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Just Mafia |OT| Sometimes You Don't Need A Reason to Lynch Your Friends

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CrimsonFist

Member
dusk soldier (0)
acohrs 67 (403)

no lynch (2)
karkador 75
blargonaut 106 (225)
blargonaut 253

necktochicken (0)
melonrabbit 80 (215)

karkador (2)
zubz 81 (114)
isaacnukem 104
blargonaut 225 (253)
rac 378

launchpadmcq (1)
cornburrito 96

blargonaut (0)
zubz 114 (441)

kitsunelaine (0)
weemadarthur 141 (445)

fat4all (0)
fat4all 183 (183)

weemadarthur (0)
kitsunelaine 184 (464)

franconp (2)
kalor 198
dusk soldier 283

cornburrito (1)
lone_prodigy 279

lone_prodigy (1)
hey_monkey 395

cewyn (1)
zubz 441

zubz (2)
weemadarthur 445
kitsunelaine 464

Day Ends:
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D

Dusk Soldier

Member
nin1000 said:
Yeah, made a mistake sorry.

Initially i did not want to have you on that list since your posts had at least some substance. I then realized naw man add him back.

Posted.

And then realized i did not even cut you off to begin with lol


But Sure, give me your impressions on the game.
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To give my thoughts on the game so far...

>>>Operation no Lunch

There's is pretty much always a Lynch/noLynch discussion that rarely goes anywhere in these games, so I haven't really bothered commenting on it previously. Kark did bring up 2 really good points.

i. We're mostly likely going to lynch town. D1 is statistically the worst odds for hitting scum
ii. Frankly, I don't trust this group to reread D1 to make sense of the voting patterns

However I don't really believe a no Lynch will happen so I'm not going to push for one.

>>>on Franconp
main reason I voted for franconp was to see which players would argue against it.

melonrabbit,fat4all and hey_monkey all popped in to quell pressure against franconp, so that's a quartet I'll be watching closely from here on out.

>>>on Zubz
very safe talking point for people to pretend like they're contributing lol.


>>>on SchNINdler's list

I'm sure there's at least 1 scum hiding in the low activity players. Cewyn, LoneProdigy, isaacnukem, and Kalor with the lowest point counts.

The one that sticks out to me the most from this list is LoneProdigy, as Cewyn and Kalor rarely post much, and isaac is new and probably just nervous to post,

>>>onBlarg

Un homme difficile a lire. Je suis experimente contre lui et son vrai stratageme ne devoilera pas si tot. L'equipe scum ne va pas l'assassiner a mon avis, alors si on veut le supprimer de cette jeu, on doit le faire soi-meme.

translation:
Honestly don't understand what's going on there. Not going to waste my time trying to decipher his riddles. When's he's ready to get serious I'm game.

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Top two suspects at this point are franconp and LoneProdigy.

Top town would definitely be every newbie playing this game lol.
 
F

Fat4all

Banned
I quoted it in my comment.

franconp said:
Hey doggo, you were playing the game. I almost forgot about it. Some insight please.

What do you think about this recent push against me?
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To which I answered

Fat4all said:
It's not exactly 'recent', more kinda of stretched over the course of the early day. And it doesn't really seem to be going anywhere at the moment anyways. Fizzled a bit. If you do have enemies that want you gone on day-one, I see that push coming in the last hours of the day.

Quick, 'last-minute', 'I suppose I'll vote alone with ___' votes. Those are the ones that you gotta watch out for.
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franconp

Member
Dusk Soldier said:
>>>on Franconp
main reason I voted for franconp was to see which players would argue against it.

melonrabbit,fat4all and hey_monkey all popped in to quell pressure against franconp, so that's a quartet I'll be watching closely from here on out.
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You are missing Wee on that list. I also think Acohrs and Nin were against but would need to recheck.

Also you can add the people who jumped on the vote like Kalor or Isaac.

Just to keep a better record.
 
N

nin1000

Banned
Rac, please elaborate a tad more. We have over 10 hours left , yet here we are and you have not really contributed much, or even tried to .
 
A

acohrs

Member
was rereading the kitsune and weemadarthur convo, don't get any gut feelings from it, feels just like wee training a nub, NAI for both of them.

Don't want to vote for Zubz, theirs was just a terrible NAI gambit.

hmmm...
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K

kitsunelaine

Banned
acohrs said:
Oh? Interesting, so what do you think of wees attempt to teach you? Did it feel genuine or an easy go at a nub?
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It felt genuine, and perhaps it would have gone over more informatively with another person. But I wasn't afraid of seeing my name in red, I was more or less just totally befuddled by his course of action until he explained it.
 
A

acohrs

Member
kitsunelaine said:
It felt genuine, and perhaps it would have gone over more informatively with another person. But I wasn't afraid of seeing my name in red, I was more or less just totally befuddled by his course of action until he explained it.
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She*

What do you think so far of your first day here?
 
A

acohrs

Member
kitsunelaine said:
Whoops, sorry, my bad. I forgot that people's preferred pronouns were listed in OP.

As for my first day? It's been a ride.
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No worries, we all make that mistake.

That's Interesting, for me it feels a bit like more of the same but I've been here a while. Who or what do you find most suspicious so far?
 
K

kitsunelaine

Banned
acohrs said:
Do you think it was alignment indicative though?
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I'm gonna have to say yes, tentatively. Only because it's weird as hell and focuses on drawing attention to you instead of away from you, so it feels like it's intended to be a reverse-subversion. Leading you to think that only someone playing this crazy wouldn't be Mafia, but they actually are.
 
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franconp

Member
I just made a quick reread of the day so far and there are people with really low activity and even less opinions.

Some reads on some of the players:

LP: really low activity. Almost nothing with substance. It checks with his scum MO where he has really low activity and keep coasting.

Neck: Jumped really quickly in a town claim. A bit of discussion about general mafia playstyle but not really much about this game. A newbie, so still doubting about him.

Launch: I only played once with Launch and it was a really long time ago but I remembered him being a prolific poster and engaged in discussion. We have none of it here. Low post, less insight.

Rac: Another low poster. Didn't engaged in any discussion or gave something to work with.

Kalor: Also low activity. What I find weird is how he jumped from against No Lynch to pro No Lynch.

Corn: Low activity also. The few posts that he has are only related to the No Lynch talk. Nothing more.

Cewyn: Is he even playing?

I think I feel better about Melon and Nin. Both seem like they usual townies play.

Blarg is playing weird. Really think he may be scum but I also find him really difficult to read. Don't want to vote here yet.


I'm thinking making a vote between Corn, Launch or LP as I find them the most suspicious.
 
A

acohrs

Member
kitsunelaine said:
I'm gonna have to say yes, tentatively. Only because it's weird as hell and focuses on drawing attention to you instead of away from you, so it feels like it's intended to be a reverse-subversion. Leading you to think that only someone playing this crazy wouldn't be Mafia, but they actually are.
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See, I would see it the other way. On D1, I would assume that mafia would not attempt stupid gambits so as not to stick out too much. In my first full game as mafia, I played too aggressively and got lynched D1 because of it. So my opinion is that mafia will be those on D1 that you least suspect.

However zubz' s gambit wasn't a very towny move so doesn't make me lean town on them either. This is why it's NAI to me.
 
K

kitsunelaine

Banned
acohrs said:
See, I would see it the other way. On D1, I would assume that mafia would not attempt stupid gambits so as not to stick out too much. In my first full game as mafia, I played too aggressively and got lynched D1 because of it. So my opinion is that mafia will be those on D1 that you least suspect.

However zubz' s gambit wasn't a very towny move so doesn't make me lean town on them either. This is why it's NAI to me.
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Right, you *would* assume that! That's my point. I think he's playing on those expectations.
 
H

hey_monkey

Banned
What is NAI?

I think kitsunelaine is saying what I was thinking - if we wanted to draw lines through possible motivations it could easily be a "let me look like a target so I will get ignored because it's too obvious" but I'm really not sure. At this time I'd assume a town gambit, but Zubz said some weird stuff, like really weird, so all things considered I would still rank him at #2.

Once I get settled, I will have some more extended thoughts.
 
K

kitsunelaine

Banned
hey_monkey said:
What is NAI?

I think kitsunelaine is saying what I was thinking - if we wanted to draw lines through possible motivations it could easily be a "let me look like a target so I will get ignored because it's too obvious" but I'm really not sure. At this time I'd assume a town gambit, but Zubz said some weird stuff, like really weird, so all things considered I would still rank him at #2.

Once I get settled, I will have some more extended thoughts.
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Yeah, it's a gambit that will be exceptionally beneficial for them if it sucseeds. High risk high reward.
 
M

melonrabbit

Member
All right. I'm up finally.

I've spoken about a few people. Not a lot has changed.

LP - has added very little of anything and I don't think even got through all the one sentence "#" posts.

Monkey - Feeling confident in Monkey as I previously expressed. Despite people going very quiet she is still pushing for the discussion to continue. You could argue that scum would benefit from also doing this but she has set off any red flags.

Dusk Soldier - Like I said I don't see Fran is a lynch candidate at all and this mini push seem weird. I can't remember from previous games how active Dusk usually is but he, like a lot of people seem to be background players.

Nin - is nin.

NeckToChicken - Giving a pass a newbie but would like to see more on D2.

weemadarthur and kitsunelaine - I think wee and kitsunelanie's interaction was interesting. A veteran showing the newbie the ropes. It could also be argued that it was "staged" to look as such but would be both are scum and while I could see the main thread convo being "staged" I honestly believe scum chat would've immediately corrected kitsunelaine on her use of edits. So I'm left to think that the exchange was genuine for the moment. Or Wee is scum.

Aco - so so quiet and very little rugby talk.

LaunchpadMcQ - Who?

Karkador - Does a Kark-like gambit and completely derails the game D1. Yup. That's Kark. Unfortunately it doesn't tell us alignment. Not someone I feel strongly about one way or another.

rac & isaacnukem -- Speaking of Kark has either of these two justified their vote on him? They've barely elaborated on anything all game.

franconp - Strongest town vibes.

Zubz - Had a gambit blow up in his face. But I can't figure out why a scum would do such a thing. Draws way too much attention.

Fat4all; Blargonaut; Kalor; CornBurrito; Cewyn - Why is everyone so quiet???
 
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weemadarthur

Member
hey_monkey said:
What is NAI?

I think kitsunelaine is saying what I was thinking - if we wanted to draw lines through possible motivations it could easily be a "let me look like a target so I will get ignored because it's too obvious" but I'm really not sure. At this time I'd assume a town gambit, but Zubz said some weird stuff, like really weird, so all things considered I would still rank him at #2.

Once I get settled, I will have some more extended thoughts.
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I think he means Not Alignment Indicative.

kitsunelaine said:
It felt genuine, and perhaps it would have gone over more informatively with another person. But I wasn't afraid of seeing my name in red, I was more or less just totally befuddled by his course of action until he explained it.
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You were completely unable to talk about anything in the game outside of me while I had a vote on you, and only since I removed it have you mentioned Zubz doing weird things. But the mafia hide best by NOT doing weird things. And you will be befuddled by everyone. Especially in a game with this cast, if I may say so.
But that's vote pressure - the second reason I voted for you. It lets me figure out whether I think you're scum.
Still, I like the fact that you're already trying to Inception your thoughts, so I'll let you go until day two. Please keep sharing thoughts on the other players as well, don't get too caught up in one person.
 
M

melonrabbit

Member
franconp said:
I disagree regarding Fat4all. He is still in a neutral zone but has been participating.

You have played with Blarg before. Is it me or Blarg isn't as commited as he usually is?
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Yes, Fat has been participating but I don't know if I would describe at quite the activity levels I've seen from him in other games. To me, he is quiet for him.

I completely agree about Blarg. Normally, he had some long-winded posts, crazy theories, something going on page after page. And really the only thing he has done is jumped on the No Lynch wagon and make vague reference to "knowing" Fat's role.

Not sure what is up there.
 
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weemadarthur

Member
Karkador said:
Okay, claim accepted.


  • No claim yet from LP on whether they're scum or not.
  • NecktoChicken took us on a long walk of hypotheticals to claim...generic town. Not sure why.
  • hey_monkey wont commit to an alignment, just basically telling us "we're all town" (#alllivesmatter), an approach that avoids any need to lie about your alignment or commit to a statement.
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Karkador said:
Not true. I've talked about hey_monkey and Zubz
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I found it! Where you talked about them! And another post you said zubz gambit thing wasn't enough to vote him. But, like, in the end, all you've said is you null read EVERYONE you've talked about. So, you have no contributions except no lynch and null.

I thought you'd have more than that by now.
 
M

melonrabbit

Member
nin1000 said:
I disagree. Its a lazy way of not really investing any time into reading my posts.
Could you at least put your thoughts down on me for those who have never played with me ?
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Okay. Okay.

My thoughts are you are that you are engaging with other players. Questioning people and pretty tactful with observations y'know once you get past all the shitposting. Really though, I do think you're making an effort to keep the game going and I'm happy you called me out on my laziness. Your behavior thus far has been "typical Nin" and I believe I've only ever played with you when you were town. So, I feel general okay but then I have no real background for what Scum!Nin might appear to be.
 
K

Karkador

Banned
weemadarthur said:
I found it! Where you talked about them! And another post you said zubz gambit thing wasn't enough to vote him. But, like, in the end, all you've said is you null read EVERYONE you've talked about. So, you have no contributions except no lynch and null.

I thought you'd have more than that by now.
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When did I say I null read hey_monkey?
 
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weemadarthur

Member
franconp said:
@Wee: Deadline is closer, Who are you voting for?

Who do you feel more townie too?
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You and monkey seem townie. Could be scum just calmly and quietly making sense on day one, but it's enough to get to the top of my town list for today. You've both brought up new points and kept the conversation moving.

I'm not liking any of the half dozen lowest posters, because they have had very little post content. Also that's a common place for scum to hide when nobody is threatening them.

Still analyzing post content of the higher volume posters.
 
R

rac

Banned
kark would you change your vote by the end of the day to save yourself or are you going to keep your vote on no lynch?
 
K

Karkador

Banned
weemadarthur said:
You said nothing committal whatsoever. You said she was noncommittal.

I interpreted your understanding as null, because you said nothing to show any other belief.
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I'm curious to know what kind of statement you consider "committal" at this point in time, from anyone. Even votes will start changing sooner or later, I'm sure.

If you need my direct indictment, I would vote on hey_monkey for sounding like a mafia player, if I wasn't trying to get a No Lynch passed.
 
A

acohrs

Member
don't agree with monkey or kits, but different strokes different folks.

Think I know what Kark is doing with their current vote and plan, would be inline with how they play from my brief experience
 
Z

Zubz

Banned
kitsunelaine said:
Yeah, it's a gambit that will be exceptionally beneficial for them if it sucseeds. High risk high reward.
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So first of all? You seem way too knowledgeable for a new player based on your previous posts. I'm, like, 99% certain someone's giving you suggestions & hot tips about this game outside of this thread. This doesn't inherently mean "Scum," but it's definitely likely. Granted, could be a Lovers type deal (I mean, come on, my first GAFia game had me on a team with TWE; no way I'd ignore a teammate).

I'd feel bad voting for a new player, but it seems Cewyn's just dropped out, & Scum is Scum.

You are right, though. These machinations are high risk, high reward. But the reward will be worth it if it pans out.
 
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