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[Clearos]

Give him life in solitary confinement. Play a continuous loop of images of the people he killed/maimed on every wall of his cell for the rest of his life.

This. No media coverage either. Let him be forgotten.

 

[stufte]

It is truly frightening how quickly and gleefully some of you just jump to "KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER".

Welcome to a natural human response. When you kill and maim people for the fuck of it, don't expect many to have compassionate responses.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Give him life in solitary confinement. Play a continuous loop of images of the people he killed/maimed on every wall of his cell for the rest of his life.

Why torture him? Why not just separate him from the rest of society so we are safe from him?

Let him live out the rest of his life behind bars.

Welcome to a natural human response. When you kill and maim people for the fuck of it, don't expect many to have compassionate responses.

There's a difference between a non-compassionate response and revenge driven desire for a head.

 

[Lambtron]

His defenses opening statement admitted that he did it.

Even if he admits it I am 100% against the death penalty in this and all cases.

I am hoping against hope that they don't sentence him to death.

 

[Ominym]

Count 4 and 5 guilty.

Well, I mean, it's not like he didn't expect this much. Either decision is shitty for him and there's no way he was getting acquitted, so, he's got to be pretty prepared for the reality of it I'd imagine.

 

[Simply Sarah]

Today is and always was largely a formality given that the defense admitted guilt and the government seemed to meet the bar in regards to at least some of the capital charges. The uncertainty has pretty much always been over the capital phase of trial that will happen now.

 

[statham]

Count 6 guilty

I'm against the death penalty for monsters because a life in prison seems like a worse punishment anyway.

I know people in prison and visit them once in awhile, you can still enjoy life in prison, you still watch TV/Movies, read books laugh, joke, play chess, ect.

 

[nrvalleytime]

It is truly frightening how quickly and gleefully some of you just jump to "KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER".

Right? Death is sickening, in all forms.

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

Dude's batting a solid 1.000 right now. I can't even begin to imagine his thought process right now.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

So if suicide is considered the "easy way out" by people how is the death penalty a suitable punishment compared to life imprisonment?

Sounds like an easy way out for this guy.

 

[backflip10019]

Why torture him? Why not just separate him from the rest of society so we are safe from him?

Let him live out the rest of his life behind bars.

Is that really torture? Solitary is entirely acceptable for someone who did something as terrible as he did. And showing the happy faces of those he injured/killed prior to the bombing can't really qualify as torture.

 

[LifEndz]

I'm against the death penalty for monsters because a life in prison seems like a worse punishment anyway.

You're against it for monsters?

 

[Macho Madness]

COUNT 7: Bombing a place of public use, aiding and abetting (Pressure Cooker #1). GUILTY

COUNT 8: "Use and Carry" of firearm (Pressure Cooker #1) during crime of violence; weapon of mass destruction (from COUNT 7). GUILTY

COUNT 9: Bombing a place of public use (Pressure Cooker #2) GUILTY COUNT 9a. Did Count 9 result in the death of Lingzi Lu? yes

COUNT 10: "Use and carry" of a firearm (Pressure Cooker #2) during a crime of violence (from Count 9) GUILTY

 

[LyleLanley]

Guilty of counts 7-10 as well. Edit: Beaten.

 

[Somnid]

If he gets life in prison it's likely going to be solitary because it's likely he'd get killed otherwise.

 

[Hari Seldon]

For me, this case wouldn't be death. There is something kind of less personal and slightly less evil about a terrorist attack compared to say, a classic serial killer.

I dunno maybe I"m crazy.

 

[dave is ok]

I know people in prison and visit them once in awhile, you can still enjoy life in prison, you still watch TV/Movies, read books laugh, joke, play chess, ect.

In a supermax he would restricted to his cell for 23 hours a day.

All of the people wishing him into gen pop or being raped or beaten by inmates are very wrong on what his experience would be. That being said, it would be much worse.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Abolish the death penalty. He should get life in prison.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Is that really torture? Solitary is entirely acceptable for someone who did something as terrible as he did. And showing the happy faces of those he injured/killed prior to the bombing can't really qualify as torture.

I think solitary is very close to torture but my main objection was this

Play a continuous loop of images of the people he killed/maimed on every wall of his cell for the rest of his life

 

[Omegasquash]

This trail was always about death or no. He admitted the bombing and is "ready to face" whatever he has to. They've said it over and over.

Guilty verdict was basically a foregone conclusion. Now the real trial begins.

I'm sure there'll be an opinion thread on it later, but I can't take the side of executing him. I don't know if I'd do much more than signing a petition, but that's about all I'd do. Lock him up, keep him there.

 

[statham]

Manson almost got married in prison.

 

[TemplaerDude]

Welcome to a natural human response. When you kill and maim people for the fuck of it, don't expect many to have compassionate responses.

And how does smacking your head against a keyboard going "kill kill kill" somehow make anyone better than him?

 

[LifEndz]

Give him life in solitary confinement. Play a continuous loop of images of the people he killed/maimed on every wall of his cell for the rest of his life.

A fate even worse than death. I like it.

 

[Macho Madness]

COUNT 11: Conspiracy to maliciously destroy property. GUILTY COUNT 11a: Did that conspiracy result in the death of Krystle Campbell? yes

 

[Delta Assault]

Hopefully this brings a sense of closure to the victims' families.

 

[davepoobond]

For me, this case wouldn't be death. There is something kind of less personal and slightly less evil about a terrorist attack compared to say, a classic serial killer.

I dunno maybe I"m crazy.

I would argue the opposite, personally, but they're on pretty much the same level.

 

[Sanjuro]

Dude's batting a solid 1.000 right now. I can't even begin to imagine his thought process right now.

I'm pretty sure once he blatantly shredded an eight year old to pieces, his thought process was broken.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I don't hope on his behalf he avoids the death penalty, but I hope on behalf of a general moral principle he doesn't.

 

[ActStriker]

All counts up through #13 are Guilty, with yes to all subquestions

 

[Macho Madness]

COUNT 12: Malicious destruction of property (Pressure Cooker #1) GUILTY COUNT 12a. Did Count 12 result in injury to at least 1 person? YES

COUNT 13: "Use and carry" of firearm (Pressure Cooker #1) in relation to malicious destruction of property? GUILTY

 

[stufte]

And how does smacking your head against a keyboard going "kill kill kill" somehow make anyone better than him?

Because saying you want him punished by execution is not at all the same thing as planning and *actually* murdering innocent civilians.

The idea that saying he should be killed is equal at all to what he did is preposterous.

*edit* I think he should get life, it's a worse punishment, but I understand the natural human response to levy an "eye for an eye" form of justice against someone.

 

[Piggus]

Sometimes I do wish there was some kind of hell for pieces of shit like this to rot in...

Send him to the ADX. Worse than any hell.

 

[BennyBlanco]

life in that supermax in colorado sounds worse than the death penalty to me

just pure isolation. weeks go by without anyone speaking to you. i would probably lose my shit in the first month.

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

For me, this case wouldn't be death. There is something kind of less personal and slightly less evil about a terrorist attack compared to say, a classic serial killer.

I dunno maybe I"m crazy.

In the broad context of things, a terrorist attack is certainly less personal since it's aggression toward a general subset of people and not an individual in particular. It's still as evil if not more evil because of that lack of personal association with the victims involved.

Saying killing 5 or 6 as a serial murderer is more evil than killing nearly 20 and maiming 100s doesn't sound right to me.

 

[Kevtones]

ADX please

 

[SocksAndShoes]

Welcome to a natural human response. When you kill and maim people for the fuck of it, don't expect many to have compassionate responses.

That compassion is what separates us from people who kill other people. When we execute killers, we gain absolutely nothing as a society besides lowering the world population by one.

Well that, and people can say "justice was served", even though nobody can define what that is or why it's helpful.

 

[adj_noun]

They would surely keep here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence. There was a story about it recently: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/magazine/inside-americas-toughest-federal-prison.html

Seems like a cheerful place.

Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.

Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap.

Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.

Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber, stated in a series of 2006 letters to a Colorado Springs newspaper that the ADX is meant to "inflict misery and pain." A former ADX warden described the place as "a cleaner version of Hell"

 

[Brakke]

Is that really torture? Solitary is entirely acceptable for someone who did something as terrible as he did. And showing the happy faces of those he injured/killed prior to the bombing can't really qualify as torture.

Yes, perpetual solitary in a supermax like he would face is torture.

 

[Nokagi]

And how does smacking your head against a keyboard going "kill kill kill" somehow make anyone better than him?

Ha. Can't believe you are seriously asking that. Perhaps they are better than him because they didn't kill a bunch of innocent people? I dunno? Crazy thought!

 

[TemplaerDude]

Because saying you want him punished by execution is not at all the same thing as planning and *actually* murdering innocent civilians.

The idea that saying he should be killed is equal at all to what he did is preposterous.

I didn't say that.

 

[Macho Madness]

COUNT 14: Malicious destruction of property (Pressure Cooker #2) GUILTY COUNT 14a. Did Count 14 result in injury to at least 1 person? yes

COUNT 15: "Use and carry" of firearm (Pressure Cooker #2) in relation to malicious destruction of property (from Count 14). GUILTY

 

[collige]

Is that really torture? Solitary is entirely acceptable for someone who did something as terrible as he did. And showing the happy faces of those he injured/killed prior to the bombing can't really qualify as torture.

International consensus leans towards yes when it's done over long periods of time. It basically induces mental illness.

 

[Resident_UA]

It is truly frightening how quickly and gleefully some of you just jump to "KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER".

Yes. That's the most depressing part... Sure he is an idiot, but in general I'm against death penalty. I think it's fine if he gets it, but people gloating at killing a human being always freaks me out.

 

[cooljeanius]

Yeah, but they've been trying to argue that he was just a poor brainwashed kid being used by The Human Speedbump, right?

Where do they get slimeballs to defend creeps like this?

TIL that John Adams was a "slimeball" for defending the British Redcoat "creeps" that were responsible for the Boston Massacre

 

[Macho Madness]

COUNT 16: "Use and carry" of firearm (Ruger 9mm) in relation to conspiracy to use a Weapon of Mass Destruction (Count 1) GUILTY

COUNT 17: "Use and carry" of a firearm (Ruger 9mm) in relation to conspiracy to bomb a public place (Count 6) GUILTY

COUNT 18: "Use and carry" of firearm (Ruger 9mm) in relation to conspiracy to maliciously destroy property (Count 11) GUILTY

 

[NullPointer]

Is this guy up for a thousand years in prison or what?

 

[freenudemacusers]

death penalty seems to be what he wants; i'd rather he sit in a box for the remainder of his life to be honest. adx is no joke. 23 hours alone every day.

 

[sometimes i game]

Even if he admits it I am 100% against the death penalty in this and all cases.

I am hoping against hope that they don't sentence him to death.

He took lives and ruined others. I respect your right to be against it, but we need to send the message that you can't go killing people and then continue living your life in a white room. This is tragic, he took lives.

 

[stufte]

I didn't say that.

And how does smacking your head against a keyboard going "kill kill kill" somehow make anyone better than him?

?

What do you mean by this then? Because I'm reading it as you saying that you question whether someone is "better than him" by wanting him dead. That they are no better than him.

 

[Violence Jack]

I'm also in favor of just locking him up for the rest of his life in solitary confinement. Death seems too easy for him.