Yeah both Apes movies are faaaaaar better.
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Jurassic World |OT| WARNING! Safety Not, uh, Guaranteed | RT: 71?!%
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crazyrabbits
Banned
So...what exactly did you want instead? Them to scare it off with a flare?
I wish I could like TLW as much as others do
I wish you did, too. I love TLW.
Sure, she looks a little off, but dude.
Dude. They know their audience.
I rewatched all the other movies after JW. It's been a long time since I watched TLW and JP3, was like seeing them for the first time again. The original still holds up so well today. Not that I expected otherwise, but damn... what a classic it still is. TLW was surprisingly decent up until the San Diego finale. Best part was the dual Rex attack. Bald dude doing some next level heroics saving everyone, then gets chomped in half. JP 3 was pretty much trash, I'd put it alongside JW.
Must say that JP3 has the best looking raptors though.
JP >>>x10> TLW>> JP3 = JW
Must say that JP3 has the best looking raptors though.
JP >>>x10> TLW>> JP3 = JW
bananafactory
Banned
Just saw it a second time and surprisingly I enjoyed almost every part of it even more
Most of all I was more comfortable with the characters this time around since I'd gotten to know them already, enjoyed their interactions and appreciated how things progressed more (even if there wasn't much of an arc)
The action scenes are so well done that the tension is definitely still present on repeat viewings
And I'm sorry I still can't understand the CG complaints, unless it looks worse in 2D somehow. Saw it in 3D both times and everything was extremely convincing
Most of all I was more comfortable with the characters this time around since I'd gotten to know them already, enjoyed their interactions and appreciated how things progressed more (even if there wasn't much of an arc)
The action scenes are so well done that the tension is definitely still present on repeat viewings
And I'm sorry I still can't understand the CG complaints, unless it looks worse in 2D somehow. Saw it in 3D both times and everything was extremely convincing
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Well, I ended up seeing it. I thought I'd wait, but didn't.
It was completely mediocre. The movie lacked focus, dialogue was terrible, drama sucked, morals were handled poorly, it emulated things from the original cheaply, and pacing was all over the place too.
Some of the dino stuff was ok.
It was completely mediocre. The movie lacked focus, dialogue was terrible, drama sucked, morals were handled poorly, it emulated things from the original cheaply, and pacing was all over the place too.
Some of the dino stuff was ok.
Green Mamba
Member
I'm not talking about
the Tyrannosaurus itself. I'm talking about the Tyrannosaurus breaking the Spinosaurus skeleton in a gleeful way a fanboy would have wrote it in a piece of bad fanfiction. That's kind of a problem I have with the movie in many places--it feels like it's made by JP fanboys for JP fanboys, and I'm not a fan of fan-pandering like that.
Oh that? Eh. As someone who loved JPIII and the Spinosaurus, I was a bit indifferent to it. I'm sure ha8ers of the third film loved it, since they still wince at the thought of the battle in JPIII.
I liked it in the sense that she's back, after 22 years and ready to kick ass again.
I liked it in the sense that she's back, after 22 years and ready to kick ass again.
Yup.
AgentOtaku
Member
I wish I could like TLW as much as others do
Just got back from it
I think it's a legimate REALLY good film for 3/4s.... then it kinda implodes on itself instead of staying intimate (as well as losing it's tone 'cause at a certain point it doesn't want to be scary anymore).
Also, the raptor subplot with Owen almost completely unmakes the movies... or it did for me at least. Yeah Dinosaurs so who cares, but that shit was just duuuumb.
EDIT: Oh shit, lol, I'm actually talking about JW (^___^)
Sorry. For what it's worth, JW EASILY beats TLW and JPIII at least...
Just got back from it
I think it's a legimate REALLY good film for 3/4s.... then it kinda implodes on itself instead of staying intimate (as well as losing it's tone 'cause at a certain point it doesn't want to be scary anymore).
Total, absolute opposite for me. All of the character stuff missed the mark by about a thousand miles. When it just goes "Fuck it, here's all the dinosaurs" is when it redeemed itself.
AgentOtaku
Member
oh boy!
Sorry you feel that way. I thought it got the character stuff right where JP2/3 failed miserably at it.
bananafactory
Banned
I felt this way too.
Nah, TLW is mediocre before the San Diego scene and then it goes downhill once they get to San Diego. I found so many dumb and odd moments before it that I wonder how most of it made it into the film.
brandonh83
Banned
I like Owen, Claire, Zach and Gray. And Lowery. Masrani was whatever and Hoskins served his purpose. I liked the expansion of Wu's character too.
The characters in TLW can fuck off except Roland. The characters in JP3 were OK to me.
The characters in TLW can fuck off except Roland. The characters in JP3 were OK to me.
CharminUltra
Member
But it made a gazillion dollars! Something something nostalgia.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Edits: oops wrong thread
It's so hard to see though... terrible cam quality, ew :/
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Claire being a cold character warming up to kids is so fucking cliche.
The original JP is so much better and more unique. The one with Grant starting out cold and warming up to kids. Such a great character arc.
The original JP is so much better and more unique. The one with Grant starting out cold and warming up to kids. Such a great character arc.
brandonh83
Banned
lol, can't wait for the mental gymnastics you're gonna get with that one.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
A very shallow character, she seemed. They ask kinda were. Her transition was really hamfisted, although I'm fine with that. I didn't go in with the idea that the writing would be very deep. I didn't think JP was deep either, but still have us characters with notable characteristics.
I'll hold JW well above the two sequels, which I think are total shit. JW, imo, was really enjoyable and a worthy sequel. Nothing award worthy or whatever, but I'd recommend it to anybody.
E. I walked away happy. The other two sequels, my eyes rolled into the back my head. And Giacchino was great for the music. I real this'd movie pretty close to the first. But we'll see how I think in a few years when I watch it again.
brandonh83
Banned
I don't think Claire was actually meaning to be cold toward them. She was right in the middle of getting this new attraction ready and showing it to Masrani. She even tells Karen that it just ended up being a bad day for her to show the kids around. Gray however was clearly upset that everyone was brushing him off and not enjoying the park with him.
But Claire wasn't being cold or aloof, like Grant was. She was just overworked and didn't have time for them, which was understandable. When she was actually met them she was always friendly and tried to bond with them.
My problem with the film was presenting Claire as being in the wrong for not dropping everything and catering to her nephews, considering she was in charge of managing an ENTIRE THEME PARK, of course she's gonna be busy.
At first even I was kinda flabbergasted with how weird she was being regarding the kids.
paraphrased quote from the film:
"They're with my assistant. She's british. And you know they like, invented nannies"
But the more I watched, the more I understood her character.
She's not the stereotypical workaholic corporate ice queen who has her heart melted by kids, but a rather meek individual who is basically trying to fit in with the suits, who is forced to actually become a proactive protector by the end.
There's nothing to suggest she'd actually be warm toward the kids once she had time. I thought her not even knowing their ages suggested the opposite.
My 11 year old had not seen any of the JP movies before we saw JW a little while ago.
She loved it, thought it was awesome, but couldn't understand why my wife and I didn't have the same sentiment. We both thought JW was ok, but not great. She was asking us why we didn't agree with her and that's because we felt like the main characters of JW were not as charming or humorous as the ones in JP. JW is missing some of the human touches, and the comedy relief that made JP great. They tried to shoehorn some humanity into JW by having some 'brotherly' moments and it felt forced and I just didn't buy it. For me, JW tried too much to be a complete remake of the original script, which really boiled down, in both movies, as a rescue mission to try and save 2 kids lost in a park full of dinosaurs that have gotten loose. Chris Pratt in JW brought nothing to the movie, nor did Bryce Dallas Howard, that couldn't have been pulled off just as well by any other mid tier Hollywood actor. Whereas nobody could have replaced what Jeff Goldbloom brought to the original JP. Just my 2 cents in a nutshell without making this a long dissertation.
Well, just saw it. I liked it quite a bit but I felt like some of you guys really oversold it.
The plot and characters wer paper thin and the way the I-Rex's escaped was incredibly stupid, but once the movie got going it was just so good.
CGI was all over the place. Maybe because I watched it in 3D, but the dinos looked like they were not actually there most of the time. They just didn't blend in right. I never got that from the trailers but in the actual movie it was much more apparent.
Nostalgia hit me pretty hard at times. And I actually
Overall, I had issues with it but really enjoyed it. My biggest question before watching it was "was doing another JP sequel after 14 years worth it?". In my opinion, yes, it was.
The plot and characters wer paper thin and the way the I-Rex's escaped was incredibly stupid, but once the movie got going it was just so good.
CGI was all over the place. Maybe because I watched it in 3D, but the dinos looked like they were not actually there most of the time. They just didn't blend in right. I never got that from the trailers but in the actual movie it was much more apparent.
Nostalgia hit me pretty hard at times. And I actually
felt bad about the raptors that died. At least my girl Blue made it out alive.
Overall, I had issues with it but really enjoyed it. My biggest question before watching it was "was doing another JP sequel after 14 years worth it?". In my opinion, yes, it was.
bananafactory
Banned
I think I liked it a bit more than you, but I echo your sentiments. I guess my issue with
the I-Rex escape is that it just kind of...escaped. Just ran out the door. The T-Rex escape in the first film had such awesome buildup and payoff with the goat, the fence slowly coming unlinked and swaying. This one had the right idea I think but just faltered a bit in the execution
I saw this last night. I am a huge fan of the original film. I did not think this looked very good, I only saw it because my wife wanted to see it.
BUT, I really enjoyed it. It is easily the best sequel yet, and I am hoping that the inevitable sequel improves on it. The action was great, the references to the original were great, and the story was okay. The only thing that bothered me was too much cgi, but it wasn't a deal breaker.
Glad to see it has done SO well!
BUT, I really enjoyed it. It is easily the best sequel yet, and I am hoping that the inevitable sequel improves on it. The action was great, the references to the original were great, and the story was okay. The only thing that bothered me was too much cgi, but it wasn't a deal breaker.
Glad to see it has done SO well!
Nah, it's not that.
"We're not getting a thermal reading from the paddock." They go check, leaving the door open. "Looks like she climbed over the wall." "Oh no, check her tracking chip, see if we can locate her." "OMG guys, it's in there with you!".
Uh, how about you check her tracking chip before sending someone into the paddock.
Uh, how about you check her tracking chip before sending someone into the paddock.
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah, that's a pretty dumb move.
thecouncil
Banned
Well, that
I-Rex crashing through the gate was freakin' incredible. A 'holy shit' moment.
The T-Rex escape had the time to be slow. The I-Rex escape needed to be fast because he was racing a closing gate.
The T-Rex escape had the time to be slow. The I-Rex escape needed to be fast because he was racing a closing gate.
But, yeah, the T-Rex scene is a classic for a reason.
did they really
send Owen and the crew out to inspect it, or did they go out there themselves?
Aaronology
Member
I can't say I enjoyed it. Any movie where the plot consistently progresses via sheer stupidity is not a film I can get behind. And every major thing that happens in JW does so because someone was just being dumb as rocks.
69% is a few percents too high.
69% is a few percents too high.
It's seemingly implied that they go in to look for themselves, but that still doesn't justify why they didn't just call in for its tracking beacon immediately, knowing that it has one. Claire waiting until she was driving back to command to even ask about that made no sense.
Also not sure how the Indi-Rex apparently knew to dig the beacon out after it escaped. Okay sure, it "remembered them putting it there"...but how in all hell would it have realized that it was a tracking beacon? If it was just something it felt in its body that was irritating, it would've dug it out back in its pen long ago. Like my complaint about the kids' knowledge-bases shifting for plot convenience, so too do the I-Rex's capabilities and intellect.
Hopefully at least in the "Jurassic" universe, this can finally put to bed the notion of "don't just blow them away because they were so expensive to develop!" Then again if people in their version of the world had any common sense, there wouldn't be another movie anyway.
Icewear Vezzo
Banned
This movie had so many plot holes and corny moments.....was a bad film imo and I'm very disappointed
It's at 70% for days now, OP hasn't been updated yet.
Princess Carl
Member
Every scene with the two kids screamed "The Amazing Spiderman effect: decisions made by focus groups and execs". Other than that it was a fun ride.
I'd like the sequel to keep the Pratt and Howard characters of this one, but have it so the Hammond siblings from the first movie inherit the company somehow, and they bring in Goldblum, Neill, and Dern to work as specialists with Pratt and Howard on dinosaur stuff. Heck, Lexi Hammond can have a kid to keep up the tradition and we could bring in a 14-year-old son of Dern from JP3. It could be fun and be more about the characters we like.
Oh and bring back Jake Johnson too.
Centering the sequel around the cast of the first one is a terrible idea. Maybe they could make little cameos but being too beholden to repeating the first one is a big part of what did in the first two sequels.
Hm, I'm not understanding this. Can you expand on these thoughts?
The issue with the first two sequels is that for TLW they changed Goldblum's character entirely to make him boring, and for JP3 they completely ignored the character arc Neill had in the first one while Dern was just kinda there doing nothing. The characters in a different scenario together hasn't been done yet in this franchise and one I'd be willing to see them give a shot at, especially with Pratt and Howard still around.
That said, I would give the Hammond sibs just cameos in Jurassic World 2, if anything.
brandonh83
Banned
Charlie, don't give me that shit! made me shit myself. Liked most of the dialogue.
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