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[PBY]

That poor Kennedy family that came to power with no family connections. So your point is moot.



So now how do Jewish people have more power then black people? Like why does them being Jewish have anything to do with how successful they are?


If them being Jewish was there reason then why aren't there any black Jewish billionaires? Why not just convert to being Jewish to get all those "connections"?

Man, stop making that kind of causal link. This is the third time I've had to explain to you that Im not making that leap- nor should anyone because thats ridiculous.

Its the reality of the day. Its a statistical fact.

Do you not understand how demographics work?

 

[Aylinato]

Man, stop making that kind of causal link. This is the third time I've had to explain to you that Im not making that leap- nor should anyone because thats ridiculous.

Its the reality of the day. Its a statistical fact.

Do you not understand how demographics work?

How does them being Jewish mean they have more power just because they are Jewish?


Also, stop trying to conflate being Jewish with being white.


So prove to me how being Jewish made them have more power than black people.

 

[PBY]

How does them being Jewish mean they have more power just because they are Jewish?

.

I'm done man.

 

[The Last Emperor]

i dont know whos the bigger troll or who lacks reading comprehension the most: peterboy or aylinto

either way, im sure im not the only one enjoying it

continue

 

[Aylinato]

i dont know whos the bigger troll or who lacks reading comprehension the most: peterboy or aylinto

either way, im sure im not the only one enjoying it

continue

I have not trolled once. He tried claiming that Kanye, who said Jewish people(because they are Jewish) are more powerful than black people. He keeps trying to change what Kanye said to white people. Except Jewish isn't white, and what Kanye said was a stereotype based off false information. Those people didn't get to be in their positions in power because they were Jewish, and being Jewish doesn't mean you are going to have more connections than black people.


The reality is that it's a structure that allows white people more power than black people. However that's not what Kanye said, and if you noticed Peterboy even goes so far to try to prove that Jewish people in fact have more power based on how many billionaires that happen to be Jewish.

Except I didn't see any Jewish black billionaires in his list, so obviously being Jewish doesn't mean you are more connected then the US President.

 

[jerry1594]

i dont know whos the bigger troll or who lacks reading comprehension the most: peterboy or aylinto

either way, im sure im not the only one enjoying it

continue

It's a neat echo chamber like effect

 

[PBY]

I have not trolled once. He tried claiming that Kanye, who said Jewish people(because they are Jewish) are more powerful than black people. He keeps trying to change what Kanye said to white people. Except Jewish isn't white, and what Kanye said was a stereotype based off false information. Those people didn't get to be in their positions in power because they were Jewish, and being Jewish doesn't mean you are going to have more connections than black people.


The reality is that it's a structure that allows white people more power than black people. However that's not what Kanye said, and if you noticed Peterboy even goes so far to try to prove that Jewish people in fact have more power based on how many billionaires that happen to be Jewish.

Except I didn't see any Jewish black billionaires in his list, so obviously being Jewish doesn't mean you are more connected then the US President.

Wow.

 

[Aylinato]

Wow.

See, you kept trying to say that Kanye was correct.

He's just wrong. About everything Kanye said regarding the topic of who has more connections. You decided to try to defend his statement. You then tried saying that being Jewish is just another way of saying that he was referring to white people. Except that not all Jewish people are white, and not all white people are Jewish. You then tried to say that I somehow am ignorant regarding what is afflicting black people around the USA and how I'm ignoring how the entire structure of the USA is favored towards whites(which it is, but you didn't bother to look at my post history.).


So instead of conflating Jewish people with white people I decided to ask you how does being Jewish mean they have more power than black people, and brought it back to what Kanye discussed.


Now if you wanna talk about how white people in America have constructed an entire system so black people are treated unfairly, that would be an entirely different topic, and one that Kanye has no grasp of. Not because he never faced racism, but because he's just out there, in conspiracy world where Jewish people control the world, and have it out for him because that's why his clothing line failed.

 

[Devolution]

Obama is limited because of obstructionist republicans who would have completely fucked over another democrat in the seat because they're currently the party of "no" to anything that's crumbs on the table for the middle class and below.

Why is Kanye even talking? Why not go build stuff from the ground up? Why not act on the change he wants to see? He has the money and resources to do it.

 

[pizza dog]

Dog name me one black Jewish person at all.

...Lenny Kravitz?

...?

Why is Kanye even talking? Why not go build stuff from the ground up? Why not act on the change he wants to see? He has the money and resources to do it.

Well it turns out there are a lot of hours in a day and the first doesn't preclude the second? Why is "why doesn't he just do it then" ever a criticism?

 

[rokkerkory]

Stop paying attn to this fool

 

[Devolution]

Well it turns out there are a lot of hours in a day and the first doesn't preclude the second? Why is "why doesn't he just do it then" ever a criticism?

Kanye can act on the change he wants to see. He'd rather complain about the Fashion Industry not "respecting" him while he does the PR equivalent of consistently giving them the middle finger. I can't with the Kanye defense.

 

[jerry1594]

Dog name me one black Jewish person at all.

...Lenny Kravitz?

...?

...Drake
Rashida and Kidada Jones
Shyne lol

 

[Baby Milo]

Why is Kanye even talking? Why not go build stuff from the ground up? Why not act on the change he wants to see? He has the money and resources to do it.

because he failed the first time. His friends in the high fashion industry pulled strings to get his line shown at Paris fashion week. Buyers and critics thought it was trash. he is really begging for a second chance but with the use of their money and designers.

 

[Devolution]

because he failed the first time. His friends in the high fashion industry pulled strings to get his line shown at Paris fashion week. Buyers and critics thought it was trash. he is really begging for a second chance but with the use of their money and designers.

I forgot about that. The stuff he was putting Kim in was pretty

as well.

 

[pizza dog]

Kanye can act on the change he wants to see. He'd rather complain about the Fashion Industry not "respecting" him while he does the PR equivalent of consistently giving them the middle finger. I can't with the Kanye defense.

I mean boy's a clown and all but I'm not sure how you're supposed to be the change when you allege that the problem is centuries of entrenched institutional privilege. Not sure Kanye has quite enough dollars to buy black men and women CEO jobs going back to the invention of the corporation.

...Drake
Rashida and Kidada Jones
Shyne lol

Looked up Shyne. Wikipedia: "Also known as Moses Michael Levi". Lol ok that's pretty Jewish then.

 

[Devolution]

I mean boy's a clown and all but I'm not sure how you're supposed to be the change when you allege that the problem is centuries of entrenched institutional privilege. Not sure Kanye has quite enough dollars to buy black men and women CEO jobs going back to the invention of the corporation.

I'm not saying he can balance out the problem or that it doesn't exist but if you're going to run off at the mouth and insult people, then link larger social issues to you getting the door slammed in your face, people are going to be skeptical and rightfully so.

 

[APF]

I would say that Obama lacks the same connections and resources that a white, or oil moneyed president has though.

You're 100% incorrect. It's not as though we don't have ample evidence comparing Obama to a white President with oil ties. He's the PRESIDENT, dude! He's the guy rich white oil guys want to have connections with.

 

[Stet]

Dog name me one black Jewish person at all.

...Lenny Kravitz?

...?

There's an entire tribe of Ethiopian Jews.

 

[Shiggie]

You're 100% incorrect. It's not as though we don't have ample evidence comparing Obama to a white President with oil ties. He's the PRESIDENT, dude! He's the guy rich white oil guys want to have connections with.

Tell that to the republicans. They seem to not give a shit. And who do Oil men primarily do business with? Republicans make him ineffective and essentially make him a lame duck.

 

[Killer]

Ladies and gents, the voice of our generation.

 

[APF]

Tell that to the republicans. They seem to not give a shit. And who do Oil men primarily do business with? Republicans make him ineffective and essentially make him a lame duck.

You're not actually making a counterpoint here. Your command of modern politics is second to only Kanye West.

 

[dbztrk]

There's an entire tribe of Ethiopian Jews.

And they are discriminated against in Israel. The home of the Jews.

http://www.theafricareport.com/East...ng-discrimination-against-ethiopian-jews.html

http://www.irinnews.org/report/94819/israel-the-tribulations-of-being-an-ethiopian-jew

 

[dbztrk]

There's an entire tribe of Ethiopian Jews.

Converts that don't have any genetic ties to the the ancient Jewish tribe(s). However, there is the Lemba Jews that do have "Jewish" ancestry.

 

[Dereck]

Dog name me one black Jewish person at all.

...Lenny Kravitz?

...?



Well it turns out there are a lot of hours in a day and the first doesn't preclude the second? Why is "why doesn't he just do it then" ever a criticism?

Eric Andre

 

[daffy]

Some people have obvs not watched the full interview. He says why he can't just up and do shit.

 

[Shiggie]

You're not actually making a counterpoint here. Your command of modern politics is second to only Kanye West.

Im saying why would big oil want to have a connection with a president hindered by republicans not allowing him to pass anything even if they support it. Thanks for being so stand up through all of this.

 

[APF]

Im saying why would big oil want to have a connection with a president hindered by republicans not allowing him to pass anything even if they support it. Thanks for being so stand up through all of this.

Why not ask them? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/obama-climate-protest_n_2719338.html

You're welcome.

 

[highrider]

He's an interesting musician though I haven't liked his latest stuff, but he sucks at articulating his political thoughts. I was watching Christopher Hitchens debate a guy and hitch at one point said that he didn't feel that the guy had ever read any of the arguments against his position. I get this sense from Kanye West. There is nobody questioning him in his circle. I doubt he has a real friend around him saying, hey man think about this now.

 

[akira28]

That poor Kennedy family that came to power with no family connections. So your point is moot.

JFK's family wasn't poor. They were a well respected New England business family. His dad was the dingdang Ambassador to England, and a close ally to government and state in the US.

That family had plenty of connects.

 

[flippedb]

Our generation's greatest philosopher...

That's Jayden, ok?

Dog name me one black Jewish person at all.

...Lenny Kravitz?

...?

Sammy Davis Jr.

 

[pizza dog]

There's an entire tribe of Ethiopian Jews.

Well yeah, there's also like maybe a Lost Tribe or two in India, but I don't think anybody accuses them of orchestrating the Zionist dystopia.

Mostly I just wanted to say Lenny Kravitz out loud because hunger games got me on my mind. Also "there are no black Jewish millionaires" dude is silly.

 

[APF]

JFK's family wasn't poor.

I think the point was that the Kennedy family started out poor, not that JFK's family was poor at the time he became President.

 

[pizza dog]

Sammy Davis Jr.

Woah I didn't know that.

Davis had a complex relationship with the African-American community, and drew criticism after physically embracing President Richard M. Nixon in 1972. One day on a golf course with Jack Benny, he was asked what his handicap was. "Handicap?" he asked. "Talk about handicap — I'm a one-eyed Negro Jew."[

:lol

 

[jerry1594]

And they are discriminated against in Israel. The home of the Jews.

http://www.theafricareport.com/East...ng-discrimination-against-ethiopian-jews.html

http://www.irinnews.org/report/94819/israel-the-tribulations-of-being-an-ethiopian-jew

Goddamn. The irony makes my head spin.
And also makes me want to hurt people.

 

[akira28]

I think the point was that the Kennedy family started out poor, not that JFK's family was poor at the time he became President.

Seems by the mid 19th century they were already in the center of Boston politics. There just seems to be this image of the Kennedys coming over to escape the famines, living the standard lives of immigrants, clawing their way up the ladder via organized crime and legit business and somehow ending up at the top. But the real story is about as textbook as it gets, used money to make more money and more money and eventually lots of money and friends.

 

[APF]

There just seems to be this image of the Kennedys coming over to escape the famines, living the standard lives of immigrants, clawing their way up the ladder via organized crime and legit business and somehow ending up at the top. But the real story is about as textbook as it gets, used money to make more money and more money and eventually lots of money and friends.

That's the same story.

 

[akira28]

different scales. In 50 years they were bumping elbows with the leaders, not working hard to save the family store.

 

[APF]

different scales.

You mean different timeframes? Two generations to go from nearly nothing to, as you say below, "bumping elbows with the leaders"... I'm just not sure where you going with this, since you only confirm it's actually pretty remarkable.

In 50 years they were bumping elbows with the leaders, not working hard to save the family store.

Because one fellow got the first college degree in his family's history, then managed to do well in local politics, gaining prominence with a speech at a Democratic National Convention.

Someone who can do something like that obviously has a lot of connections. Maybe the President wouldn't be having such a hard time if he were someone who started off struggling, then managed to do well in local politics, then gained prominence with a speech at a Democratic National Convention.