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Bootaaay said:
I never understood the Shelton love - he had zero charisma and was utterly boring in the ring when not risking his well-being with some crazy stunt, plus there are a load of indy guys who are better athletes, better high-flyers and have more charisma than Shelton ever did.

Also, i've never really liked Christian outside of tag team wrestling - he's enjoyable enough to watch in the ring, but i've never once bought the idea of him as a main eventer.
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It was interesting in the London and Kendrick shoot to hear them talking about Hass and Shelton saying that they would refuse to do certain things because they said they wouldnt happen to them because of their college wrestling backgrounds. Seems like they take themselves a bit too seriously.
 
You people and your crazy opinions.

Christian is a great talker, especially as a heel, and is a very good wrestler. It's hard to count how many solid to really good matches he's pulled out of people in the past 2 years that had NO business having a good match. If you can't buy someone like Christian as a World Champion at this point, someone like say.....Brian Danielson will never have a shot.

As for John Morrison, the guy doesn't have enough charisma, plain and simple. His gimmick calls for Shawn Michaels-like mic skills and interaction with the crowd/wrestlers etc., but the guy's personality is so rigid. Lots of athletic ability, but wouldn't be able to sustain a REAL one on one feud.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
You people and your crazy opinions.

Christian is a great talker, especially as a heel, and is a very good wrestler. It's hard to count how many solid to really good matches he's pulled out of people in the past 2 years that had NO business having a good match. If you can't buy someone like Christian as a World Champion at this point, someone like say.....Brian Danielson will never have a shot.

As for John Morrison, the guy doesn't have enough charisma, plain and simple. His gimmick calls for Shawn Michaels-like mic skills and interaction with the crowd/wrestlers etc., but the guy's personality is so rigid. Lots of athletic ability, but wouldn't be able to sustain a REAL one on one feud.
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Such as who? jack Swagger? Evan Bourne? William Regal?

Christian hasn't wrestled tomatoes cans. His entire ECW run until has had him fighting some of the better people on that roster. Christian benefits from the same thing guys like CM Punk and Aj Styles benefit from. They always wrestle against good opponents, but they get all the credit.
 
AnEternalEnigma said:
Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre got deported. WWE accidentally let their work visas expire. :lol
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Mishun Compreet.
 
a sheamus vs orton program would be FANTASTIC. sheamus has evolved into a great heel and orton has turned into the top face in the company. Cener is so stale, and is losing to Orton in pops now. He needs a new gimmick and/or person to feud with. Maybe Miz vs Cena feud that puts miz over
 
Christian got respectable matches out of Zeke Jackson and Tommy Dreamer for crying out loud.

Ever since moving from ECW, he's wrestled Dibiase a few times, Ziggler a few times, got beat in a tag match by Vance Archer and Curt Hawkins, and wrestled Edge to the finest RAW match since the HBK-Jericho stuff. I don't recall any sufficient feuds that went to a PPV, either. He hasn't had a credible shot.

Poor booking is the worst thing that's happened to him. He could be in a great feud with Edge right now instead of the horrid Orton-Edge angle on RAW which is quite boring, and that itself seems so forced. Then again, all feuds do these days (ranging from main events, tag, mid-card, and Divas - limited exposure of a roster will do that, I guess).
 
avatar299 said:
Such as who? jack Swagger? Evan Bourne? William Regal?

Christian hasn't wrestled tomatoes cans. His entire ECW run until has had him fighting some of the better people on that roster. Christian benefits from the same thing guys like CM Punk and Aj Styles benefit from. They always wrestle against good opponents, but they get all the credit.
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As stated above, Christian had very solid matches with Ezekiel Jackson and Tommy Dreamer, as well as Zack Ryder, and Yoshi Tatsu. Sure they aren't the worst of all time, but I'm pretty sure no one was expecting good matches out of them that told a story on a 3rd tier one hour show.
 
Striker said:
Christian got respectable matches out of Zeke Jackson and Tommy Dreamer for crying out loud.

Ever since moving from ECW, he's wrestled Dibiase a few times, Ziggler a few times, got beat in a tag match by Vance Archer and Curt Hawkins, and wrestled Edge to the finest RAW match since the HBK-Jericho stuff. I don't recall any sufficient feuds that went to a PPV, either. He hasn't had a credible shot.

Poor booking is the worst thing that's happened to him. He could be in a great feud with Edge right now instead of the horrid Orton-Edge angle on RAW which is quite boring, and that itself seems so forced. Then again, all feuds do these days (ranging from main events, tag, mid-card, and Divas - limited exposure of a roster will do that, I guess).
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This is what I'm talking about. Zeke isn't bad. Dreamer isn't bad. Ryder isn't bad. Dibiase isn't bad. Archer and Hawkins have solid chemistry as a team. None of these guys are terrible wrestlers, so acting as if Christian is amazing because he had good matches with them is crazy.
 
Lkr said:
a sheamus vs orton program would be FANTASTIC. sheamus has evolved into a great heel and orton has turned into the top face in the company. Cener is so stale, and is losing to Orton in pops now. He needs a new gimmick and/or person to feud with. Maybe Miz vs Cena feud that puts miz over
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WRONG

Cena was insanly over - like insanly you hear various boos and cena sucks chants, but make no mistake this man is OVER.
 
Christopher said:
WRONG

Cena was insanly over - like insanly you hear various boos and cena sucks chants, but make no mistake this man is OVER.
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Cena sucks chants don't mean he is over. He isn't getting "heat" per se like a heal would, these are people fed up with the staleness of his gimmick and always winning shit
 
Lkr said:
Cena sucks chants don't mean he is over. He isn't getting "heat" per se like a heal would, these are people fed up with the staleness of his gimmick and always winning shit
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Cena wrestled in a four way with orton and still got more positive pops. The man is over.

if you don't like Cena, you cheer for the other guy. Booing Cena just makes Cena come off as more over.

Beg to differ there, DiBiase is pretty bad.
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They don't know how to book the million dollar man in 210, but ted can handle himself in the ring
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Uh, yes it does.
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I don't think everyone understands heat.

Its always funny that people say Cena is stale, but cheers or jeers, you never hear silence when the man comes out.

Nor do you often hear boring chants during his matches.
 
AnEternalEnigma said:
Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre got deported. WWE accidentally let their work visas expire. :lol
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Well Wasde Barett most likely got an injury when they(the Nexus) invaded a cage match at a house show, and the Drew stuff is probably to send him back to FCW to get some new training wheels for his gimmick, for later on in the year.
 
avatar299 said:
This is what I'm talking about. Zeke isn't bad. Dreamer isn't bad. Ryder isn't bad. Dibiase isn't bad. Archer and Hawkins have solid chemistry as a team. None of these guys are terrible wrestlers, so acting as if Christian is amazing because he had good matches with them is crazy.
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What? Dreamer and Jackson aren't bad? They don't botch, if that's what you mean, but they aren't the technical wrestlers you would come to know and love. They don't pull off good wrestling matches, if that's what you're saying. Christian getting good matches off Dreamer and Jackson is something beneficial to them, but Christian is the one carrying that torch.

As for Dibiase, no, he is not a bad wrestler, techincally, but he's boring as fuck.
 
Add me to the group that's not a fan of Christian. Captain Charisma he is not. Yes he can work a good match and make just about anyone look like a worldbeater but he is very generic.

His mic skills are average at best and can't work the crowd. Couple that with terrible music and the fact that somehow he looks about 50 years old and you have a permanent mid cordero at best.
 
Christian had a real solid run as ECW champion. He made the belt more respectable than it should have been. It's a shame to see him relegated to low-midcard status that he is right now. The WWE's main problem is pushing stars. McIntyre has the charisma of a bowling ball, but is getting a good push. But this dumb shit with him and Barrett will probably kill that. Can't believe the WWE was dumb enough to allow that to happen to both men.
 
Linkified said:
Well Wasde Barett most likely got an injury when they(the Nexus) invaded a cage match at a house show, and the Drew stuff is probably to send him back to FCW to get some new training wheels for his gimmick, for later on in the year.
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No. Their work visas expired, so they are out indefinitely. It happens...Angelna Love had to stop working for TNA when she didn't get her visa renewed in time last year.

Both guys will be back soon enough, but this yet-another blow to the nXt angle. Maybe they will have a non-nXt member join to make up for it, or whoever gets voted off nXt tonight will join them.
 
Update on Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre:



-- As talked about yesterday on the new edition of Wrestling Observer Radio (which is a FREE download today), both Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett are having visa issues. Based on the way they shot the angles on TV, it appears at the time they had no idea when Drew's problems would be cleared up and they hoped Barrett would be back by next week's Raw. Unfortunately, as of this afternoon the word we've gotten is that creative has been told to presume both won't be back until after SummerSlam, which is a complete disaster particularly in the case of Barrett as the standout performer in Nexus. Granted, they could be back sooner, but either way heads are going to roll. It also sucks for McIntyre because he was scheduled to win the briefcase at WrestleMania and then that got changed, and he was scheduled to win it again at Money in the Bank and now he may not be able to work that show either. One of our readers said they saw McIntyre in Scotland on Saturday night, so apparently he's back home.

-- We don't have an update on Sheamus, who was signed around the same time as Barrett and McIntyre, but the feeling from one WWE source is that either WWE somehow caught it and handled it while somehow missing the other two, or he was proactive in bringing it to their attention and they handled it without thinking about the other two. Or I guess presumably he could be next. We'll update later today or tomorrow when we hear more.


http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/13912/
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RBH said:
Update on Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre:



-- As talked about yesterday on the new edition of Wrestling Observer Radio (which is a FREE download today), both Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett are having visa issues. Based on the way they shot the angles on TV, it appears at the time they had no idea when Drew's problems would be cleared up and they hoped Barrett would be back by next week's Raw. Unfortunately, as of this afternoon the word we've gotten is that creative has been told to presume both won't be back until after SummerSlam, which is a complete disaster particularly in the case of Barrett as the standout performer in Nexus. Granted, they could be back sooner, but either way heads are going to roll. It also sucks for McIntyre because he was scheduled to win the briefcase at WrestleMania and then that got changed, and he was scheduled to win it again at Money in the Bank and now he may not be able to work that show either. One of our readers said they saw McIntyre in Scotland on Saturday night, so apparently he's back home.

-- We don't have an update on Sheamus, who was signed around the same time as Barrett and McIntyre, but the feeling from one WWE source is that either WWE somehow caught it and handled it while somehow missing the other two, or he was proactive in bringing it to their attention and they handled it without thinking about the other two. Or I guess presumably he could be next. We'll update later today or tomorrow when we hear more.


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http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/13903/
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Looks like we'll have to make do with this for a few months, then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4EPWcFJh1Y
 
McIntyre to win MitB -- really? Perhaps it's fate that this happened.

EDIT: Just read the part about Sheamus. Man, if this shit happens to him too, they're fucked for the forseeable future.
 
The obvious way WWE will play this off on TV is that Wade Barrett was either "fired" or "suspended indefinitely" after his "meeting with WWE officials."

And now Nexus needs a new leader/mouthpiece.
 
Why does the real-world hate the WWE's big summer angles so much?

Vince McMahon decides to kill himself off on TV, then Benoit goes and murders his family.
Vince has an illegitimate son, and then Kennedy has to go get busted for drug use.
Donald Trump buys WWE Raw, and people are too stupid to understand its a wrestling storyline and not an actual event.
Now Nexus is just falling apart slowly.
 
RBH said:
Update on Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre:

It also sucks for McIntyre because he was scheduled to win the briefcase at WrestleMania and then that got changed, and he was scheduled to win it again at Money in the Bank and now he may not be able to work that show either. One of our readers said they saw McIntyre in Scotland on Saturday night, so apparently he's back home.
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THANK FUCKING GOD!
 
Know I'm late but Jomo sucks at promos because his character can't be face, he's stuck in promos with "Hey guys... what do you think?" because he can't go on a zen styled rant about how he's better than everybody. If you look at his reign as ECW champ he was pretty solid on the mic, a whole lot better than he is now at the very least. It's much easier to be a heel on the mic and in the ring than a face. Hell, if you look at the cluster-fuck of the Dirt Sheet and Crime Time on commentary Morrison was the only one coming up with any decent lines.

Also the powers that be are clearly against him given he didn't get a nomination yet alone 100% of the votes that he deserves on the Diva's most handsome pole.
 
The problem with Morrison is that his moveset and wrestling style fits a lot better when he's a face. You really don't want the fans cheering after all his aerial maneuvers.
 
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