So you could tease it with gifs and nature vids longer?
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Demoncarnotaur
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So you could tease it with gifs and nature vids longer?
Hahaha I'm fine with the hardcore fans knowing, it was the casuals that I was hoping would go in blind!
Anyways, last I heard the Dinosaur won't look like a hybrid or mutant. In fact, last I heard, it looked like a beefed up Masiakasaurus.
The Driver
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Fuckkkkk. I'm not sure if I want to read that synopsis or not. I mean I've waited nearly 14 years for a sequel and it seems crazy to spoil something that could wow in theaters but y'all making it seem like its not that big a deal 
Edit* Just read it. Not that heavy spoilers, nothing that won't get shown in the trailers to hell and back before the movie. Sounds cool, though it basically does sound like the Carnotaurus which makes me wonder why they couldn't just use it. Oh well.
Edit* Just read it. Not that heavy spoilers, nothing that won't get shown in the trailers to hell and back before the movie. Sounds cool, though it basically does sound like the Carnotaurus which makes me wonder why they couldn't just use it. Oh well.
Demoncarnotaur
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Allosaur sized. Maybe smaller, but bigger than the Raptors.
Razgriz-Specter
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This,
this is the reason Sorna sucks.
The Driver
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My guess is that the "big" bad won't actually be super big. Carnotaurus would be too big.
Save him for a JW sequel and let rex be the big guy again. He deserves it
But the carno's power is getting stolen for this made up fucker
Oh well, at least he's got a freaky looking jaw.
Heisenberg
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OK maybe I'm in the minority but the rumored synopsis on Slashflim makes this movie sound lame as hell. My hype has decreased substantially after reading that.
Ugh, they really didn't have to do that much to make it different. The fact that it was going to be a fully functioning park would have been enough.
Ugh, they really didn't have to do that much to make it different. The fact that it was going to be a fully functioning park would have been enough.
The Driver
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I'm not too keen on the
dino on dino thing
Oh fuck. So hype. The whole "failed park" aspect for me is one of the greatest parts of the movies. I'm so happy to see this realized yet again. Don't let me down you jerks!
Yeah, sounds almost like someone gave Asylum too much money.
This happens all he time in the first three, I don't get the gripe on that.
Just not
"tamed"
bobbyrawlins
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Well, that slashfilm article killed what little interest I had in this movie.
"Tamed" dinosaurs? GTFO.
bengraven
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It killed the huge amount of interest I had in the film.
Please take everyone who feels normal dinosaurs in a normal JP setting is boring off the franchise, including and especially Steven Spielberg.
TitusGroan
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If splicing snake and cuttlefish DNA into dinosaurs gives them camoflage and rattlesnake jaws, then why didn't the dinosaurs in the original film have long tongues, make ribbit noises and hop everywhere?
Green Mamba
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The moment they announced no feathers it was clear that they decided they were.
Messypandas
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what could have been...
Like the ones they had in the first three movies?
Hey now, that's a little harsh on Wayne Knight.
Anton Sugar
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Seriously. Lots of people who know "what's best" here.
Y'all realize they've basically be treading water with the sequels, right? I'm glad they're adding a wrinkle to the "people go to an island, get stuck with dinosaurs" motif. Could make it interesting.
TitusGroan
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I'm just not a fan of making Jurassic Park an overtly fantastical thing. Part of the reason why the original film was so great was because it portrayed dinosaurs more realistically than audiences had ever seen before. Going from the most realistic portrayals of dinosaurs like Tyrannosaurus, Brachiosaurus and Gallimimus to weird cross-species genetic mutants with chameleon powers and snake jaws is just weird.
I mean, they probably could have added a wrinkle to the formula with that dinosaur-human mutant concept they were floating a while back, but I'm sure as hell glad that got shot down.
brandonh83
Banned
They're creating amalgamations, or at least one, for show. It goes back to the should/shouldn't morality of the first film. And to be fair, this is Jurassic World, it's a new park controlled by new characters making money from their ability to genetically create and control dinosaurs. This isn't the first book, nor is it the first film. I think the dinosaurs will mostly look just like what we've seen before, with the exception of this one animal that has been wildly spliced. As far as the tamed dinosaurs, it seems like people read that and their minds picture characters riding them, but I don't get that from it. They simply sound like they're genetically created to be domesticated and that they're further tamed and conditioned by trainers.
It sounds like this park is out of control and run by a bunch of yes men that want to keep making money so they start to experiment with what they can actually do with the dinosaurs. They're afraid that if they just keep the same animals around that visitation will begin to stale and diminish, and the park sounds really, really expensive so they feel the need to introduce new things to the audience. It makes sense. What I can say is that if this were just Jurassic Park 4 and the plot is yet another contrived reason for some of the same returning characters to go back to the island, which they never would unless forced, I would be less interested. Jurassic Park 3 did that and while it was brief fun, it was forgettable and added zilch to the story.
TitusGroan
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Fixed that for you.
Demoncarnotaur
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I won't lie, this news even worried me. I didn't realize the new species was allegedly a hybrid (beyond the
). I was aware the Dinosaur would be entirely fictional though, so it didn't sting as bad. The design should be pretty solid, and not look like a hybrid or a mutant thankfully (unless it has undergone big changes since my last verbal update. I have never seen it myself). It sported a decent name at a point in time, but recently I have been hearing something stupid as fuck. Not quite ready to say it, but lets hope it is just a nickname from the crew.
As for 'good' dinosaurs vs 'bad' Dinosaurs.. eh. Context is key. I am hoping we as the audience are meant to root for some of the Dinosaurs, but not necessarily see them as completely harmless to humans.
Cuttlefish for its camouflage ability.
As for 'good' dinosaurs vs 'bad' Dinosaurs.. eh. Context is key. I am hoping we as the audience are meant to root for some of the Dinosaurs, but not necessarily see them as completely harmless to humans.
Scooter155
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Ha, it's funny how well that synopsis applies to the movie and the studio making the movie.
To be honest, I'm starting to come around on Brandon's defending of all things cinematically stupid, I think we could probably all do to be a little less cynical.
brandonh83
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I obviously can't defend what doesn't exist yet, but obviously everyone can hate on what doesn't exist yet. But naturally I'm in the wrong because I choose to be optimistic for the time being. I think with the right execution it'll be fine, but either way, who knows.
Also, the reason you don't see much negativity from me is because I don't really enjoy talking about things I don't like.
*groan*
TitusGroan
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To clarify, I haven't written this film off entirely, and would hate to keep indulging in bashing a film I've yet to see. But as far as I'm concerned,
is the stupidest idea I've heard, and really suggests that execs are just trying to throw anything at this film to make it sell.
I will say that I've defended the prequels with Brandon in the Star Wars thread, so I'm not above defending the cinematically stupid either.
genetic mutant cuttlefish dinosaurs
I will say that I've defended the prequels with Brandon in the Star Wars thread, so I'm not above defending the cinematically stupid either.
brandonh83
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I defend the prequels as fun action/adventure movies. But I acknowledge their slew of issues and there are many. I tend to respect and believe in the filmmakers that are trying to bring me some excitement. If it turns out to be bad or doesn't entirely hit the mark, whatever, it's not the first time and won't be the last. I think the guys working on this film are incredibly smart and they know what they're doing.
The execs don't write the scripts, and
the dinosaur isn't this big cuttlefish thing, it simply shares characteristics such as its camo ability
The other jeep being where it was when Nedry died would be a cool thing to visit. Considering it would still be sat right near the path to the east dock.If they actually go back to the old place I would really like to see what this car looks like now.
I love stuff like that. Haunting and awesome at the same time.
bengraven
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I hated when everyone was ironically excited for the franchise-killing raptors with cybernetics.
Do it to another franchise. Why destroy this one? It's about dinosaurs in the modern day and the adventures that come about from them, it doesn't need bullshit sci-fi additions.
If you want that, start another franchise.
Demoncarnotaur
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The
Cuttlefish is simply a way to explain the chameleon ability, which is straight from the TLW novel. Why they have opted for a fictional Dinosaur over Carnotaurus I am not sure. That said, I like the idea of the Cuttlefish, as I would have never bought the concept of a Dinosaur doing that on its own naturally.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Coming from a movie that can't be bothered to have real dinosaurs, why does this surprise anyone? It's clear from day one they have no interest in dinosaurs.
brandonh83
Banned
I think a Carnotaur, while cool, would just kind of be another T-Rex, just like the Spino. I don't think that would have been some utterly amazing thing. Save for the river scene, the Spino chasing them is the same as a T-Rex chasing them but with a fin and a bit bigger and with what looked like a permanent shit-eating grin always on its face.
real_slime
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Yeah, I was disappointed to read the direction they're taking things as well. It reeks of dumb sequel stuff - although it's possible it could be good in a very stupid kind of way.
A major part of the appeal of Jurassic Park is the representation of dinosaurs as they might have been. When you begin throwing in nonsense mutant dinos and tamed dinos into that, it dilutes the concept so that the awe you feel at witnessing long dead nature come to life is obscured completely. The power of the scenes with the Triceratops and the Brachiosaurus will be impossible to achieve with some dumb movie monster. They need to be dangerous, beautiful and plausible on a gut level if not scientifically.
They just won't give us some majestic dinosaurs.
A major part of the appeal of Jurassic Park is the representation of dinosaurs as they might have been. When you begin throwing in nonsense mutant dinos and tamed dinos into that, it dilutes the concept so that the awe you feel at witnessing long dead nature come to life is obscured completely. The power of the scenes with the Triceratops and the Brachiosaurus will be impossible to achieve with some dumb movie monster. They need to be dangerous, beautiful and plausible on a gut level if not scientifically.
They just won't give us some majestic dinosaurs.
brandonh83
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It sounds like there will mostly be normal dinosaurs with one peculiar addition. Not sure how that information states otherwise.
real_slime
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The tamed dinosaurs aren't a good indication. I don't like the sound of that stuff either. We are just talking about some leaked information obviously, so I've still got some interest in it cos I like big dumb monster movies, too, but there's something about the early scenes in Jurassic Park which stirs me and it's about the feeling of modern people being confronted with dinosaurs going about their usual business. I'm just disappointed to hear the direction they're heading in is more sci-fi fantasy than speculative nature stuff.
brandonh83
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It sounds like they will be the normal dinosaurs we've been seeing in the films, but some of them will be genetically tampered with for reasons related to the park and the shows, and with one being an oddball in an attempt to keep bringing visitors back. It's a wildly different vision, but not one I'm against until further notice.
real_slime said:
What suggests otherwise about this film? But anyway, that's already been done and this is the third sequel. 2 and 3 were dull by comparison because they were just sort of the same thing again with the same dinosaurs with a couple of variables like DOUBLE T-Rexes and the Spinosaur.
You should see the CGI for when it attacks the car.
I already know, I watched the ILM doc on Encore when it first aired. That shit blew me away.
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