That too, but he's got a really good record of his opinions being upheld and he's exactly where Obama wants him to be in regards to gun control. If he gets put on the court and nothing else changes then Heller is still going away the next time it's challenged.
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That too, but he's got a really good record of his opinions being upheld and he's exactly where Obama wants him to be in regards to gun control. If he gets put on the court and nothing else changes then Heller is still going away the next time it's challenged.
I get that reference
NobleXenon
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If Republicans did that, it would still be a 4-3 or 5-2 liberal decision.
SchrodingerC
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The plan is falling into place. Once Hillary is elected Obama can be chosen as a new Justice.
The amount of GOP salt would sustain me for a lifetime.
The amount of GOP salt would sustain me for a lifetime.
This country is about to change, isn't?
It already has, we're just going to see that accelerated. Age of Obama right now.
Bobby Roberts
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Is the Washington Examiner the only paper of note (such as it is) running with this?
Fair enough. But yeah, I think we're going to start seeing a country of progressiveness with conservatives left kicking and screaming but with nothing they can do about it.
Its even bigger than that. Ginsberg and Beyer can step down and be replaced with Justices thatll be on the court for 25-30 years.
Having control of the House and a majority of governors and state houses is certainly going to make it difficult (and is certainly not "nothing"). Also its unlikely Dems will maintain control of the Senate.
I have faith, maybe misplaced, in my fellow democrats voting in midterms thanks to Trump. The House maybe not so much.
Hickbilly Deluxe
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You cant overturn an amendment. You can repeal it, but good luck getting 3/4ths of the country to agree to that when all polls say the greater majority of people want to not do that.
People's hatred of firearms on this forum is fucking fascinating.
Yeah I seriously doubt it will happen in my life time. Stricter restrictions, but no ban this century.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, this is the only news outlet even discussing this "rumor."
The Washington Examiner isn't a particularly notable or noteworthy news source. Not to say he might not actually be considering retirement, but I don't know that this sole report from a not-well-known source is evidence of it.
The Washington Examiner isn't a particularly notable or noteworthy news source. Not to say he might not actually be considering retirement, but I don't know that this sole report from a not-well-known source is evidence of it.
Mine's got a hair on it.
DragonSworne
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Why is he waiting? Let Obama pick the next nominee.
VendettaRed07
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the second amendment isn't just an amendment. It's apart of the bill of rights. I don't think the federal government even has the authority to repeal it with its current powers. Think we would have to completely start over with a new constitution to get rid of it.
The ones after the tenth are up for grabs though.
KuwabaraTheMan
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The second ammendment doesn't need to be overturned, but just properly interpreted.
Hey that sounds like something the Supreme Court would be good at.
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Maybe, maybe not. I'm more interested in seeing what lame excuse Republicans give for reversing course.
Black Republican
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But but, Clinton is worse than trump though!
If forced to guess, I'd bet that he steps down after the GOP likely recaptures the Senate in 2018. That'd be the moderating counter-force in his favor.
The 2018 Senate map is downright brutal for Dems, so any court packing that'll take place over Hillary's first term would be done between 2017 and 2019.
Even if she wins one term, she'd be flipping Scalia's seat and renewing the liberal wing with young justices. A young, liberal 5-4 majority is her worst-case scenario.
Can't overturn the amendment, but they can overturn the stupid fucking Heller v DC decision and reinterpret it the way it had been interpreted for most of our country's existence.
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Maple-Tech
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Because he's waiting for Trump, so he can get a successor who has similar views.
People don't understand that when he says "considering retiring" he really means "I'll retire if a republican wins the general election. He's 67, so he'll probably wait 4 more years if Hilary wins.
VendettaRed07
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I think the best thing to do would be to pass a constitutional amendment to better define the terms of what it means, and what sort of arms it refers to or what sort of regulation we allow..if that's possible.
Same thing with the fourth amendment. Add another amendment to better define it to protect people from internet NSA spying, etc.
googleplex
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This is the critical and frankly insulting mistake Bernie made going into this primary. He kept calling for REVOLUTION! When the real revolution started 9 years ago. He should have been working with the Obama coalition trying to farther this progressive notions. Instead he labeled Obama, Hillary and the rest of the Democratic party as part of the problem that needed to be overturned.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
GLORY!
EnlightenedMint
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Hopefully this doesn't push the party to try and ditch Trump because this could be one of their main justifications for it.
Exactly.
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Not how courts work
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The only thing that would make this perfect storm for Dems even better is if were happening in 2020 when they could redraw congressional districts. 2010 is still fucking things up.
I don't think it will have much of an effect. It'll motivate one side just as much as the other.
BlastProcessing
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It's either a lie or a scoop. Other reporters will dig into it. We will see if there is any more smoke across the next week, I imagine.
Lol right? Justice Thomas becomes a Supreme Court justice as his final job? Would be perfect haha
phisheep
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Until recently the Lord Chief Justice in the UK was Igor Judge, and we still have Lord Justice Laws on the Court of Appeal.
really though in the end the Republicans are the one that are making this all or nothing
Lol. If I remember right only 17 states would have to vote against an amendment. Just off the top of my head, states that would almost certainly vote against any sort of gun control amendment:
WV
TN
KY
TX
AL
GA
FL
MS
LA
NE
AR
WY
ID
MT
SC
ND
SD
AK
OK
KS
Maybe/borderline states would be
OH
PA
IN
IL
NC
VT
ME
Maybe a few others who's laws I'm not familiar with.
That's assuming it even made it out of the House which right now is lol.
I'm all for reasonable control methods, but we are a looooooong way off from passing an amendment of any sort, much less something as polarizing as gun control. Sure we could try, and symbolic voted are important for getting the word out for sure, but it shouldn't expected to pass any time soon.
Hah! That's amazing 😄👏
What about the senate though.
If you are implying Bernie, I do not know how once Trump became clear anyone could think he was not viable. At that point it was preference.
lightskintwin
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Thomas's seat on the Supreme Court is unofficially viewed by Congress as the "black" seat as he replaced Thurgood Marshall, the first African American supreme court justice. I could see Hilary make history by appointing the first African American woman in that seat if she were to get elected.
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