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[avengers23]

Rikidozan's era was a lot different than the 80s and 90s because it was still close to the events of WW2. That stuff's as dated as stuff like The Orient Express. Jumbo wasn't rolling through evil Americans. Dr Death, Hansen, Brody, and the likes weren't playing evil American heels.

I mean, you do know how over American boy Terry Funk was in Japan in the 80s, right?

And how Vader's heel heat came 1) because he beat Inoki on his debut and 2) because he was a big, scary, strong foreigner?

Jumbo wasn't rolling through evil Americans because that's not how the companies booked by that point because the evil Americans idea had already been played out and because the guys they brought in (Brody, Hansen, Gordy, Williams, Road Warriors) didn't have those kind of gimmicks.

It's the same reason no foreigner's won the G1. It's not as on the nose as it was in Rikidozan's era, but it's still bubbling away under the surface.

 

[Ithil]

My only retort to this is:

I'd ask the person who unironically wore this design, and I'm sure there's at least one, to tell me anything about the US' role in WW1.

 

[Lightning Count]

Also not wrestling but Quinton "Rampage" Jackson was known for wearing stars and stripes shorts while fighting in Pride.

He was very popular in Japan from what I remember.

 

[British Monsoon]

The thing I want to know most in wrestling, and likely never will, are receipts for wrestlers in the 70s and 80s in Japan.

Specifically, I want to know how much guys like Mil Mascaras, Bruiser Brody, Andre , and Hogan and the like were making. I always hear about 'Andre money' from older guys of that era when they're talking about working Japan. But like, I wonder how much Mil made for example. Did he make as much as Hansen? More? Less? Hansen had a longer legacy there, but Mil was in it much earlier and was CRAZY over when he showed up. I saw two dudes getting in a fight in the audience over his entrance mask.

In Hansen's book he says he had a handshake agreement with Baba that lasted 20 years. His money increased year after year without any sort of negotiation and he was always very happy with his pay-offs. Have to assume he was being very well paid, especially as Baba had to convince him to jump ship from New Japan, which was what made Inoki alter his philosophy on gaijins and start offering contracts. Mascaras was likely paid just as well, he was always a big draw for AJPW.

 

[Mahonay]

Also not wrestling but Quinton "Rampage" Jackson was known for wearing stars and stripes shorts while fighting in Pride.

He is a gigantic asshole.

 

[imBask]

I'd ask the person who unironically wore this design to tell me anything about the US' role in WW1.

Colin from Kinda Funny has that shirt, but I really think it's irony because the guy is really good with history

 

[Data West]

Mil Mascaras gets a lot of flack in retrospect, but I'm a pretty big defender of his. He's not the best wrestler, but he's nowhere near bad and the idea that you have to be 'good enough to match your push' is stupid to me. He had the look in spades and he had a lot of charisma. He drew crowds everywhere he went, and that's what mattered.

But man watching his matches, there's one thing that's definitely true. If he's not winning the match, it ALWAYS ends in a DQ. Always. No matter what year, no matter what country. Mil is not doing the job, brother.

1984 - 85.3% winrate
1983 - 74.2% winrate
1982 - 91.3% winrate
1981 - 87.2% winrate

in 1986, of the 50 matches he had, he won 47 OF THEM

 

[Ithil]

You still had your part, though.

I mean, I could point to slavery being an American thing, but we Dutch had our part in that, so did the UK, Spain and France. We're all assholes here.

Hey, we didn't, we were too busy being kicked around for 800 years.

 

[Browny]

OK let's see what I do that is stereotypically Scottish.

I only wear kilts at weddings.
I eat haggis like once a year.
I am not a heavy drinker I stop after about two drinks.

Do you drink Irn Bru?
Do you eat deep fried Mars bars?

 

[Zach]

I can't believe the lack of Jim Duggan gifs in here right now.

 

[Lightning Count]

Do you drink Irn Bru?
Do you eat deep fried Mars bars?

Irn Bru occasionally - interesting side note, urban legend claims it to be a hangover cure.

Deep fried mars bar sounds disgusting, never had it and don't want to.

 

[FlammableD]

OK let's see what I do that is stereotypically Scottish.

I only wear kilts at weddings.
I eat haggis like once a year.
I am not a heavy drinker I stop after about two drinks.

I've never worn a kilt, I need an excuse. Don't want to risk finding out if I'm kilt material on my wedding day.

Deep Fried Mars Bar was wonderful, though I wouldn't want more than half at once.

As for Irn-Bru, there's a can on my desk in front of me as I type

 

[slightconfuse]

 

[Data West]

goddamn it man i asked you a question two pages back and you never responded! that is, like, so unpatriotic of you.

i didn't see it

Data West,

What are your thoughts on Cesaro.

Just curious.

he will always look like a goofball european tourist to me and i will never buy him as a serious contender. when he tried to be minoru suzuki he just came off looking like a total dork.

he's like swedish yoshi tatsu

 

[bjork]

I can't believe the lack of Jim Duggan gifs in here right now.

 

[RBH]

Reminded me of that old ass meme:

 

[Zach]

Thanks, bjork. You're a true patriot.

 

[Mahonay]

I can't believe the lack of Jim Duggan gifs in here right now.

 

[Data West]

I'd have made Cesaro a Super Strong Machine and given him a manager

 

[Browny]

I wondered how many Scottish wrestlers there are...

Grado
Drew

The fourth picture result was Sheamus...

Well done Google images.

 

[RBH]

I can't believe the lack of Jim Duggan gifs in here right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afNOqwJrT8s

 

[ANuclearError]

OK let's see what I do that is stereotypically Scottish.

I only wear kilts at weddings.
I eat haggis like once a year.
I am not a heavy drinker I stop after about two drinks.

Only wore a kilt when I was 8 years old, never had haggis, and I do drink from time to time. Irn Bru is the nectar of the gods also.

Need to watch the BOSJ finals later, sorta fell behind on it, but I'll just go straight to the finals now.

I wondered how many Scottish wrestlers there are...

Grado
Drew

The fourth picture result was Sheamus...

Well done Google images.

Don't forget the Highlanders. I'm still amazed they weren't billed from Glasgow or Edinburgh come to think of it.

 

[Data West]

I wondered how many Scottish wrestlers there are...

Grado
Drew

The fourth picture result was Sheamus...

Well done Google images.

Nikki Storm

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

Watching Raw. Cena just fucking BURIED AJ on the mic. Damn.

This feud is hot.

 

[Lightning Count]

Grado
Drew
Joe Coffey
The Highlanders
Kenny Williams

A whole bunch on the UK independent scene

 

[ANuclearError]

Oh, speaking of, Joe Hendry (Local Hero) had another video.

 

[Lightning Count]

Oh, speaking of, Joe Hendry (Local Hero) had another video.

How could I forget him, his version of wrecking ball was amazing.

 

[Lightning Count]

Jack Jester
Mark Coffey
Viper

 

[slightconfuse]

Lucha blog matches of the week including Carls Jr istico vs Macara Doroda

http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2016/06/07/new-video-releases-for-weekend-of-june-4-5/

 

[Data West]

Andre'll open this fucking pit up

 

[slightconfuse]

AMERICANS SHIELD YOUR EYES. THE PATRIOTISM IS TOO BLINDING

 

[Heroman]

Should I watch raw?

 

[Lightning Count]

Should I watch raw?

Might as well.

 

[DMczaf]

Brother Nero!!!

 

[slightconfuse]

Should I watch raw?

Cena and AJ shot on each other
Teddy long showed up

 

[Mahonay]

Brother Nero!!!

It's OVAH

 

[RBH]

:')

 

[Data West]

I like that Matt Hardy called John Cena a Brother Nero


We all have Brother Neros in our life.

 

[Zach]

Almost out of Nitros to watch on the Network... and that may be a good thing.

 

[Mahonay]

I like that Matt Hardy called John Cena a Brother Nero


We all have Brother Neros in our life.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I love how many Simpsons episodes have shoot.gif moments

This reminds me, we've even got ones for misfires...

You know, for if Ziggler ever tries to shoot again.

 

[Ithil]

Watching Raw. Cena just fucking BURIED AJ on the mic. Damn.

This feud is hot.

To an extent but I think AJ came back just fine. It's a good feud so far.
Not looking forward to the inevitable three PPV wins in a row by Cena but you know.

 

[UberTag]

I can't believe the lack of Jim Duggan gifs in here right now.

Here you go...

 

[Lightning Count]

Watching some Go Shiozaki matches from Noah, great worker.

 

[Ithil]

This reminds me, we've even got ones for misfires...

You know, for if Ziggler ever tries to shoot again.

And spur-of-the-moment comments

And those that incite a shoot but can't handle the consequences

 

[la_briola]

I guess this is the right thread.
For the WWE Universe in Germany, a longstanding source of speculation has become a reality: Tim Wiese, the former German national goalkeeper, has accepted a personal invitation from Paul “Triple H” Levesque, WWE’s Executive Vice President of Talent, Live Events & Creative, to join the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida, for an extended training period.
Former Footballer (Soccer for you fools) and current crazy person.

What will his stage name be, must be stereotypical right?

 

[Heroman]

Is this a work or a shoot?

 

[Browny]

HHH must love his goalkeepers - Hugo Knox played pro in England...

 

[Nocturnowl]

And spur-of-the-moment comments

How could I forget Wiggum?

 

[XenoRaven]

I guess this is the right thread.
For the WWE Universe in Germany, a longstanding source of speculation has become a reality: Tim Wiese, the former German national goalkeeper, has accepted a personal invitation from Paul “Triple H” Levesque, WWE’s Executive Vice President of Talent, Live Events & Creative, to join the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida, for an extended training period.
Former Footballer (Soccer for you fools) and current crazy person.

What will his stage name be, must be stereotypical right?

Heidenreich II