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Kanye West presents The Life of Pablo |OT| WE ON AN ULTRA LIGHT BEAM
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TheMortarion
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Sucks, that this album, if it comes out, will be arriving into a landscape of people probably already somewhat moving on from constant rotation listening, who probably pirated it in the first place and won't be bothered to pay for a slightly altered slightly better sounding(maybe) version. Not to mention the hype in general has worn off. The L train finally derailed and everyone has died or gotten off.
The only listens I've had are from the people who live streamed it on twitch and the bandcamp link. I can't wait to actually listen in my car, but attention spans are short and people move on faster than ever.
The only listens I've had are from the people who live streamed it on twitch and the bandcamp link. I can't wait to actually listen in my car, but attention spans are short and people move on faster than ever.
Exactly. Unless tidal paid them really good I can't see Def Jam being happy at all with this situation.
thequickandthedead
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link?
Why are you bringing this up in this thread?
SlaughterX
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I'm starting to get a little burned out after listening to it so many times after release. Unless he actually reworks the album significantly, I probably won't end up listening to it too much more. It would be insane if he actually changed a bunch of shit, like after College Dropout leaked, but at this point I'm really not expecting anything. I just hope it gets off Tidal and goes elsewhere.
Yeah the rollout of this has been a hot mess. I went on Spotify to see if it's up and the album is there but it's all greyed out with the message that they hope to be able to have it up soon.
Technosteve
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I am ready for the album dlc/season pass
I am also ready for chance to release a solo album
I am also ready for chance to release a solo album
Spotify always does that when they don't own the rights to stream an album. Adele said she had no intentions of putting her latest album on Spotify but her album appears on Spotify all greyed out with the same message you stated. Doesn't mean shit.
He's got a new mixtape coming out soon right? I hear it's gonna be so free and the bars so hard that there aint one gosh darn part you can't tweet,
Fixed Wolves as the outro would have been perfection....
That's how I have it on my iPhone bruh
I know it doesn't mean shit. I just want to be able to listen to the album without using Tidal.
The point was this rollout has been garbage and erratic.
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Not murderers, pedophiles, dictators, etc? "Music elitists", which I bet you can't even define?
Come on man, "if there's one thing I hate" is an expression. I could do the same thing you're doing by asking "why do you care about someone caring about music elitists when there's murders happening in the world?". It's a silly comparison. The person you're replying to was just lamenting the poster on the other page who was complaining about Future/Nicki not being "real" hip-hop.
I'll just create another account and use a different CC.
You sound real fun to be around.
https://twitter.com/virgilabloh/status/701465767867457536
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
The NYT article within is pretty good too, BTW.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
The NYT article within is pretty good too, BTW.
Ether_Snake
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The back cover of the album says it all. This album is like Donald Trump, it's designed to steal airtime, it's in constant flux. "Which one" refers to that, the album has no final definition.
edit: Even the title "Waves" hinted at this concept. The album keeps coming and going.
edit: Even the title "Waves" hinted at this concept. The album keeps coming and going.
listened to Yeezus again last night and whew, i like that album so much more now than when it first released. it'll be interesting to see what people think of that album 20-30 years from now in relation to his other projects; could be another 808s-like turnaround.
RespectThySole
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This album doesn't have many standout tracks in comparison to his others. Yeah it's cool to vibe to because of the production, but I already find myself gravitating towards his older albums instead. Some of the sloppy verses really put a damper on it along with the unfinished feeling some of these songs have. It would be okay if it was cohesive or if all of the songs were catchy like Yeezus, but that's not the case imo.
Fade feels too short and like there should be some switch up or guest verse that never comes.
Ditto for Freestyle 4.
Ruined Wolves by removing Sia/Vic and adding that underwhelming unswallow/unfollow verse. We have the KTT version at least I guess and we'll see how he reworks it.
I like the Highlights beat switch, but the Ray J quip feels unnecessary and old. Why not an actual Young Thug verse? He usually brings the best out of other artists.
Bleach asshole verse on FSMH feels like such a throwaway even though I love Cudi's part.
I would've preferred Future over the knockoff on Pt. 2. Still a decent banger, but it ends before it really gets started.
Waves would be great if there was more Ye, I don't like Chris Brown THAT much for him to basically get his own song on a Kanye album. Another Kanye verse or feature please. Maybe after Cudi's humming.
Instead of an Andre 3000 verse at the end of 30 Hours, we get backing vocals and Kanye talking like it's fucking Last Call. This had potential to be an all time great Ye Song.
Max B is cool, but what's the point of the Silver Surfer Intermission if the album isn't called Waves anymore?
I like what he did with Facts, but still not good enough to be a Kanye album cut. Too generic.
I Love Kanye is cool.
It feels like I should like NMPILA more than I do, but the beat is annoying after a while. I know it's Madlib, but eh. Not a bad verse from Ye though.
I love everything about Famous except for Ye's first verse. Yeah, it's serviceable, but I wanted more from him on such a well produced song.
FML, Feedback and Real Friends are great. ULB is too, but mainly because of Chance.
It's still a really good album, but I can't help but feel disappointed by it.
Fade feels too short and like there should be some switch up or guest verse that never comes.
Ditto for Freestyle 4.
Ruined Wolves by removing Sia/Vic and adding that underwhelming unswallow/unfollow verse. We have the KTT version at least I guess and we'll see how he reworks it.
I like the Highlights beat switch, but the Ray J quip feels unnecessary and old. Why not an actual Young Thug verse? He usually brings the best out of other artists.
Bleach asshole verse on FSMH feels like such a throwaway even though I love Cudi's part.
I would've preferred Future over the knockoff on Pt. 2. Still a decent banger, but it ends before it really gets started.
Waves would be great if there was more Ye, I don't like Chris Brown THAT much for him to basically get his own song on a Kanye album. Another Kanye verse or feature please. Maybe after Cudi's humming.
Instead of an Andre 3000 verse at the end of 30 Hours, we get backing vocals and Kanye talking like it's fucking Last Call. This had potential to be an all time great Ye Song.
Max B is cool, but what's the point of the Silver Surfer Intermission if the album isn't called Waves anymore?
I like what he did with Facts, but still not good enough to be a Kanye album cut. Too generic.
I Love Kanye is cool.
It feels like I should like NMPILA more than I do, but the beat is annoying after a while. I know it's Madlib, but eh. Not a bad verse from Ye though.
I love everything about Famous except for Ye's first verse. Yeah, it's serviceable, but I wanted more from him on such a well produced song.
FML, Feedback and Real Friends are great. ULB is too, but mainly because of Chance.
It's still a really good album, but I can't help but feel disappointed by it.
Freewheelin'
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Listening to MBDTF again.
I fucking love Yeezus and really really like TLOP, but this is his masterpiece. What a fucking album.
I fucking love Yeezus and really really like TLOP, but this is his masterpiece. What a fucking album.
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RespectThySole
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It's tough to choose my favorite Hip Hop album, but MBDTF is definitely in my top 5.
Yep, after listening to TLOP over and over, I've settled on MBDTF still being his best. It's my personal all time favourite. TLOP is great, but MBDTF can't be touched.
Citizen_Insane
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There will never be another album like it again. Not on that scale with that many collaborators.
MBDTF is pretty much untouchable if we're talking Ye's legacy.
Most influential publications, key hip-hop historians, the majority of Ye fans (I'm talking people who don't miss the old Kanye ad nauseum), and Ye himself acknowledge it's his magnum opus. Coming off of 808s at the time, I think it's pretty uncontroversial to think that MBDTF was the project that solidified him as not just a great artist but a legend, and put him square in that GOAT category, formerly reserved for lyricists only.
How can he do better than a pitch perfect dissection of his own character and journey through life thus far? Better than an album that reveals more and more about Ye as time passes and new events help you put pieces together that were in plain sight on MBDTF? Better than an album that sonically and thematically embodies the enigma that is Kanye West like nothing before or after? Even it's imperfections illustrate the album's narrative, and to top it off the ending couldn't be more perfect for Ye.
Don't give a fuck if Ye thinks it was Grammy-bait in retrospect, because regardless it produced his most comprehensive and representative work. MBDTF is Kanye embodied.
Most influential publications, key hip-hop historians, the majority of Ye fans (I'm talking people who don't miss the old Kanye ad nauseum), and Ye himself acknowledge it's his magnum opus. Coming off of 808s at the time, I think it's pretty uncontroversial to think that MBDTF was the project that solidified him as not just a great artist but a legend, and put him square in that GOAT category, formerly reserved for lyricists only.
How can he do better than a pitch perfect dissection of his own character and journey through life thus far? Better than an album that reveals more and more about Ye as time passes and new events help you put pieces together that were in plain sight on MBDTF? Better than an album that sonically and thematically embodies the enigma that is Kanye West like nothing before or after? Even it's imperfections illustrate the album's narrative, and to top it off the ending couldn't be more perfect for Ye.
Don't give a fuck if Ye thinks it was Grammy-bait in retrospect, because regardless it produced his most comprehensive and representative work. MBDTF is Kanye embodied.
Psychological Intellect
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Dark Twisted Fantasy over the years felt like Ye's answer to the "he doesn't have it anymore" crowd with how 808s was treated. Yea he always waves it off as if he needed to do it but yea I do think that solidified his career altogether.
Like he needed a Dark Twisted before going to Yeezus.
Like he needed a Dark Twisted before going to Yeezus.
thequickandthedead
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Kanye prefers 808s and Yeezus over MBDTF, doesn't he?
Ye changes his mind on things. I think if you round up all of his opinions, he thinks MBDTF is him at his best (calling it "perfect" and his "glass ceiling" alongside Yeezus), and TCD and 808s are his most influential pieces of work. He just likes bringing 808s up because people gave him shit for it and it ended up being one of his most influential works, so he likes to rub it in alongside other things people doubted him for.
Dreams-Visions
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lyrically it's pretty clear to me that he'll never top MBDTF. unless he gets the same people to help him write again i guess.
I used to put LR at the top but I've realized there is no definite best album for me. In any order, my top three is always My Beautiful, College Dropout, and Late Registration. 808s is in the middle, and the bottom three in any order is Graduation, Yeezus, and The Life of Pablo.
RespectThySole
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That's his 2nd best after MBDTF. Then Yeezus/808s. CD, Grad, and Pablo in the lower tier.
Probably his weakest album tho.
Discotheque
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prolly. it's the album of his that had the most impact. gave us the 6god too.
Master_Funk
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Twisted fantasy and To pimp a butterfly are my two favourite hip hop albums of all time ( not sure of the order) and just continue to demonstrate that hip hop is the most significant music genre of the last 30 years.
But Illmatic and Liquid Swords!
OmegaSmash
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Thats Graduation
and maybe College Dropout
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