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Yeah. It's propably white because of the cuttlefish genes.
Cow Mengde
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I wonder if that's really the colors though? The toys are not always the same color as the movie version. That said, your theory makes sense.
It probably is the coloration of the thing, Lego tends to be pretty color accurate with licensed stuff generally.
Demoncarnotaur
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They're real.
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Demoncarnotaur
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Universal marketing swapped it out for Furious 7. It'll hit soon, but maybe not as soon as it was going to be recently.
Ahhh, okay.
Also read something about it being with Mockingjay, but don't know.
Demoncarnotaur
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This one.
People already mentioned it looking like a
but I really do wonder if it's actually based on the
family, with DNA extracted from
, instead of a T-Rex.
of the T-Rex. For reference: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3199/3014671054_1b634ab83f.jpg
Kinda makes me happy. The T-Rex or Spino usually get the starring role as the main carnivore in whatever media, so I'd love to see a
main baddie.
Edit: Bleh, are they still pretending velociraptors are these big huge dromaesaurids? Call them Deinonychus and make real-sized velociraptors as well. Hell, throw in Utahraptors as well, get some variety in there.
Carcharodontosaurus
carcharodontosauridae
carcharodontosaurus/acrocanthosaurus/giganotosaurus/mapusaurus/tyrannotitan
It's got the three (four?) fingers, the crests on the head, as well as a much sharper/sleeker head compared to the more bulky head
Kinda makes me happy. The T-Rex or Spino usually get the starring role as the main carnivore in whatever media, so I'd love to see a
carcharodontosaurid-based
Edit: Bleh, are they still pretending velociraptors are these big huge dromaesaurids? Call them Deinonychus and make real-sized velociraptors as well. Hell, throw in Utahraptors as well, get some variety in there.
Jurassic Park in a nutshell. Who cares about real world dinos anymore?! These are fictional dinos!
I wish we were getting a few feathered dinos here and there. Both feathered and scaled existed.
TheBaldEmperor
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Haha those Kenner toys looked ridiculous.
It's a shame too because at first they seemed to strive for as much scientific accuracy as possible although with a bit of creative license for dramatic purposes (making the raptors slasher-film level of psychotic killers and the possibly undersized venom-spitting Dilophosaurus, and the Brachiosaurus standing on two legs). Sure there were some goofs here and there, with them confusing the raptors for Deinonychus or Utahraptor. Jurassic Park 3 also made a few good decisions by giving the male raptors that bit of proto-feather mohawk, which I felt was an interesting compromise, and they seemed, at least in the CG scenes (as the animatronics were huge because they had to fit a person in there), to be smaller than the ones in previous films, and also by making all the dinos a lot more colorful. That crimson Ceratosaurus and emerald green T-Rex. I actually had a red Ceratosaurus figure as a kid so watching it as a 13-year old made me super happy.
It's a shame they're pissing this all away. And yeah, I know, creative license blah blah, but the series was important in changing the public's perception of dinosaurs, and it's unfortunate they're not going to capitalize on that. It's easily explained story-wise as well. Have them design the animals with accuracy in mind, then just going "fuck it" and making up our new El Reptil Diablo and maybe the more old-school JP raptors.
Oh well, I guess I'll be satisfied if Dr. Wu just says something about how he want the animals to be sleek and featherless, or about the DNA coincidentally all lacking the feather genes or some excuse.
I've never ranted about this, so here's mine I guess. Moving on.
Well they obviously wouldn't say that. Also they're not going to use old CGI tech to make them look like the 93 version anyway, they don't have to explain the fact that some dinos get feathers, just do it.
Anyway the feather debate we've been through but the velociraptor case is so much easier to quick fix I can't see why they wouldn't do it. They could drop the 'veloci' and still just call them raptors and it would be fine.
Haven't been following the "feathered dinosaurs" discussion. But you know that the dinosaurs in the JP movies are not "real" dinosaurs. They're mutants since their DNA is mixed with amphibians? It's even more clear in the book(s).
For me, they could look however they want to as long as the movie is good. When I was a kid the dinosaurs in the movie were a big draw, but now it's more about the people and the interaction between them, the beasts, and the environment. I think that just showing of the features of the park which - they spared no expense - was as interesting as the monsters in it. I want the tech posing as much threat as the dinos. Like elevators not working when they're the most needed, and so on
For me, they could look however they want to as long as the movie is good. When I was a kid the dinosaurs in the movie were a big draw, but now it's more about the people and the interaction between them, the beasts, and the environment. I think that just showing of the features of the park which - they spared no expense - was as interesting as the monsters in it. I want the tech posing as much threat as the dinos. Like elevators not working when they're the most needed, and so on
They redesigned a lot of the dinos in JP3, made them a lot more colorful and added the plumage to the raptors. Besides, this is kind of a reboot. They could easily explain the change by saying they found more intact DNA strands or that technology improved. The science is inaccurate anyway. It's impossible to clone dinosaurs because there is no way we'll ever obtain DNA that is in any way close to being complete. The aim however should be as realistic a depiction as possible. I don't mind some degree of artistic license either, but make it deliberate and explain it properly. At any rate when JW comes out it would be 22 years since the original, and 14 years since JP3. JP shifted perceptions of dinos when it came out. JW should aim to do the same. Again, I don't mind artistic license. But I would rather be entertained and educated.
No, its a Sequel.
Demoncarnotaur
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It's a new park, with newly cloned Dinosaurs. Plenty of room for feathers.
That said, the Raptors and T-Rex are incredibly iconic, I'm fine with them retaining their legacy looks. New species should have feathers though.
bengraven
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This one.
Oh awesome. This was the coolest one. I'm hoping it becomes the official model they use with the sets, because my kid is sho nuff getting some.
Demoncarnotaur
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Theory about the Raptors: Chris Pratt's character is said to work directly with the Velociraptors. Perhaps it's a small pride, and each has a distinct look as to make them stand out.
bengraven
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You might be right. So they're the Bay Turtles of Jurassic Park.
No, I kid, I'm trying hard to be excited about this movie. Such a huge JP fan.
That's my assumption. They each will have some personality (dominant, submissive, aggressive) and they are all colored slightly differently to be able to tell them apart for the viewer.
Demoncarnotaur
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Nah, I don't think it's anything like that.
I simply think they finally want to show a pack dynamic, and as we spend time observing them with a human character, Owen, they wanted to make them slightly distinguishable.
With JP3 they originally wanted 3 color schemes of each Dino: Alpha, Male, Female. I bet it's something close to that.
Also my assumption on the "big bad" toy leak
It is white because that is the creatures "resting color" like a cuttle fish, it won't be that color most of the time as it changes for camouflage or when it is attacking it probably has more dazzling or intimidating color displays (red on the head / muzzle?).
Yea. There's no reason dinos in this film can't accurately reflect current restorations. They are cloned dinos. You could easily state several reason why they look different. And no one would care either way.
And that doesn't mean every one is covered in feathers. The is hard physical evidence of both scaled and feathered dinos. And some had both.
Anyway, this movie is gonna be good. Pratt. Awesome dinos. And dino deaths.
And that doesn't mean every one is covered in feathers. The is hard physical evidence of both scaled and feathered dinos. And some had both.
Anyway, this movie is gonna be good. Pratt. Awesome dinos. And dino deaths.
……forgetit
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Did the trailer hit and I completely missed it?
No, we looking at Legos.
dat scene tho
The craziest thing about the orginal JP is how awesome it still looks today.
Jurassic World is just going to be straight up crazy...
Also make the film a 12a I wanna see some gore!
I hope so. I remember JP3 having terrrrrrible CG :/ The early 2000s' was like the awkward years of CG where it was being overused, and no one minded if it was bad or not :/
Well, at least we get some animatronics. I think? I remember conflicting reports on that.
DamageControl
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Have any of these trailer reports mentioned the quality of CGI and/or the use of animatronics in the trailer?
They could easily have both feathered and non-feathered animals as well. Feathered raptors could be depicted as the "real-life" raptors, while the old raptors are kind of put to the side as they're essentially outdated which is why Starlord is taking care of and training them. Hey Hollywood! I can create simple logical concepts and explain them properly, that puts me above guys like Orci and Kurtzman. Put me on Star Trek 4, Transformers 6 and AmSpider-Man 3!
Different title, new park, doesn't follow up on any of the main story lines from the previous series, only connection to the old series is the Jurassic part of the title, Dr. Wu, Isla Nublar and dinosaurs. Hence why I said "kind of". It's a mostly new slate with a different title.
Which is one of the main reasons why the D&D movie is so glorious. Lots of "CG town" moments in that.
Different title, new park, doesn't follow up on any of the main story lines from the previous series, only connection to the old series is the Jurassic part of the title, Dr. Wu, Isla Nublar and dinosaurs. Hence why I said "kind of". It's a mostly new slate with a different title.
Which is one of the main reasons why the D&D movie is so glorious. Lots of "CG town" moments in that.
But they don't and this horse has been beaten into the ground, let it go already.
Cow Mengde
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By a bunch of nonsensical excuses. I haven't seen a single logical reason why a movie that hires experts that ignore the experts say.
Because it was done in the first movies. Seems like a pretty good execuse for me.
Cow Mengde
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And they continue to change with each movie.
I have never seen a Jurassic Park movie with full feathered dinos.
So it makes sense.
Demoncarnotaur
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First off, I suggest watching the first film again, and particularly pay attention to Dr. Grants scientific monologues. Adding feathers to the series would be very fitting, and self serving to the themes it presented early on. Jurassic Park was a series meant to depict Dinosaurs as animals, embracing modern science.
While feathers on Dinosaurs has been known for a while, it wasn't as widely accepted or understood during the release of the first JP. If it was, I can guarantee we would have seen some feathers on those Raptors.
Second, once again, it's a new park. They're cloning new Dinosaurs. There is no canonical reason for feathers not to exist this time. They acknowledge they didn't have it perfect the first time, citing Frog DNA was used to fill in the gaps. I'd argue they perfected it by now. I just don't see how feather wouldn't make sense.
Now, when we talk preference and art style, I'd agree with some arguments. I like that they are going back to the first films Raptors, with some new colors. Also, leave the JP T-Rex alone, it's iconic. But there is no reason why there shouldn't be a new species filling a feathered role, perhaps a small 'pure breed raptor'. Not only is there no reason for that not to exist, there is plenty of reasons for it to exist, fulfilling the theories and themes presented in the first film.
That said, I am sure a line in the movie explains that Dr. Wu engineered the Dinosaurs to be featherless. But I still think it's a mistake and a cop out not to have feathers on at least one species.
Demoncarnotaur
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In case people didn't see.. marketing has begun in the form of a viral site!
That is awesome! So wait, ten days for the trailer... I'm guessing it won't be attached to Mockingjay, then?
Cow Mengde
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David Kentz says those are nothing more than repaints of old Lego Dinosaur models.
Demoncarnotaur
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Not true for the Indominus, but this accurate for the others. However, the color schemes are accurate albeit stylized for the Lego brand.
Jawmuncher
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Yeah they are.
http://brickset.com/sets/theme-Dino
Still looking for Irex though.
Yep just went through all the sets with dinosaurs and no Irex based model.
Cow Mengde
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Wait, it's called Indominus now?
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