MBDTF was Ye's attempt at AOTY at the Grammy's. He got snubbed, so I think he's making whatever the hell he wants to now.
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MBDTF was Ye's attempt at AOTY at the Grammy's. He got snubbed, so I think he's making whatever the hell he wants to now.
Yeah, I think that extends beyond just what it's like musically though. MBDTF is probably the realest shit Ye's ever wrote but the notion of there being dishonesty in the honesty is a completely other perspective to take on the album, with the element of compromise across that. I think, in a way, it was Ye being more vulnerable than ever and that coming out in his music and he doesn't find comfort in that vulnerability looking back, because he thinks he should've held his ground.
To me, the vulnerability is exactly what makes the album so great and why I hold it in such high regard. It's really communicated well throughout the album. I don't think that narrative would have been possible without all the shit that went down in his life. Was watching the needledrop review for it the other day and I completely agree that if you care about Kanye a lot (whether that be in the form of love or hate or both) you'll get a lot more out of the album if you consider the context, otherwise it may seem a bit unremarkable. Maybe even manufactured.
Started reading this but man, I didn't know Rick Rubin is also an executive producer on the album. Damn, I always that guy for overseeing Red hot chili Peppers stuff & producin Jay Z's 99 problems.
More excited to hear Yeezus in it's entirety and other than black skinhead & New Slaves, i've been steering clear from the live new stuff ye be playing.
if MBDTF couldn't get that AOTY Grammy then nothing he does will. it'd be some funny shit if Yeezus got it as a "yeah we fucked up last time" award though.
Great interview. I still don't understand why he thinks the grammy's are that important though.
I think he was kinda clear - he doesn't think the award itself is important, just some of the implications around why he hasn't won (read race)
Well he does say he doesn't care about the grammy's , but he wants the statistics to more accurate. I feel like that is caring, you know?
dude is straight churching in this interview.
Good interview. I'm mad NYT praised him for making time for the baby shower. Nukka its your baby. You damn well better be involved or something.
SON YOU GOTTA BE ONSITE!!!!
He doesn't care about the award itself, just the recognition it brings. He doesn't want people to think other albums are better.
This is why I love ye
TOP SHOTTA
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Tempted to go into lockdown, media blockout mode fam. I am really excited for this, but with the interviews and the ridiculous posts of links to influences of influences of samples used in a live version of a song nobody has heard. I am just starting to irritate myself fam. And I am stating to get irritated at the hype but I know it's all part of the excitement.
But fam if I see one more Vine posted in a non-ironic way in this thread I may lose it. And we've got the whole weekend still to get through.
I'l close by saying that this thing with air raid/claxon siren thing is fuck-all awesome and I am really pumped for this stupid thing to drop. Then my pussy will start getting wet all over again for King Push.
But fam if I see one more Vine posted in a non-ironic way in this thread I may lose it. And we've got the whole weekend still to get through.
I'l close by saying that this thing with air raid/claxon siren thing is fuck-all awesome and I am really pumped for this stupid thing to drop. Then my pussy will start getting wet all over again for King Push.
The Return of
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Spoke the truth bout 808s and heartbreak
wtf lol
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Makes me hopeful he's going in a different direction. And the clips I've heard so far other than Black Skinhead are promising.
These responses are confusing me. MBDTF was utter trash, c'mon mang.
Stahp
Pretty sure Rosenberg is right about this album. If your coming here expecting MBDTF2, this album isn't for you. If your coming into this expecting LR/TCD, this album isn't for you. If your coming into this album expecting 808s, this album isn't for you. This is the status quo for every Ye album, but it needs to be said.
Mark my words this album will be one of Kanye's most hated projects. Tons of autotune, more divergent production than ever, the most unorthodox song formatting ever, etc.
Mark my words this album will be one of Kanye's most hated projects. Tons of autotune, more divergent production than ever, the most unorthodox song formatting ever, etc.
Nah he just didn't like that it was a compromise to win back public acceptance basically.
This is going to be such a dope album. I'm so hype for racially charged, dance rap.
Every song sounds like a summer banger. Send It Up, Onsite, the CuDi song, the songs we've heard thus far. This album EXUDES energy. Even New Slaves has this sort of latent energy to it that flows through it.
And Rick Rubin executively producing this shit means it will only get better, it will be interesting how his conceptions of simplicity will mix with Kanye's composite production style. I have a feeling the changes we've heard on Black Skinhead are because of him stepping in. Which are awesome, by the way. Adds so much drama to the hook. Dat bass.
Every song sounds like a summer banger. Send It Up, Onsite, the CuDi song, the songs we've heard thus far. This album EXUDES energy. Even New Slaves has this sort of latent energy to it that flows through it.
And Rick Rubin executively producing this shit means it will only get better, it will be interesting how his conceptions of simplicity will mix with Kanye's composite production style. I have a feeling the changes we've heard on Black Skinhead are because of him stepping in. Which are awesome, by the way. Adds so much drama to the hook. Dat bass.
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that song that hudson mohawke produced sounds fucking incredible. i also cant get black skinheads out of my head.
incredible.
incredible.
Def jam said they'd be there.
Yeah, don't think I want to fuck with iTunes with this. Will just have to wait I guess (if there isn't anything out on Tuesday).
I just hope my CD is onsite. ONSITE!!!!
Yeezus will show you that having faith in the almighty gives you the strength to persevere even when in doubt of your future.
what quotes tell you he thought MBDTF was shit
Oh, that was just me editorializing a bit
Great interview, man, Ye is really inspirational. I'd be happy to accomplish only a fraction of what he has someday. Just gotta stay motivated and keep working at it. I think the thing I've always respected the most about Kanye is that he's so unabashedly and genuinely himself. Like there's no filter or PR persona put on at all and its fucking awesome.
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The klaxon doesn't really sound like them, but Send it Up really sounds like Human After All era Daft Punk bass when that synth pad hits.
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The race thing is total BS though. Stevie Wonder has more grammys than anyone else.
Kanye's never won a Grammy in a non-black category. That's what he's pissed about. Because let's be real that's what the rap (and r&b) awards are for.
Hell the music industry (Billboard) used to have straight out black music charts. The Grammy's aint any different. Don't let em fool you.
Kanye's keeping em honest by keeping it 100. Winning a Best Rap award don't mean shit.
Hell the music industry (Billboard) used to have straight out black music charts. The Grammy's aint any different. Don't let em fool you.
Kanye's keeping em honest by keeping it 100. Winning a Best Rap award don't mean shit.
This will be it.
I do think this could be the one. From what I've heard at least.
Also, I didn't know MBDTF didn't even get nominated for AOTY. Looking at the records for the award on Wikipedia. That is a little messed up :lol even if I disliked it. I mean fucking "Big Whiskey and the GrooGrux King" by Dave Matthews Band was nominated. Wow.
they nominate all types of garbage for AOTY. ex: that whole 2010 year was complete ass in that category (seriously go look) and OF COURSE Taylor Swift wins w/ her garbage. nah miss me w/ ALL of that. it's more politics, relevance and being in good favor than actually having the best album.
like Rap AOTY this year at the Grammys? GKMC. i don't even need to watch that shit.
then they'll give AOTY to the most milquetoast bullshit. i fucking hate the Grammys. at least the Billboard Awards are honest with what they're all about.
it's flatout comical that as a duo proper, the worst Outkast album won AOTY. you know Big and Dre had a laugh about that shit in private.
like Rap AOTY this year at the Grammys? GKMC. i don't even need to watch that shit.
then they'll give AOTY to the most milquetoast bullshit. i fucking hate the Grammys. at least the Billboard Awards are honest with what they're all about.
it's flatout comical that as a duo proper, the worst Outkast album won AOTY. you know Big and Dre had a laugh about that shit in private.
I liked this quote from the interview:
His records did used to say reduced by Rick Rubin.
"For him, its really just inside of him. Im still just a kid learning about minimalism, and hes a master of it. Its just really such a blessing, to be able to work with him. I want to say that after working with Rick, it humbled me to realize why I hadnt even though I produced Watch the Throne; even though I produced Dark Fantasy why I hadnt won Album of the Year yet.
This album is moments that I havent done before, like just my voice and drums. What people call a rant but put it next to just a drumbeat, and it cuts to the level of, like, Run-D.M.C. or KRS-One. The last record I can remember and Im going to name records that youll think are cheesy but like, J-Kwon, Tipsy. People would think thats like a lower-quality, less intellectual form of hip-hop, but thats always my No. 1. Theres no opera sounds on this new album, you know what I mean? Its just like, super low-bit. Im still, like, slightly a snob, but I completely removed my snob heaven songs; I just removed them altogether."
His records did used to say reduced by Rick Rubin.
"For him, its really just inside of him. Im still just a kid learning about minimalism, and hes a master of it. Its just really such a blessing, to be able to work with him. I want to say that after working with Rick, it humbled me to realize why I hadnt even though I produced Watch the Throne; even though I produced Dark Fantasy why I hadnt won Album of the Year yet.
This album is moments that I havent done before, like just my voice and drums. What people call a rant but put it next to just a drumbeat, and it cuts to the level of, like, Run-D.M.C. or KRS-One. The last record I can remember and Im going to name records that youll think are cheesy but like, J-Kwon, Tipsy. People would think thats like a lower-quality, less intellectual form of hip-hop, but thats always my No. 1. Theres no opera sounds on this new album, you know what I mean? Its just like, super low-bit. Im still, like, slightly a snob, but I completely removed my snob heaven songs; I just removed them altogether."
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