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Kanye West sulks on a talk show. Lies on the floor and refuses to speak to anyone.

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zychi

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The loss of his mom really fucked him up emotionally man. He aint been right since.

He blames himself. If he didn't fund her non-medical needed surgery, she wouldn't have been on that table in the first place. I can't speak for him, but I think he blames himself.
 

Sane_Man

Member
Damn so edgy great job bruh

You're losing out by skipping the greatest hip hop tracks of the past 20 years.

Fun fact: you love a song produced by Kanye and probably don't even know it.

You and this post sum up why Kanye has the worst set of fans in the world. You just can't accept that art is subjective and people may dislike something you love. There has to be an ulterior motive. Pathetic.

I personally find his music okay. He's not a genius and he's a massive bell end. Me thinking this shouldn't have any effect on you. You can like what you want and other people can like what they want. The two don't have to go hand in hand.
 
From disliking Kanye? No doubt, but at this point, the whole thread is made on the premise of a lie for something that potentially didn't actually happen.

I don't even particularly care for Kanye West but lets not just perpetuate nonsense.
Yeah I like a lot of Kanyes music. I'm indifferent to his public antics, I truthfully could not care less about that sort of thing. I understand why people hate him, are fans of his or are interested by what he does but I really only care about his music and kinda go on a case by case basis with his non-music output.

With all of that said this is just stupid and really shows how far people are willing to go to hate on the dude. That and it shows how many people read the thread and those who just respond to the article/thread title without reading any of the on going discussion about it being fake.
 
Of trying to get the best out of his daughter with wife Kim Kardashian, Kanye also revealed the advice that Wilson gave him: “She just looked at me and said: ‘Kanye, don’t clap’."

The hell does don't clap mean?
 
Yeah I like a lot of Kanyes music. I'm indifferent to his public antics, I truthfully could not care less about that sort of thing. I understand why people hate him, are fans of his or are interested by what he does but I really only care about his music and kinda go on a case by case basis with his non-music output.

With all of that said this is just stupid and really shows how far people are willing to go to hate on the dude.

Exactly. I don't listen to his music or care for his antics in the spotlight but goddamn, at least hate someone when they ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING stupid/crazy instead of making up stuff.
 

JaseMath

Member
Kayne makes decent music, but someone who acts like that shouldn't be famous for anything other than being a bitchy, stupid crybaby.
 

Ray Wonder

Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
The Kanye Bashing in the thread is fierce. It's weird how someone so good at what they do can be so hated. I don't think some of you have the capability to appreciate how talented he is.
 

Owari

Member
You and this post sum up why Kanye has the worst set of fans in the world. You just can't accept that art is subjective and people may dislike something you love. There has to be an ulterior motive. Pathetic.

I personally find his music okay. He's not a genius and he's a massive bell end. Me thinking this shouldn't have any effect on you. You can like what you want and other people can like what they want. The two don't have to go hand in hand.
He said he skips Kanye tracks because the media tells him he's a bad person. You can't say you don't like something if you haven't even listened to it, lol. Art is subjective, but you have to experience the art to have a subject to subjectify.
 

MrBadger

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So this never actually happened? Man, people want to hate Kanye so much they'll believe anything they hear about him.

If this did happen I'll feel very silly about my previous remark
 
I believe she also co-wrote the screenplay for Kick Ass. Edit: And Kingsman!

Jonathan Ross is a lucky guy. She seems great.

Jane Goldman.

They seem like the type of people I could kick back and have a beer with.

They're awesome, and Jonathan is a genuinely a nice guy - witty in real life, too, rather than it just being a scripted for TV thing. Both of them are 'our kinda guys' in the sense that they read comics (in Jonathan's case, writes as well), watch movies (obv. Jane writes), play games and enjoy geek culture.
 

Sane_Man

Member
He said he skips Kanye tracks because the media tells him he's a bad person. You can't say you don't like something if you haven't even listened to it, lol. Art is subjective, but you have to experience the art to have a subject to subjectify.

See this is the bullshit I'm talking about. Now you're making a straw man argument. What he actually said was:

I hate him and I won't be buying his new album. If one of his songs comes up on Spotify, I skip it. I'm not sure how I'm losing out on this one

And you take that to mean that he dislikes him because the media told him that he's a bad person, not that someone could find his obnoxious and egotistical personality insufferable, or find his music less than genius.

And furthermore he never said his new album was something he didn't like, he said that he wouldn't listen to it. Do you listen to all the new albums from every band/artist you dislike? You'd waste a lot of your life on crap you don't like if you did that...
 

Laz-E-Boy

Member
lol

edit: OP at least put the update in the OP, that way people will actually see it's not real (or not, but they'll read the headline and jump in anyway)

Nah, I read the whole thread before posting that. I just assumed the whole laying on the floor still happened but Kanye actually had the interview.
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
1) To the people making comments about Kanye being a child, you may not know that infantilizing black people (claiming that they have the intellectual capacity of a kid) is a common trope in racial discourse. It dates back to, at least, the colonial era and was a common way to help justify ideas about the White Man's Burden and Britain's obligation to colonize under a banner of spreading "civilization." This trope of presuming black people are dumb has persisted through Western discourse ever since. So you may want to think twice about what you're saying.

2) Saying that Kanye should be over the death of his mom by now, and criticizing him for not being so, is really gross. Like, really gross.
 
1) To the people making comments about Kanye being a child, you may not know that infantilizing black people (claiming that they have the intellectual capacity of a kid) is a common trope in racial discourse. It dates back to, at least, the colonial era and was a common way to help justify ideas about the White Man's Burden and Britain's obligation to colonize under a banner of spreading "civilization." This trope of presuming black people are dumb has persisted through Western discourse ever since. So you may want to think twice about what you're saying.
while this story appears to be bullshit kanye acts like a child all the time. no need to think twice about it.
 

Sane_Man

Member
1) To the people making comments about Kanye being a child, you may not know that infantilizing black people (claiming that they have the intellectual capacity of a kid) is a common trope in racial discourse. It dates back to, at least, the colonial era and was a common way to help justify ideas about the White Man's Burden and Britain's obligation to colonize under a banner of spreading "civilization." This trope of presuming black people are dumb has persisted through Western discourse ever since. So you may want to think twice about what you're saying.

Jesus christ. This is laughable. The fact that you leap to this is more offensive than someone thinking Kanye acts like a child because he often acts like a child. Get a fucking grip.

People who criticise OJ for murdering his wife. You may not know this but portraying black people as violent or criminals dates back to the colonial era and is a common racial trope. Please understand.
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
The hell does don't clap mean?

Don't be too happy with yourself? Don't celebrate your success? Something like that?

He's talking about the advice he was given from Wilson. Most people would clap when their child walks for the first time, as a way of celebrating, saying "good job" etc, the advice is to not clap, don't encourage what everyone else does, and push them further. Don't settle for 100%, go for for 110%.
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
Jesus christ. This is laughable. The fact that you leap to this is more offensive than someone thinking Kanye acts like a child because he often acts like a child. Get a fucking grip.

People who criticise OJ for murdering his wife. You may not know this but portraying black people as violent or criminals dates back to the colonial era and is a common racial trope. Please understand.

Yes, murder is definitely comparable in scope and ambiguity to anything Kanye gets criticized for.
 
Jesus christ. This is laughable. The fact that you leap to this is more offensive than someone thinking Kanye acts like a child because he often acts like a child. Get a fucking grip.

People who criticise OJ for murdering his wife. You may not know this but portraying black people as violent or criminals dates back to the colonial era and is a common racial trope. Please understand.

...It's actually laughable that you're comparing Kanye to OJ.
 

Sane_Man

Member
If that's what you guys took from my post then I don't know what to say. My point was that accusing people of racism because we're criticising someone for something completely non-race related is just sickening and completely moronic.

It's as odious as accusing people of being antisemitic for criticising Israel.
 

The Adder

Banned
If that's what you guys took from my post then I don't know what to say. My point was that accusing people of racism because we're criticising someone for something completely non-race related is just sickening and completely moronic.

It's as odious as accusing people of being antisemitic for criticising Israel.

Do you not have anything of comparable scale that others would deem obvious, or is your goal here victory by way of moral outrage.

You're doing a pretty good job of swaying my opinion to the opposite of yours and I was originally in agreement that this was a bad case to bring that particular objection up. (An argument can be made for race being a contributing factor for why people are so quick to believe anything about Kanye and so vehemently stick to falsehoods, but the particular lable? Not in this case).
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
If that's what you guys took from my post then I don't know what to say. My point was that accusing people of racism because we're criticising someone for something completely non-race related is just sickening and completely moronic.

It's as odious as accusing people of being antisemitic for criticising Israel.

I don't know if this counts as a thread derail, so maybe we don't need to go too deep into it, but it's not a question of if someone is "racist," but rather just that people tend to perpetuate discourses that have racial underpinnings, even unknowingly. It's an issue of epistemology, not morality. I'm just asking that, intentions aside, people who are so quick to label Kanye a kid would maybe realize some of the wider implications of doing so, and find other less condescending language.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
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https://twitter.com/wossy/status/571267637839314944

This super ambiguous tweet does not confirm or deny anything.
 

Prologue

Member
1) To the people making comments about Kanye being a child, you may not know that infantilizing black people (claiming that they have the intellectual capacity of a kid) is a common trope in racial discourse. It dates back to, at least, the colonial era and was a common way to help justify ideas about the White Man's Burden and Britain's obligation to colonize under a banner of spreading "civilization." This trope of presuming black people are dumb has persisted through Western discourse ever since. So you may want to think twice about what you're saying.

2) Saying that Kanye should be over the death of his mom by now, and criticizing him for not being so, is really gross. Like, really gross.

Gross? The man is 37 years old. The mother wanted to get the non essential surgery. Kanye paid for it but she wanted to get it, she wanted to lay on the table. Wether he wanted to or not, she would have found a way.

Hes not a kid anymore, he's a husband now and most importantly, a father. Get your shit together. This story was made up and people had no problem believing it, thats just the level he's at now. Normal people just roll their eyes at him now and no body takes him seriously anymore because of the stuff he pulls every other week. There are people out there that actually have real problems.
 

BkMogul

Member
Gross? The man is 37 years old. The mother wanted to get the non essential surgery. Kanye paid for it but she wanted to get it, she wanted to lay on the table. Wether he wanted to or not, she would have found a way.

Hes not a kid anymore, he's a husband now and most importantly, a father. Get your shit together. This story was made up and people had no problem believing it, thats just the level he's at now. Normal people just roll their eyes at him now and no body takes him seriously anymore because of the stuff he pulls every other week. There are people out there that actually have real problems.

No matter what way a person loses their mother, if they are very close to them, it changes you forever. Kanye was already a little off-kilter before that, but that moment changed him irreversibly (whether for good or bad, that's a matter of opinion).
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
Gross? The man is 37 years old. The mother wanted to get the non essential surgery. Kanye paid for it but she wanted to get it, she wanted to lay on the table. Wether he wanted to or not, she would have found a way.

Hes not a kid anymore, he's a husband now and most importantly, a father. Get your shit together. This story was made up and people had no problem believing it, thats just the level he's at now. Normal people just roll their eyes at him now and no body takes him seriously anymore because of the stuff he pulls every other week. There are people out there that actually have real problems.

Yeah, unfortunately grief and trauma aren't that simple.

Also, I enjoy that you inferred Kanye is acting like a kid while responding to a post where I criticized that exact behaviour.
 

jerry1594

Member
And the most extraordinary haters. I don't understand why people hate him as much as they do.
He does douchey things (like that Beck thing) and then his fans jump to write the thinkpieces about how awesome he is and what he did is actually so awesome, which snowballs into him getting more hate than is warranted. People on both sides need to tone it down.
 
Look at it like this:

If Kayne didn't do annoying, strange crap, would anyone even know who he was?

Of course not.

This is how he keeps visible. Not through art or music or relevance, but through ego stunts.
 
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