Yeah that's pretty much the definition of that phrase!
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Jury sides with Hulk Hogan in his sex tape lawsuit against Gawker & awards him $115m
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Yeah that's pretty much the definition of that phrase!
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/artic...ds-hulk-hogan-115-million-gawker-looks-appeal
This article states Gawker can still ask the court for a stay without paying the bond. It's just not automatic.
BUNTING1243
Banned
But hey man the gross racist who was cool in the eighties gets unimaginable amounts of money. Yaaaaaaaaayyyyy
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Yup.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
He will never see anything of it, short of a couple million. Gawker will be bankrupt after going to the appeal due to lawyer fees.
Are you serious? Forget that aspect of Hulk Hogan, Gawker had an extremely weak case and represented themselves poorly throughout the entire trial. All they had to do was take down the post after a court had ordered them to do so. It is not like leaving the post up garnered a significant amount more ad revenue than when it was initially posted and now they are paying the price.
In his personal life Hulk Hogan can be a disgusting human being and can be shunned by you, others and even myself who finds his comments regarding another race disgusting but in this case involving an individuals privacy he was in the right.
HuskerDutheDu
Member
I think it's like this:
1) not liking a website for reasons valid or not
2) nostalgia
...
36) actual racism
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
As a consumer, I value knowing that Hulk Hogan is a racist so that I can avoid giving him money in the future, but at the same time, I can also say that the fact that I only know about it because of a total breach of privacy by a media company means that, morally, it would be better if he had successfully hidden that aspect of himself his entire life and been a beloved icon of 80s cheese all the way until his death.
Sir_Crocodile
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Recap of the trial:
They will make a motion to the judge for a decrease in that amount. She will decline, Gawker will appeal. If it comes to that, Nick Denton or whoever his friends are that he can get to help will fund the bond for the stay, he's not going to let his company be ruined without fighting to the bone.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Gawker has done more than just leaking an asshole racist's sex tape (privacy be damned I guess), and guess what? They were in a position to actually cause some serious god damn bullshit to ruin people's lives. All for a click.
So no, I don't think (most of) the editorial staff at Gawker is morally better than a has been racist loser. Poetic justice wiuld be Hulk not reciving any money though.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
They can get the bond reduced if they can get the judge to do it, probably at the appeals level.
Even if they can't, Denton got outside investment in the company a few months ago.
I don't see any way this stands at all, none.
Gawker outed a random dude last year for no reason other than a few more clicks. They've actually ruined people's lives in search of another click or two. Or are we just going to ignore that?
Hogan's a racist asshole for damn sure, but as far as we know he hasn't gone out and ruined random people's lives for a couple of clicks on a website.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Calling it. This gets overturned on appeal, then the appeals judge motions for Sting to rappel down from the rafters and give everyone a Scorpion Death Drop, starting with Virgil.
Yup. As easy as it is to paint it as "the future of the free press verses an evil racist", I'm willing to bet that Gawker has caused a lot more collateral damage to society than Hogan.
Honestly, if you go back to the outing of that dude you'll see dozens of journalists calling them out on how utterly disgusting their actions were. Gawker was everything that's wrong with the profession. Everything they did was in search of a click, it if could earn them even another cent they would and have done it.
Tinfoilhatsron
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Exactly. They have made their shitty ecosystem and they deserve to lie in it. Shame about the innocent writers but Gawker has to go.
Not all of them were innocent, a bunch defended the outing of that dude last year.
Yeah I won't defend Gawker or Gawker Media administration. Some of those subsidiaries are collateral damage though, the parent companies shitty culture has penetrated them but not that far.
HuskerDutheDu
Member
You don't have to feel bad for Gawker, can actively hate them, while still hating Hogan for being a piece of shit. You don't have to pick a side. You can just be bummed about the whole situation.
Also, "Hogan's a racist asshole for damn sure, but..."
Your post completely downplayed all the damage Gawker has done so I called you out on it. I'm not forgiving Hogan for shit, which is the whole point of that part you quote. He is a racist asshole and Gawker's gone out and ruined people's lives. I'm just happy they got what's coming to them, if there's any justice Hogan will too.
ElBoxyBrown
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In an ideal world both of them wouldn't get anything out of this. This is literally the lesser of two evils scenario. Worst part is GG is trying to take all the credit as if they started all this and trying to show the world that they were the "good guys" all along.
Topic is about Gawker going under for their lack of care about privacy, not Hogan's racism - there's a long and checkered past of them on other people's privacy beyond Hogan. Do we really have to qualify every statement that references him with "also, he's a racist cunt". This was two scumbags fighting and the best outcome was the one that still had power getting put in the grinder. Ideally, Hogan would get nothing (or better yet have to donate it to anti-racism foundations), but we don't get an ideal world. I'll take Gawker and their complete lack of morals going under on its own.
Jawbreaker
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He was publicly shamed for his racist remarks and fired upon the release of the tape.
HideyoshiJP
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It's all just shades of gray. Clearly, Hulk is no moral compass. Look at the whole shitshow that happened post Hogan Knows Best and really the whole Nick crash thing. Real American or not, he was kind of a trashy jerk.
Still, he had every right to sue, and is totally in the right to have asked to have that illicitly obtained video removed. I hope Kotaku and Jalopnik are sold to a decent knew owner. Them's mostly good people, and even the writers I dislike don't deserve to lose their jobs over this. The old content will have to be stripped from Kinja, unless the buyout includes a non-exclusive license to it. That'll be interesting to migrate.
HuskerDutheDu
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I don't think I downplayed anything? I mean in my first post I said "for valid reasons or not." Gawker's been real terrible, and in many situations haven't necessarily acted ethically. Publicly outing somebody is terrible, and so is posting somebody's sex tape without consent. I'm sure there's others beyond those two examples. I don't have a problem with the ruling at all. It's the response to it that's, personally, kinda gross. Not necessarily you individually (or anyone who's like "He's garbage"), but scrolling through a thread that's about an active racist winning a court case and seeing these celebratory posts doesn't sit right with me--justified ruling or not. It's not like this is Jennifer Lawrence or any of the other actors who had personal pictures leaked getting 115 mil. It's a guy who literally said "I don't want black people dating my daughter." So the ruling, and in this instance Hogan himself, can be right, but that doesn't mean we've got to post gifs of him playing guitar and jumping off the ropes. There can be a more measured response in line with who he is as a person.
I guess what I'm saying, in a round about way, is I don't really care about people being glad about it happening to Gawker, but wish it wasn't being expressed in a way that celebrated a genuinely bad person. That may be equivalent to an argument about semantics, but whatever, I'm fine with that.
ScreenSplitter
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Gawker are a slimy, slimy company so I can't feel too sorry for them. Not that I feel sorry for Hulk.
It's fine. You can fight for what's right, fight for your life, Brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKM1AAzeRCg
I think a lot of people are doing so sarcastically or knowingly for comedic effect.
From the audience perspective it is rather interesting to see the trajectory of Hogan's career and public standing.
Candescence
Member
Well, that happened. RIP Gawker. Hogan's a racist ass, sure, but he still had a right to privacy, and the sex tape wasn't really in the public interest. Shame about the decent sites under Gawker's ownership, though, Kotaku has gotten better over time, and Kotaku AUS is fantastic.
I don't understand why they didn't just release the racist shit and not the porn nonsense.
Hogan being racist would be in the public interest, his weiner is not.
Because a sex tape is more hits.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I must point out that Denton sold a minority stake in Gawker a couple of months ago, and it's also been pointed out that the bond can be reduced.
The appeal will happen, and it'll blow up in Hogan's face worse than the flash paper in his rematch with Ultimate Warrior at Halloween Havoc '98. I'll wager money and/or my tag on this, I'm that confident. As Scott Steiner would say, there's a 143 1/3% chance this gets overturned.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Nah, Hogan will use his creative control clause if there's a whiff of anything like that
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
WanderingWind
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Compound sentences are problematic.
$115m
Sir_Crocodile
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Last I checked, Eric Bischoff isn't practicing appellate law in Florida.
He's been doing a lot of politicking backstage brother
Hulk talking about the differences between Hulk Hogans and Terry Bollea penis size is etched on my brain thanks to this trail.
If jalopnik goes down i'll be sad
The more I think about it though 115m seems really excessive, shouldn't this amount be way lower and just go after who ever made the call to ignore the order to take it down? Lots of people may be out of a job over this and that's not right
If jalopnik goes down i'll be sad
The more I think about it though 115m seems really excessive, shouldn't this amount be way lower and just go after who ever made the call to ignore the order to take it down? Lots of people may be out of a job over this and that's not right
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