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[sajj316]

2013 games .. that I know of. I would like Sony to show more of their cards.

Will most likely get US/EU releases:
- Killzone Mercenary
- Tearaway
- Dragon's Crown
- Soul Sacrifice
- Sly 4
- Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus 2
- God Eater 2
- Phantasy Star Online 2
- Oboro Muramasa
- Valhalla Knights 3
- Gundam Breaker

Probably won't see the light of day outside Japan:
- Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus - probably won't be localized
- Toukiden - probably won't be localized
- Ore no Shikabane wo Koete Yuke Sequel - probably won't be localized

 

[chertipros]

Isn't 3DS doing GBA-ish globally? There's still room for handhelds, I think. I just don't know what it'd take for Vita to make a comeback. I'm buying a glorious looking blue one early next year because I love handhelds, but I have to admit I'm struggling to find "system sellers" for me.

Hell no. The gba was a sales monster that only had a short life of about 3 1/2 years with nintendo trying to kill it off in the last year so It wouln't demolish the OG DS's sales. And it still managed 83 million sold ww

 

[erpg]

I'm not an insider or anything like that. It's just stuff I've picked up here and there. It could all be nonsense, for all I care. Next gen for me will consist of PC, Nintendo and OUYA. I honestly don't care too much about what Sony are doing, aside from the ramifications for the industry as a whole if they were to sell PS.

Here and there and where?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

There are alot of games for the vita. If you don't know about them , you haven't been paying attention. Unless you live in Japan. There it is a problem at the moment at least.

The biggest problem is that Japanese developers are still making games for PSP, and haven't fully jumped to Vita.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

Honestly, they should just kill it and cut to the inevitable. Write the thing off, get some tax incentives.

 

[Derrick01]

Derrick being negative about everything BUT the Vita is like some bizarro world bullshit

I mean the games could end up sucking, I dunno. There's a lot I want to try out though.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Why invest in Vita long-term if you're not planning on holding on to the Playstation brand? To put it another way, since about two months ago rumours have had Sony looking to sell their Playstation operation lock, stock and barrel on to another Asian concern. Having Vita and a working Playstation 4 prototype on their books will do wonders for the asking price.

Lol, person on internet believes what they read on the internet.

I am happy with the vita. There are 5 games coming for it next year that I want and there will most likely be more. Here's hoping it picks up in the future though, shame it isn't selling better. It needs to address the image of it being doomed. Nearly every site shuns it, every message board bashes it, and real world sales aren't great.

 

[MrChocolate]

Just like they should have killed the PS3?
:lol

 

[DragonSworne]

Sony can't kill the PSV because they would need to realize all the lost profits on it in one quarter instead of spreading it out over years.

This would plummet the shares and cause them to go bankrupt.

Sony will keep the PSV around for the shake of spreading out loses over multiple quarters.


Think people

 

[imjust1n]

It takes time to make games people. Chill out. The vita is just expensive. No one wants to fork over the money for the games that are out. I own a vita and bought the first edition one. I love it I think it has potential and if Sony does end it's life oh well mine will be worth way more the better what I paid for it in the future. The system is really nice if nice games come out for it next year I can see a price drop and good things for it.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Why would they sink the best handheld gaming device there is? op needs less privileges imo.

*snort*

 

[Oersted]

The same could be said about vita though its of course not selling as well obviously.

Vita isn't dead till Sony says so not because some randoms on a forum says so. We've seen this with the PS3. They will deliver if how they treated the PS3 line up is anything to go by and how they turned it around.

PS3 had the HD twin, Vita...

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

I get that part of the appeal for Vita is supposed to be the ability to play your PSN (PS1 games) and PSP library on tha glorious screen!

Problem is if you already OWN a PSP you can do JUST that right now minus the great Vita screen, so that is not enough of an incentive for people like us, Sony NEEDS to get extremely high quality EXCLUSIVE Vita content out there ASAP, not sure what the holdup is, PS3 seems to still be getting great games so i doubt it's impossible to do the same for Vita?

 

[HardRojo]

Most handheld gamers don't want a handheld PS3, they want portable games that can be played in small increments or are unique to the hardware.

I want to know how you arrived to that conclusion because from what I've seen, read and talk ed with my friends it seems like people prefer to play their handheld consoles mostly in their houses while in bed or the couch, you name it.

Also, 3DS games are unique to the hardware? TloZ:OoT, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario 3D Land, StarFox 64, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil The Mercenaries, Ninja Gaiden, Paper Mario, SSFIV, DoA, etc say hi.

 

[Boerseun]

They wanted to grab western market which is never a market for a handheld without Mario on it. It makes sense that they allocated more resource to investing into western centered IPs (COD, Uncharted, Resistance, LBP, etc) for that goal. Unfortunately most consumers and developers don't care the handheld entries of those IPs. Also their strategy naturally resulted in less resource for the Japanese market where handheld consoles matter. They probably thought in Japan the PSP to Vita transition would happen automatically without a problem, until Nintendo aggressively got Monster Hunter.

And the reason for western gamers to like the PSP is the Japanese game library in the first place. Now, SCE lost Japanese market and probably won't have a chance to get any attention from the Western market. So, yeah, they are screwed.

There was a report back in 2008 that had Sony subsidising Japanese PSP development to the tune of maximum $2 million per title. The result was many titles selling in the hundreds (yes, hundreds) of copies. But at least you had those titles in the catalogue, even if few people were buying them. That gave PSP the appearance of a thriving platform. (Quantity being as important as quality is something Nintendo have yet to learn, for example.)

A Vita game potentially costs as much as a Ps3 game to develop. There is no way Sony can subsidise that sort of cost. The result - fewer games.

 

[ohlawd]

Why would they sink the best handheld gaming device there is?

Gross misspelling of the GBA, DS and PSP

 

[Salsa]

lol?

yes. Keep posting random pictures of what I assume to be Yoshida and other people at Sony without giving any context assuming I would understand it as if my life depended on being constantly up to date on minor news around a company that makes a console I dont own

can you please respond to the post with a counter argument or source to a situation that proved opposite to my statement instead of posting a fucking picture?

 

[MagiusNecros]

yes. Keep posting random pictures of what I assume to be Yoshida and other people at Sony without giving any context assuming I would understand it as if my life depended on being constantly up to date on minor news around a company that makes a console I dont own

can you please respond to the post with a counter argument instead of posting a fucking picture?

Pictures are worth a thousand words.

 

[patapuf]

what surprises me most is that sony is so stingy with capture units.

Game sites are great for free advertisment but they can't even do their own videos, diminishing the Vita's already small prescence in the media. Sending a few out would be cheaper than an ad campaign and probably be more effective than one too.

 

[chertipros]

Better software line up this holiday than consoles(in the west). Bye

Oh and buy one if you love it so much

If by "consoles" you mean wii then yeah sure

 

[gofreak]

I wonder why they keep it alive.

If it's low-impact on their bottom line...why not? There's things they can try over the longer term to extend its utility, give it a role in their ecosystem, and turn a bit of profit on it as a device, even if it's not a massive money spinner or the specific Vita software platform doesn't do huge business.

For example, I would keep it around so I had an exemplary and (in time) cheap mobile client for streamed PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4 games and PSM.

If the business is more or less breaking even there seems little reason not to keep it going and to give some things a go later.

 

[RM8]

Hell no. The gba was a sales monster that only had a short life of about 3 1/2 years with nintendo trying to kill it off in the last year so It wouln't demolish the OG DS's sales. And it still managed 83 million sold ww

Is this too optimistic, then? :/

Can't believe this is a thing that is happening because of phone games.

 

[Kyon]

Just like they should have killed the PS3?
:lol

SOMEONE gets it!

Vita is unbothered and will remain that way till Sony gets that already amazing 2013 line up solidified with more games. Also the price cut is next year so that would certainly help.


OP should buy Vita and Mutant Blob Attacks as well as Gravity Rush, Assassins Creed, LittleBigPlanet, Persona 4 Golden, and whatever else that Vita has to offer that he might like and just PLAY.

Done tbh

 

[CambriaRising]

what surprises me most is that sony is so stingy with capture units.

Game sites are great for free advertisment but they can't even do their own videos diminishing the Vita's already small prescence in the media. Sending a few out would be cheaper than an ad campaign and probably be more effective than one too.

Yeah, I don't understand why they aren't letting sites get ahold of these. I would love to see some GB quicklooks of Vita games.

 

[erpg]

yes. Keep posting random pictures of what I assume to be Yoshida and other people at Sony without giving any context assuming I would understand it as if my life depended on being constantly up to date on minor news around a company that makes a console I dont own

can you please respond to the post with a counter argument or source to a situation that proved opposite to my statement instead of posting a fucking picture?

Well, if you aren't really interested, I'll leave you in ignorant bliss. It's easier to argue against something that way, I find.

I'm doing you a favour!

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

The same could be said about vita though its of course not selling as well obviously.

Vita isn't dead till Sony says so not because some randoms on a forum says so. We've seen this with the PS3. They will deliver if how they treated the PS3 line up is anything to go by and how they turned it around.

Fair enough, though when somebody makes the comment "Handheld gaming is dead outside mobiles" in reference to Vita as an excuse for it's poor sales it makes no sense to lump the significantly more successful 3DS in with it.

 

[boingball]

I wonder what Sony is doing overall. The Vita is dying in silence. Sony is hoping to get some awesome 3rd party support, but the PSP should tell them that that will not happen by it's own. Assassin's Creed and NFS were looking not bad but still they are about 20% worse than the console versions, Call of Duty, their big hope, will probably get terrible reviews.

On the PS3 they increase the prices ("Customer wants value."), they don't have any new releases and the games they release are stealth games no one knows about (Sport Champions 2 last week, Little Big Planet Karting this week (there is not even an OT on NeoGAF for it).

It looks like they are in a cash-flow first stance, i.e. don't spend any money to make money but cut costs so that the money which is still coming in makes us survive one more day.

On a personal note, I am still waiting for the Firmware upgrade which lets me allow to play games region-free (e.g. playing a US game with US DLC on my European PSN account like my PS3 allows me to do). Though I might pick the Vita up from the bargain bin once it is dead, there are some games I am interested in on it. The best case scenario though that the Vita will become a success in Japan (like the PSP) and will then at least give a steady flow of JRPGs (like the PSP) seems to not happen anymore.

 

[WickedLaharl]

Spoiler

 

[Takao]

yes. Keep posting random pictures of what I assume to be Yoshida and other people at Sony without giving any context assuming I would understand it as if my life depended on being constantly up to date on minor news around a company that makes a console I dont own

If you don't follow the news, how can you say the company never admits to being wrong? The first image is of Kaz Hirai and Sony's board of directors apologizing to consumers after the PSN hack. The second is indeed Yoshida, a man who's very honest in what he says. A few months ago he admitted that the company did take third party support for Vita for granted, assuming it would be there just because. Now, whether or not the company learns from these mistakes and betters them is something we've yet to see. Realistically, they can't afford an $80 panic price cut on Vita and without the software it probably wouldn't do much anyways.

 

[MaverickHunterAsh]

Handheld gaming is dead outside mobiles. It's just a matter of time before Sony pull the plug.

The 3DS and hard facts regarding its sales disagree with you.

 

[Kyon]

Fair enough, though when somebody makes the comment "Handheld gaming is dead outside mobiles" in reference to Vita as an excuse for it's poor sales it makes no sense to lump the significantly more successful 3DS in with it.

Oh I agree lol.

 

[jman2050]

If it's low-impact on their bottom line...why not? There's things they can try over the longer term to extend its utility, give it a role in their ecosystem, and turn a bit of profit on it as a device, even if it's not a massive money spinner or the specific Vita software platform doesn't do huge business.

For example, I would keep it around so I had an exemplary and (in time) cheap mobile client for streamed PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4 games and PSM.

If the business is more or less breaking even there seems little reason not to keep it going and to give some things a go later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

 

[Delusibeta]

Dedicated handhelds in the West have been given their last rites. Basically, nobody gives a shit about them any more: it's all about iOS and Android. And before you raise the 3DS, it's being doing GBA numbers outside of Japan, and software has been fairly disappointing across the board.

 

[Skyzard]

^I really believe people are slow to 'progress'/change and can honestly see handheld gaming at home almost outnumbering console gaming in the future for the convenience and less and less drawbacks.

Gross misspelling of the GBA, DS and PSP

I've been playing NFS MW non-stop, it's had an affect on me

I want to know how you arrived to that conclusion because from what I've seen, read and talk ed with my friends it seems like people prefer to play their handheld consoles mostly in their houses while in bed or the couch, you name it.

Also, 3DS games are unique to the hardware? TloZ:OoT, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario 3D Land, StarFox 64, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil The Mercenaries, Ninja Gaiden, Paper Mario, SSFIV, DoA, etc say hi.

Same, made basically the same post. It is really convenient.

 

[Bgamer90]

Also, 3DS games are unique to the hardware? TloZ:OoT, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario 3D Land, StarFox 64, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil The Mercenaries, Ninja Gaiden, Paper Mario, SSFIV, DoA, etc say hi.

But a good number of those games are "pick up and play" in nature even if they have similar versions on consoles (and this is especially true when it comes to Mario games).

 

[Supermanisdead]

Lol at 3DS being brought up whenever Vita's abysmal sales are mentioned. If it's "struggling," Vita has already died, been picked clean by vultures and is growing mushrooms from it's disgusting remains.

 

[RM8]

Dedicated handhelds in the West have been given their last rites. Basically, nobody gives a shit about them any more: it's all about iOS and Android.

As if the West saying Japan has bad taste in gaming wasn't silly before.

 

[Oersted]

Or maybe..It isn't as big of a money drain as people here seem to think?



Okay, be smug. That will totally help your argument.

Oh come on, your post (not yourself) was just silly. Access to 70 games means it has the smallest games library out there. It offers not so much else. Why would average consumer care for such a deal?

 

[GQman2121]

The Battle Royal beta is pretty impressive. But many of the games have underwelmed me. Madden, FIFA, and even Liberation show a surprising lack of polish when compared to some of the other titles in the systems library. Those three were clearly thrown together with b, maybe even c, development teams. Still, there are a decent number of very good to great games (folks seem to be pleased with NFS) available they just need more.

Personally, I love the playback quality of the PSP and PSX games. In fact, that's also one of the biggest issues I have with the state the systems in. The majority of the prices for PSP titles is absurd. $30 for Silent Hill and Peace Walker? $20 for the three GTA's and God Of War's? What the hell is the reasoning behind those pricing models? Every PSP game should be below $15 at this point. There are a few deals to be had: $15 for The Warriors or the Killzone/Syphon Filter bundle seems fair. But there's not enough.

All PSX games are $6-10. With the new store should come new pricing and advertising to push eyeballs in that direction.

 

[StevePharma]

For what it's worth I think Nintendo is doing a terrible job on 3DS in the West this holiday season as well. Vita has had a rough start but I'm confident there will be a turnaround. It's an amazing handheld, has tons of possibilities to grow, software line-up into next year isn't as big but neither is the 3DS one. Playstation Plus should hopefully make for a great incentive to try stuff on Vita, combine that with stuff like Cross-buy and I see no way why Sony would pull the plug on this thing (yet anyway).

Hopefully both 3DS and Vita will have a strong 2013.

 

[Salsa]

If you don't follow the news, how can you say the company never admits to being wrong? The first image is of Kaz Hirai and Sony's board of directors apologizing to consumers after the PSN hack. The second is indeed Yoshida, a man who's very honest in what he says. A few months ago he admitted that the company did take third party support for Vita for granted, assuming it would be there just because. Now, whether or not the company learns from these mistakes and betters them is something we've yet to see. Realistically, they can't afford an $80 panic price cut on Vita and without the software it probably wouldn't do much anyways.

this is what your post should have been. The fact that I said what I said shows that I clearly did not know about Yoshida admiting to that, no need for me to explain that I dont necesarelly follow those news that closely. I can make a statement and then be proven wrong.

That said: I also dont own a 3DS, and somehow I knew about Iwata's direct apology and showing of plans on how to move forward, followed with a price-drop and reward system for the early buyers. That's the kind of thing I mean

 

[gofreak]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

Well, they arguably need to keep their handheld around to actually explore some of the new businesses they're looking at more comprehensively.

For example, it'll be kind of handy to have a game-optimised mobile terminal around whenever they launch their cloud service. There'll be many other clients too, of course, but they kind of should have one with proper game control nubbins too. People would call them negligent if they didn't.

I'd also ask again, just how much is it costing them to keep it ticking over...it seems to me to be a pretty low risk thing.

 

[Tallshortman]

It seems like most of these threads are started by people who don't even own the hardware.

 

[Bgamer90]

Fair enough, though when somebody makes the comment "Handheld gaming is dead outside mobiles" in reference to Vita as an excuse for it's poor sales it makes no sense to lump the significantly more successful 3DS in with it.

Yep. Like I said before, if the Vita came out before iOS/iPhone, the system would still more than likely do poorly.

 

[leroidys]

I had the same thoughts, but broke down when I saw them for so cheap on craigslist.

To be quite honest, the current library blew away my expectations. There is WAY too much to play, especially if you count psp and psx games.

The horizon doesn't look too promising, but Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway, and apparently a Gravity Rush sequel keep me from regretting my purchase.

 

[ghst]

Game Dev Story for iOS (Look it up)

i want something on more of an imperial scale. think paradox.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Been looking for a reason to buy it as well. I was on the fence when it came out but now I don't even care.

same. I had one pre-ordered, than got cold feet. Now it's not even a thought of a thought.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Right now both handhelds are in the situation where there are a lot of games people seem to like but still nothing that'd make me buy either system. Doesn't help that the 3DS is region locked and the Vita has no clamshell design (sue me).

 

[Currygan]

Sony will never admit Vita is a failure. It's not because they're stubborn, I believe, but the extremely poor performance must have been quite a shock, getting them completely off-guard and clueless as to why the thing isn't selling. They shouldn't kill it, but if they haven't done a massive price cut and secured some big hitters after one goddamned year, it could mean they just can't. So, unless there's a highly unlikely resurrection down the road, the console is in a state of semi-abandon today.

Don't even bring the 3DS into this convo...Sony has done absolutely nothing compared to what Iwata did to save the system. And sales, while not great, are still much better than Vita's

Why would they sink the best handheld gaming device there is? op needs less privileges imo.

well poor sales are already sinking it. WB Skyzard

 

[Delusibeta]

As if the West saying Japan has bad taste in gaming wasn't silly before.

Saying cold facts here: Nintendo have been very open about how disappointed they are with the 3DS' performance outside of Japan. It's clear to me that in the West, iOS and Android have almost completely taken over the market.