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June Wrasslin' |OT| Break Out Naan And Do The Needful, It's Time For MaharaJEEEEEZUSS
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slightconfuse
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Does Gran metalik have an anti-booking force Field?
Guy has been missed by cmll, njpw and wwe
Guy has been missed by cmll, njpw and wwe
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Which is pretty baffling, as post-WCW and ECW going under showed, fans who bail on WWE are more likely to just bail on wrestling entirely
Those eyes didn't go to the debuting TNA or ROH, they just went away period. And that's a trend that's continued since. People who flee WWE, that million viewers (the decline from 3+ mil regular Raw watchers to barely over 2 mil)
WWE and their diehards can only ignore a problem for so long: Either stop actively killing people's interest in the whole industry (not just your own product), or realize that's what you're doing.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
We getting Fire Pro this month right? Right?!
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I think the difference between then and now is it's far easier for fans to get into other feds due to so many OTT services. I still agree with you that fans who bail WWE likely bail on wrestling entirely, but with there being no shortage of ways to access other feds I can't imagine they all bail
This happened to me. Even when WWE, WCW, ECW all them were still relevant I'd remember hearing about NJPW but would never try and venture out. Also my age and access had something to do with that.
Now that I'm here and watching more indy promotions than WWE I feel like I missed some great stuff when I abandoned wrestling altogether early 2000's
TarpitCarnivore
Member
My point is you don't need the UK championship to see that match. There isn't even any actual UK storylines, just random match ups.
Some of you have it out to defend BDD....
Some of you have it out to defend BDD....
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I'd like to think not given he ate the pin in the triple threat already but it's Bray so yeah.
Brock isn't going to do any match that requires effort and skill regardless.
Nocturnowl
Member
Joey Samoey
Watch him flounder as WWE have no plans for him, even Bray probably has a future jobbing plan to adhere to.
The key turning point in my #5years PREMONITION:
COLD DAY IN HELL 2019
TV deal comes up
Raw ratings are in the low-mid 1s
Whether WWE stays with USA or not, they get a SIGNIFICANT cut in their TV deal.
This will result in 1 of 2 things:
1. WWE actually smartens up, Vince steps down, and they seriously re-evaluate the presentation of the product. Triple H takes over, storylines have a semblance of logic, booking makes sense... they are on the road to recovery.
Or, the FUTURE REFUSES TO CHANGE:
2. Massive budget cuts are required. WWE can no longer afford a massive Wrestlemania stage every year. Full time talent is cut like crazy in order to be able to afford part time talent like Rock, Cena, Goldberg and Brock. No talent nobodies that never drew a dime like Gran Metallic, Sami Zayn, American Alpha and Shinsuke Nakamura are cut, among many others.
The entire NXT program, which has been bleeding money since day 1, is completely shut down. But Vince, the future? FUCK THE FUTURE, I NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE NOW!
At around this time, Daniel Bryan's contract comes up and he heads to New Japan to wrestle. CM Punk decides to head there as well as a big "Fuck you" to WWE. All of the talent that was let go from WWE also head to New Japan, which has been steadily creating a larger and larger fanbase in the West.
COLD DAY IN HELL 2019
TV deal comes up
Raw ratings are in the low-mid 1s
Whether WWE stays with USA or not, they get a SIGNIFICANT cut in their TV deal.
This will result in 1 of 2 things:
1. WWE actually smartens up, Vince steps down, and they seriously re-evaluate the presentation of the product. Triple H takes over, storylines have a semblance of logic, booking makes sense... they are on the road to recovery.
Or, the FUTURE REFUSES TO CHANGE:
2. Massive budget cuts are required. WWE can no longer afford a massive Wrestlemania stage every year. Full time talent is cut like crazy in order to be able to afford part time talent like Rock, Cena, Goldberg and Brock. No talent nobodies that never drew a dime like Gran Metallic, Sami Zayn, American Alpha and Shinsuke Nakamura are cut, among many others.
The entire NXT program, which has been bleeding money since day 1, is completely shut down. But Vince, the future? FUCK THE FUTURE, I NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE NOW!
At around this time, Daniel Bryan's contract comes up and he heads to New Japan to wrestle. CM Punk decides to head there as well as a big "Fuck you" to WWE. All of the talent that was let go from WWE also head to New Japan, which has been steadily creating a larger and larger fanbase in the West.
JesseEwiak
Member
Yes, New Japan is getting so popular they're almost at 2% of WWEs numbers when it comes to US subscribers of New Japan World.
Here's the truth - even if the WWE does, New Japan will be nothing more than a weeaboo thing in America. Period.
Tom Nook
Member
He's in the match for a reason.
JesseEwiak
Member
Their total revenue last year was $32 million. Profit was 4 million.
newdayrocks
Member
Had fourth-row presale tickets to NXT Portland in my shopping cart, but then realized I had no interest in seeing Roode or AOP live, so just closed the tab.
Just garbage.
Just garbage.
spindashing
Banned
He answered that question as he should though? lol
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I was following you up until this point. I don't think HHH is this booking savior some think he is. I think he'll do better and put up more compelling stuff, but I feel like they need someone not tied to the McMahons to run the in-ring product.
He's not, but he's better at it than Vince is, and the bonus upside is that he wouldn't be as stubborn as Vince is when it comes to other people having say.
The additional hidden bonus here is that Dunn would likely be gone too
Yeah he wouldn't be a saviour, but with Vince/Dunn out of the picture, things would look a LOT better imo.
Look no further than NXT/CWC compared to Raw/205live
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Something something Vince dead something something doofus son in law.
Yep, NXT even with the huge losses to the roster it's had in the last year and a half has still managed to be generally a better product than main roster Raw. Admittedly part of that is that it doesn't need to fill a 3 hour program every week, but on the flipside Raw's problem isn't necessarily that its 3 hours long its that the stories they put in the 3 hour long show aren't any good
But it makes​ no money.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I'll forever maintain that how he does with 2-2.5 hours of content maximum a week is far from a good indicator that he'll achieve the same quality expanded to over 10 hours a week
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Honestly weekly NXT isn't very good at all. But Takeover is always legit.
Remember NXT's head writer when the weekly show was good is now on Smackdown.
Which is why Smackdown pre-shakeup was actually watchable. Now it seems like Vince has a more active role in the show.
Of course 1 hour of NXT won't transfer to 5 hours of Raw + Smackdown... but it would still be better. No doubt. Raw and Smackdown are the drizzling shits right now.
Vince has always been active in smackdown booking.
It's also widely known he's less hands on with Smackdown than Raw*
*Until Smackdown's ratings start getting close to Raws
I know but since the shake up it's felt more dumb.
Like Vince Mcmahon auteur dumb. That patented Vince Mcmahon garbage booking/writing.
Haitch will keep signing indie stars in his crowded '''''''''''''''''''''''promotion''''''''''''''''''''''''''' so he can tkae pictures and be praised as the messiah by reddit from people who dont like indie wrestling but want to feel like NXT is an alternative and sticking it to the WWE
Smackdown booking has never been particularly good it was that AJ styles is beyond bad booking.
I bet they wish he could. I don't even watch Smackdown Shoot Live anymore.
UrbanDandy
Member
What is the context behind this?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Vince has always been active in SD and its booking, people just didn't pay attention because Styles had the belt. Now that he's not even in the picture and losing more often it's far more noticeable
DB is going to working the Tokyo dome soon.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
They're already at TNA's highest rating ever, it would just be falling to regular levels
I think Meltz said only one Nitro was lower than Raw this week.
