I don't think it was due to being lazy so much as 10 years ago, work rate didn't mean anywhere near as much as it does now.
Cesaro is basically the equivalent of Shelton right now. Except less athletic, but much better in the ring.
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I don't think it was due to being lazy so much as 10 years ago, work rate didn't mean anywhere near as much as it does now.
Cesaro is basically the equivalent of Shelton right now. Except less athletic, but much better in the ring.
Nakamura definitely isn't lazy...
Also doesn't need a belt to be great. But fuck me if he gets the IC or US strap, dat 50/50 booking from Vince...
Also just watched Rollins bury Reigns. Good job.
He phones in his tv matches. I don't have a problem with it, I'd rather him put it all out there for Takeovers (and beyond) and just come out and do his finisher on jobbers on TV.
It's ridiculous how good the average match on tv is now.
Jimmy King
Member
Just watched that New Day/Wyatt segment and it seems like a cool angle. Even though I think Kofi and Big E treating them like the jokes they are and will forever be is the right way to go, Xavier being scared is interesting, not so much because it makes the Wyatts looks scary (impossible, as I said they are jokes) but because it adds a much needed dimension to New Day.
Can't believe Bray is back to being a heel. He was almost interesting.
Can't believe Bray is back to being a heel. He was almost interesting.
Professor Beef
Banned
Expectations have changed in the last...what, 8 years? Plus he's not on the main roster.
How's that?
There was just no upward mobility for the guy whether he put on good matches or not at the time. So no real reason for him to go all out on TV.
These days though. If you continually put on good matches, the crowd will actually get behind you a fair bit.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
8 years is being way too generous. Putting on good matches on free TV has been the expectation since the Monday night wars.
Professor Beef
Banned
Too bad Shelton never got that memo.
UberTag
Member
I would argue that Shelton didn't regress into being lazy until after he hit his head on the glass ceiling a handful of times.
British Monsoon
Member
Shelton's probably in the best form of his career at the moment, if WWE want to bring him back now is definitely the time. He could kill it with the likes of AJ.
What you're saying is true of every era, though.
So many people have upped their game by going to one of the Japanese promotions. I like the fact that NJPW send their young'uns overseas too. Not sure how the 'E could ever do something like that ("here, have one of our cast-offs for whom our creative team have nothing for"), but so many of the current roster would be better off for getting beaten in Japan.
British Monsoon
Member
I doubt it's something WWE would ever institute, but I can see it benefiting wrestlers who take the initiative to leave and gain experience on their own. Seems to be working for Juice Robinson/CJ Parker.
British Monsoon
Member
Welp, Hama, TAJIRI, Minoru Tanaka, Nakanoue and AKIRA have all quit W-1. Wonder where they'll end up...wouldn't mind Tanaka back in NJPW at all.
new carny of the year nominee
http://411mania.com/wrestling/first-names-announced-for-wrestlecon-2017/
I'm not sure what's worse... wrestlecon hiring somebody who is undergoing a murder charge, Snuka claiming he isn't for to stand trial but he's taking public appearances, or if Snuka isn't mentally there his family using him.
http://411mania.com/wrestling/first-names-announced-for-wrestlecon-2017/
I'm not sure what's worse... wrestlecon hiring somebody who is undergoing a murder charge, Snuka claiming he isn't for to stand trial but he's taking public appearances, or if Snuka isn't mentally there his family using him.
buncha CHAOS marks in Osaka
Paying for an Outback Jack autograph is arguably up there on the list.
slightconfuse
Banned
So it sounds
is done with LU. Lost a retirement match
And
is now the champ.
riccochet
And
pentagon
This was in Korakuen yesterday!
buncha CHAOS marks in Korakuen then
British Monsoon
Member
And they very loudly cheered Naito over Okada.
YOSHI-HASHI's on the up, get with the program
YOSHI-HASHI's on the up, get with the program
That's cool and all, but like always, all they talk about is how cool wrestling used to be in the late 90's and early 00's. Not a single word on the current product.
But it's a nice gesture from WWE to make that custom belt. And it looks expensive as hell
Probably UK only but there's a show on BBC iplayer where radio 1 DJ Greg James goes behind the scenes of the wwe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03w4vty/superstar-wrestlers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03w4vty/superstar-wrestlers
They started sending out those belts last year hoping for PR like this, can't believe that actually worked. I think Triple H did this, he's a PR genius. Might as well give Steph's job to him, he's already taken her job at creative anyways.
Xavier is playing the "We shouldn't go in there" guy in horror movies. I like that a lot.
Meanwhile he had the smoking skull belt on the flight.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I agree here 100%. Gallows and Anderson look like the most generic, boring wrestlers. Gallows especially looks out of place, slow and just boring as hell. Anderson looks like someone you'd make in 'create-a-wrestler'. neither of them have any charisma or anything. Just boring as f.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
The Social outcasts are great and I'm so happy to see this turn into something a little more.
Enzo & Cass are just getting more and more corny. Getting fans to do the wave, really? Worst thing in sporting ever. They also need to get better with the SAWFT delivery. It just feels so forced at this point.
Enzo & Cass are just getting more and more corny. Getting fans to do the wave, really? Worst thing in sporting ever. They also need to get better with the SAWFT delivery. It just feels so forced at this point.
Was in the Dominion crowd live and can confirm they went nuts for Yoshi-Hashi. I'm still not seeing it personally. Pissed I got deprived of seeing Honma live in favor of him.
sf2fanatic
Member
Brain Busters 2.0?
Uuuhhh... what?
Anderson could use a better gear but his "Man, I'm sorry" last week were hilarious so I can't hate the guy
The more things change...
newdayrocks
Member
Whoa. Are these from new S3 tapings? Last I'd heard,
Sexy Star
Nocturnowl
Member
Raw earns an 8/10 just for having THE DEMON Kane on it as the mystery opponent quashing ridiculous hopes from silly people that their favourite Indy darling would turn up in the big leagues randomly to win the IC title.
They need to get on Kane's level and I look forward to seeing where the Kane cycle goes from here.
We could go wacky tag team with Miz or perhaps another addition to Kane's harem with Maryse, I for one am very excite.
Shook Xavier was also good, not just because of the use of shook from Bray but because someone's actually selling the Wyatt family as something to be feared, he's taking one for the team.
They need to get on Kane's level and I look forward to seeing where the Kane cycle goes from here.
We could go wacky tag team with Miz or perhaps another addition to Kane's harem with Maryse, I for one am very excite.
Shook Xavier was also good, not just because of the use of shook from Bray but because someone's actually selling the Wyatt family as something to be feared, he's taking one for the team.
That reign lasted an episode at most.
Vader WAS UWFI champ at the time. Now he's just a washed up fat piece of shit.
