An awful lot of judgement being rained down here. Not gonna shed tears for this scumbag, he deserves whatever he gets.
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Jury has reached verdict in Dzhokhar Tsarnaev trial - sentenced to death
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An awful lot of judgement being rained down here. Not gonna shed tears for this scumbag, he deserves whatever he gets.
Mammoth Jones
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He made his choice. He should now suffer the consequences of it.
HomerSimpson-Man
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I rather it not be the death penalty, but I understand.
I can never ever be part of a jury that has the death penalty hanging over it, it would burn a part my soul for the rest of my life.
I can never ever be part of a jury that has the death penalty hanging over it, it would burn a part my soul for the rest of my life.
The Atticus
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Simply awful for everyone involved.
GhostWriter24
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He was provided with a defense attorney free of charge and given a fair trial in an American court system.
Every jury member agreed upon his sentence. This isn't bloodlust, it's justice.
depends on the families. some were for, some were against.
I wonder how often people in that situation actually do think about what they did.
Why not just sentence him for life? The best possible outcome would be repentance at some point. Intentionally killing human beings can not be justified unless it is an urgent situation. This man is essentially defenseless and giving him the death penalty only makes him a martyr among other fanatics.
But I understand the sentiment though. What this man did was absolutely horrible. It's not exactly a waste for humanity to see him die but it just makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable.
But I understand the sentiment though. What this man did was absolutely horrible. It's not exactly a waste for humanity to see him die but it just makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
I wonder if restorative justice will ever supersede retributive justice in this country.
eBay Huckster
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If by "the next year or two" you mean at least 14 years from now, considering there have been 44 federal death sentences since 2001 and none thus far have resulted in executions.
ginger ninja
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livestream:
http://pzfeed.com/live-jury-has-reached-a-verdict-in-death-penalty-trial-of-dzhokhar-tsarnaev/
what's on his hand ?
http://pzfeed.com/live-jury-has-reached-a-verdict-in-death-penalty-trial-of-dzhokhar-tsarnaev/
what's on his hand ?
Epsilon-delta
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Being locked up for possibly 60+ years in a supermax is far worse than death imo.
I would want the death penalty.
I would want the death penalty.
Jeff Albertson
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As truly shocking as his crimes were as an outsider the death penalty just seems backwards to me in a civilised country.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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I am against capital punishment, and this case is no different.
There is nothing but sadness in this story, all the way around. Killing a murderer is not justice, it's just revenge murder.
There is nothing but sadness in this story, all the way around. Killing a murderer is not justice, it's just revenge murder.
RustyNails
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Good. I dont want a single cent of my tax dollars to go to waste in keeping this human waste alive.
Well you'll be happy to know death penalty usually costs more!
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Not only will it cost more, but he won't be put to death for at least 15 to 20 years.
The Albatross
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I'm generally against the death penalty (I say "generally" just to avoid talking in absolutes), but... In this case, and other's like Timothy McVeigh, I can sort of appreciate the decision. When Tsarnaev is killed this situation is over. While, obviously, there are no appeals for sentences like his, that he continues to exist gives more possibility of him being relevant 10, 15, 20, or 50 years from now. With him dead, that possibility of future stories about him or some person making an appeal about him, or something, are over.
I've been at the Boston Marathon every year for the last 10, never at the finish line, and obviously I wasn't directly affected by any of this other than a egocentric "damn I live 20 miles from this nightmare" sort of thing... But even while I'm against the death penalty and I get no joy in any "sick revenge fantasy" as other people have put it, for me, when he's dead, it's the end of Tsarnaev without some glimmer of a chance that he'll ever be relevant in my life, without some teenage girl on Twitter posting "Free Dzokar" because he's supposedly handsome, or some right wing conspiracy theorist thinking that this was a CIA false flag government takeover program therefore he's innocent.
As uncomfortable as the death penalty is for me, for some illogical reason, the elimination of relevance of Tsarnaev is more comforting to me than the slim chance of his relevance 10, 20, or 50 years from now.
It's one of those times when my feelings lack a convincing explanation.
I've been at the Boston Marathon every year for the last 10, never at the finish line, and obviously I wasn't directly affected by any of this other than a egocentric "damn I live 20 miles from this nightmare" sort of thing... But even while I'm against the death penalty and I get no joy in any "sick revenge fantasy" as other people have put it, for me, when he's dead, it's the end of Tsarnaev without some glimmer of a chance that he'll ever be relevant in my life, without some teenage girl on Twitter posting "Free Dzokar" because he's supposedly handsome, or some right wing conspiracy theorist thinking that this was a CIA false flag government takeover program therefore he's innocent.
As uncomfortable as the death penalty is for me, for some illogical reason, the elimination of relevance of Tsarnaev is more comforting to me than the slim chance of his relevance 10, 20, or 50 years from now.
It's one of those times when my feelings lack a convincing explanation.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Good.
I'm all for setting high bars for the death penalty so as to avoid the false punishment of innocence, but when there is no doubt about either the guilt or the mental state of truly heinous criminals, I can't see a single good reason to disallow execution in such a case. Simply to be alive, to have access to the richness and variety and possibility of a human inner life, is a kind of privilege, and for truly serious offenders, it is both right and just that we, as a society, be allowed to make the decision to revoke that privilege in certain exceptional, heinous cases.
Note that I can see the argument to the contrary, but in the end, I think it's an overextension of humanism to apply it universally, or to suggest that a decision for death, come to communally and after intelligent debate, is the same thing, ethically, as murder.
I'm all for setting high bars for the death penalty so as to avoid the false punishment of innocence, but when there is no doubt about either the guilt or the mental state of truly heinous criminals, I can't see a single good reason to disallow execution in such a case. Simply to be alive, to have access to the richness and variety and possibility of a human inner life, is a kind of privilege, and for truly serious offenders, it is both right and just that we, as a society, be allowed to make the decision to revoke that privilege in certain exceptional, heinous cases.
Note that I can see the argument to the contrary, but in the end, I think it's an overextension of humanism to apply it universally, or to suggest that a decision for death, come to communally and after intelligent debate, is the same thing, ethically, as murder.
Norway.
Alligatorjandro
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oh
Rawr Its Ry
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I wish that fucker dies slow
NullPointer
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Good.
ginger ninja
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I am gonna have to go with NO.
We are. He got the easy way out, congrats.
JetBlackPanda
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Win? Loss? its all a horrible tragedy.
So basicall you want state-sanctioned torture and butchering. How are you any better than the criminals you demonize?
I think only time will tell
The alternative here is life in ADX Florence, which is not restorative justice either. There's no goal of rehabilitation in either option, it's punishment for the sake of punishment.
Black Republican
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not surprised. but even im not 100% of the death penalty in 2015
NullPointer
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Thats my hope too.
The fact that Brevik lives while all his victims had their lives cut short in horrible ways makes my blood boil. I can't fathom how that's justice, but I can respect that people take principled stands on both sides.
Epsilon-delta
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But his defense team was fighting for life, so it seems the young man doesn't want to be sentenced to death.
Jag
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21 years is not even close for what Breivik should get for murdering those kids. Mandatory life in a single cell. That's justice.
entremet
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That's due to appeals, not because of the DP inherently.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Had a whole happy life ahead of him but chose to be a terrible person and while I would never celebrate the death of someone, he no longer deserves any privileges of life.
I guess it ran in the family...
I guess it ran in the family...
But appeals are kind of inherently part of the process. At least in the majority of cases.
The Albatross
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I just don't know what you can restore from a terrorist who targets children.
Probably not much, considering all the new things they gotta think about being in prison
LyleLanley
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"Avg wait for those sentenced to death is 14 yrs, 10 months. Tsarnaev is 21, so he'll likely be alive until his 30s." - @McCannSportsLaw
RoslindaleOne
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I'd rather him rot in jail. So, I'm disappointed he is put to death.
Sure, but the end net negative's still the same.
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