF like a guy who's been champ for near 8 months. If you told me he just got the belt a week ago I'd believe you. He's in a dumb angle with a "girl" making him look like a chump. 8 month long WWE Title holders shouldn't be used like he's been in angles like this, and should be treated like a big deal.
As the company is currently, no it wouldn't work. But it COULD work if they used the roster and gave the audience time to breathe and build anticipation.
Sonnen vs. Silva II, @ UFC 148 on Saturday for example. This fight is 2 years in the making with a guy who's been champ for 6 YEARS and I'm HYPE. Way more hyped than anything in The 'E since Punk vs. Cena MITB 2011. Obviously it's not 100% the same, we'd never have a 6 year reign, etc., etc., but you're telling me that wrestling can't do reigns and build like that? I don't believe it. One's real, one's scripted, but the art of building guys and events is the same.
Do you have a link for this?
IC_Champion
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Look what I found:
What is wrong with him?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
1 Agumon is better than 1 Renamon let alone 2 Agumen.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
You know it sucks for those Colorado Springs WWE fans to have to suffer the mass evacuations, the hundreds of homes destroyed, the two deaths, and the loss of WWE Smackdown because the Olympic Center was part of the evacuation and is also probably part of the relief shelters for the guys that lost their homes.
But man am I pumped as a Denverite for the two for one deal I get for my first ever WWE live show. Is that so bad?
I've been practicing my Yes's all week long.
But man am I pumped as a Denverite for the two for one deal I get for my first ever WWE live show. Is that so bad?
I've been practicing my Yes's all week long.
Who cares about dumb pokemon?
Keyser Soze
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Bye. I am going out now. See you guys later
#besexy
#besexy
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
WELCOME TO JULY
THE START OF THE EARL AND MADISON ALLIANCE ON TV
UNLIKE AJ WHOS A BAD COPY
MADISON HAS BEEN KISSING EARL FOR YEARS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ6SqMHOaq4
Mr. Enigma
Member
awesomewho is this??
The Undertaker.
It's almost as if there's a sensical middle ground that makes wrestling exciting...
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
no way hahaha
I don't think the issue is the length of a reign though. I mean if a month is too short and people were already complaining about Punk's reign like five month's in then I guess the perfect reign would be like 3 months?
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
god damn it
I totally forgot. Last Friday AJ Styles and Rosita was on a radio show and the host brought up how stupid the druggie storyline was and compared it to the ninjas kidnapping SamoaN Joe a few years ago. AJ said that once the whole druggie story is played out, it will make sense and the Joe kidnapping thing would have a resolution.
I'm watching Impact off my slingbox since I was flying to Vegas. The backstage stuff seems like it was heavily edited. The commercial skip is borked :\
holy shit
did Crimson just lose to a shitty version of his own finisher?!?! THE FUCK
they built up a nearly 2 year undefeated streak only to lose 2 times in a row..the first time I'm ok with but he lost to D-Von in a meaningless match O_O
Torn pec, out six months. Unless you were making a joke there...
Keyser Soze
Member
You make me sad.
Exactly put him as a manager of The Bayou Brothers(first WWE need to create that tag team).
Plus, he wrote on twitter:
What does a torn pecroral muscle mean to me? I wiil not waste my time with injuries of the flesh When my brain continues captivate the attention of the masses. #theAshesOurNewHome. As for NXT, I wont be missing a second
See, it'll work out, there's already 5 more weeks already taped.
What does a torn pecroral muscle mean to me? I wiil not waste my time with injuries of the flesh When my brain continues captivate the attention of the masses. #theAshesOurNewHome. As for NXT, I wont be missing a second
See, it'll work out, there's already 5 more weeks already taped.
Staying positive never works out. So I will never be positive EYVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AHGAIN.
Yeah, I'm more of a glass half full kinda guy.
Besides, with Impact being sorta good (minus the crack baby storyline), AJ being on TV loads, Punk and Bryan for the past 3 months, I'm in a rather positive wrestling place.
UberTag
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CM Punk comes off as a guy who's been champ for so long as a fluke due to Cena being distracted with authority figures and the entire heel side of the roster being booked like jokes and plagued with injuries.
His matches (some of which have been technically impressive) have never closed a show and one has the distinct impression that if he had a straight one-on-one match for the title against Cena, Orton, Undertaker, Triple H, The Big Show or even Sheamus that he would lose. He's lost semi-clean to Tensai and didn't even log a decisive win against Mark Henry. In short, he comes off as a guy who talks a big game without the credibility to back it up. Almost like most heels.
It's a title reign notable for its length but doesn't seem like it will be one that elevates Phil Brooks in the history books any more than his first four title reigns did.
The world effectively stops when Silva and Sonnen square off in the octagon this Saturday.
When CM Punk wrestles, people are too busy peering off to the entrance to see if AJ will interfere or chanting Randy Savage when he does his silly top rope elbow drop to bother investing in whether Punk's title reign is in jeopardy. The GTS hasn't been put over. The belt hasn't been put over. CM Punk hasn't put himself over. And he largely hasn't put over his opposition in the ring, either... with the rare exception of him and D.Brine getting into a zone like they did on Smackdown TV or at Over the Limit.