LinesInTheSand
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Kasavin = My Daddy?
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Kabuki Waq
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He overrated Jade empire.
but yeah his reviews make GS really inconsistant.
He gave mgs 2 a 9.8 or some shit right?
but yeah his reviews make GS really inconsistant.
He gave mgs 2 a 9.8 or some shit right?
LinesInTheSand said:A closer look at two of Gamespot's more contraversial reviews:
What is Greg Kasavin really saying with his latest Xbox flops?
He is inferring that he doesn't like the premise of Jade empire. He is saying he doesnt like the concept of a RPG set in Chinese Mythology.
He is saying he doesnt like 'high tech espionage' at all. This is the 3rd Splinter Cell game he has assigned himself to review. He was one of the VERY FEW AND FIRST to knock the original.
Kasavin can review any game he wants, he calls the shots as site editor. Why would he assign himself the 'grueling task' of reviewing 'yet another' Splinter Cell?' Why devote 20+ hours to a RPG if he doesnt like the concept to begin with?
Take a look at those screengrabs again, they are very telling.
So why, as the editor of Gamespot would he put himself as the reviewer of these titles? He has an obvious distaste for them at their core.
If we are to buy the premise that Greg Kasivin is the 'tough reviewer' and Jeff Gerstman is his good cop counterpart, then why is it that Greg pretty much exclusively reviews highly anticipated Xbox titles? Gerstman never reviews Xbox titles, that is until recently, he reviewed UC2 and Psychonauts, giving these future bargain binners nice if even a bit inflated scores in UC2's case. These both came after the 1 2 punch of SC3 and Jade Empire.
Right now SC3 and Jade empire are at 93.6% and 91% at Game Rankings. Are his scores from the herat, or are they hype killers AND Attention Grabbers for site traffic?
Gamespot is not only out to gain hits for outrageous flops, but they are also looking to kil any sort of Xbox hype they can. Anyone remember all those negative Halo 2 'ilovebees' editorials they posted? They snubbed Halo 2 for 'Best Game AND Best XBox Game at E3' They also snubbed it for Xbox game of the year, giving that title to a multiplatform game.
Gamespot is clearly out to not only kill Xbox hype, they are also out to kill Xbox 1st party franchises. If Kasavin reviews forze, which im sure he will, it will flop. Forza will flop, mark my words. Jade Empire is another example of this, what an embarassing score for a game whose X360 sequel has already been announced.
I think a more important question is why the fuck do you care what he thinks?
God's Hand
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He's a reviewer. He's no different than you or I. Who the fuck cares what he gave these games? If you agree with his tastes, then you likey agree with his reviews. If you don't, go to a site that gave your game the highest score. And since when is an 8 point anything bad?
the year 20XX
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So, 'apparently slightly biased against Xbox in reviews' = Satan?
Also, Splinter Cell is multiplatform.
Also, Splinter Cell is multiplatform.
LinesInTheSand
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It's about deflating hype, a Bioware game got a low 8? The best Splinter Cell to date got a low 8? They are high profile embarassements. And they are deliberate.
Alex
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That's why you don't read reviews and simply study up on titles, take thoughts from friends and peers and make your own choices. All of that is pretty easy at this forum, afterall. Hell of a lot more accurate than playing russian roulette with someone elses opinion. Espescially if you're going to the trouble of making threads to discredit them.
LinesInTheSand said:
When is 8.6 considered a low 8? Don't you think YOU are being a bit biased? When has a 8.5 Great game suddenly become a high profile embarassement? I'm really starting to get sick and tired of people complaining about reviewers if there favorite game gets anything below a 8 or now anything below a 9. How can every game be a great, a best or flawless game? Where is the high standard set then? 5 and 6 should be average, that means a game that you would pick up off the shelf and most people would enjoy, 7 to 8 should be above average games, those games that are must haves, not just pick up on a whim and enjoy, the games that people are waiting for. 9 and 10's should be reserved for those rare few gems that come out yearly that are absolute must have system sellers.
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LinesInTheSand said:A closer look at two of Gamespot's more contraversial reviews:
What is Greg Kasavin really saying with his latest Xbox flops?
He is inferring that he doesn't like the premise of Jade empire. He is saying he doesnt like the concept of a RPG set in Chinese Mythology.
He is saying he doesnt like 'high tech espionage' at all. This is the 3rd Splinter Cell game he has assigned himself to review. He was one of the VERY FEW AND FIRST to knock the original.
Kasavin can review any game he wants, he calls the shots as site editor. Why would he assign himself the 'grueling task' of reviewing 'yet another' Splinter Cell?' Why devote 20+ hours to a RPG if he doesnt like the concept to begin with?
Take a look at those screengrabs again, they are very telling.
So why, as the editor of Gamespot would he put himself as the reviewer of these titles? He has an obvious distaste for them at their core.
If we are to buy the premise that Greg Kasivin is the 'tough reviewer' and Jeff Gerstman is his good cop counterpart, then why is it that Greg pretty much exclusively reviews highly anticipated Xbox titles? Gerstman never reviews Xbox titles, that is until recently, he reviewed UC2 and Psychonauts, giving these future bargain binners nice if even a bit inflated scores in UC2's case. These both came after the 1 2 punch of SC3 and Jade Empire.
Right now SC3 and Jade empire are at 93.6% and 91% at Game Rankings. Are his scores from the herat, or are they hype killers AND Attention Grabbers for site traffic?
Gamespot is not only out to gain hits for outrageous flops, but they are also looking to kil any sort of Xbox hype they can. Anyone remember all those negative Halo 2 'ilovebees' editorials they posted? They snubbed Halo 2 for 'Best Game AND Best XBox Game at E3' They also snubbed it for Xbox game of the year, giving that title to a multiplatform game.
Gamespot is clearly out to not only kill Xbox hype, they are also out to kill Xbox 1st party franchises. If Kasavin reviews forze, which im sure he will, it will flop. Forza will flop, mark my words. Jade Empire is another example of this, what an embarassing score for a game whose X360 sequel has already been announced.
I think you have a point, but you are way too dramatic about it. I think he's a biased, semi-powerful (for Gamespot) party-pooper and your analysis of him is pretty spot-on.
But Satan? Gimme a fuck'n break!
Kabuki Waq
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Obviously Lines was just exaggerating with the title
cmon noone entered this thread that Greg K actually was satan :lol
.....thats probably his dad.
cmon noone entered this thread that Greg K actually was satan :lol
.....thats probably his dad.
Ninja Scooter
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all that writeup and you didn't stop to ask yourself the most important question: Who gives a shit? What a dumbass thread. Everybody is a fucking critic with their own opinion. Play the games you like and move the fuck on.
CabbageRed
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Kasavin is Satan but I see no reason to put down his reviews as it is a matter of balance. Just as evil and good balance one another, so do his reviews balance out IGN's reviews. IGN, of course, being God.
You know reviewers complain about readers only caring about the numerical score and not the text, but if these reviewers could actually explain the feel and strengths and weaknesses of a game within the text then maybe people WOULD read the text. It's been a long time since I've seen a review do that though. Most reviews I read end up feeling nothing like my experience with the game. Many skip over important parts and issues, instead giving a basic rundown of everything with about 4 sentences worth of quality information within a 2-3 page review. I love how the recent Super Monkey Ball DX reviews don't comment at all about the quality of the new stages or how it's controls suffer or strengthen from console controller variation in comparison to the Gamecube oirignal.
Zerodoppler
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So you're saying he's a fictional character? I guess that makes sense...
LinesInTheSand
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yea games like Twisted Metal Black(9.5), Suideken 3 (9.1), TOny Hawk 3(10.0) for PS2(Not the GC version) are far more deservingPonn01 said:
Kasavin is one of the few reviewers i trust.. he does´nt throw away 9+ scores everywhere...
9+ should be reserved for the top 3% of all games
I believe the game mags ALWAYS overscore games..
a score of 8 should be counted as good.. that is 4/5
how many movies get over 4,5 out of 5? yep.. not that many
I for one think he overscored Jade by at least 1.0 for the record
boring, linear game
9+ should be reserved for the top 3% of all games
I believe the game mags ALWAYS overscore games..
a score of 8 should be counted as good.. that is 4/5
how many movies get over 4,5 out of 5? yep.. not that many
I for one think he overscored Jade by at least 1.0 for the record
boring, linear game
I think it'd be cool if IGN and GameSpot simply stopped scoring games and let the tag lines and review texts speak for themselves.
If anything, it'd force more people to read extra words each day, which our society sure could use. My lord, I overheard a guy in his 20's say "bafroom" yesterday in the check out line of the supermarket.
If anything, it'd force more people to read extra words each day, which our society sure could use. My lord, I overheard a guy in his 20's say "bafroom" yesterday in the check out line of the supermarket.
I can't read a three-page review any more.
I looked at the Jade Empire review, and having not played the game, what I read seemed well-reasoned... but even though it's one of the games that I'm really interested in, I couldn't bring myself to slog through the entire thing. Online videogame reviews aren't for me any more....
I looked at the Jade Empire review, and having not played the game, what I read seemed well-reasoned... but even though it's one of the games that I'm really interested in, I couldn't bring myself to slog through the entire thing. Online videogame reviews aren't for me any more....
Kasavin is a great reviewer, but not when he dislikes a game you love. Nope! He's Satan then!
Lines, you're giving yourself room to bitch, because as far as i'm concerned, an 8.6 is a good game score.
OH and by the way, did you notice underneath there, the links? Where it says "see Splinter Cell CT on" and it lists other systems? Yeah, it lists the Xbox one as the 'best' version. so why are you whining?
Lines, you're giving yourself room to bitch, because as far as i'm concerned, an 8.6 is a good game score.
OH and by the way, did you notice underneath there, the links? Where it says "see Splinter Cell CT on" and it lists other systems? Yeah, it lists the Xbox one as the 'best' version. so why are you whining?
theREBELins
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It's ridiculous how people think games that score in the 8s are bad. With IGN and Gamespot, it's a 100 point fucking system, 0.1 - 10.0 - and if 8.4 and 8.6 are flops, what's the fucking point of 0.1 to 7.9??? Just make it out of 2 already in that case! I seriously think reviews ought to be text only.
mosaic said:
I've heard professional writers and editors say "aks" and "pitures."
The thing is, one of the biggest offenders is a very smart guy and is on his way to becoming a lawyer. So while it sounds horrible to hear, that stuff is not necessarily an indication of poor education or low intelligence.
I've also worked with professional writers and editors who are absolutely incompetent with the language. Some don't know -- or can't master -- simple usage (its/it's). Some are considerably more handicapped.
He's actually one of my favorite reviewers, to be honest. His reviews are generally tough and the points he tends to raise are points I usually agree with. He doesn't overrate games. I simply can't take reviews from IGN seriously, for example. Every game seems like "the next big thing".
He was completely right and was one of the only reviewers with the balls to say so. The series offers plenty of entertainment, but it IS quite flawed and does not deserve an "A" range score.
He awarded it a 9.6 and, hey, I totally agree with that as well. MGS2 is one of my favorite games this gen and I too would be willing to award it a 9.6.
He was completely right and was one of the only reviewers with the balls to say so. The series offers plenty of entertainment, but it IS quite flawed and does not deserve an "A" range score.
He awarded it a 9.6 and, hey, I totally agree with that as well. MGS2 is one of my favorite games this gen and I too would be willing to award it a 9.6.
wipeout364
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I really think IGN is going to need to expand their review system to 11 or 12 with the number of ridiculous grades they give games. Who can take them seriously at all. I used to like their reviews but 9.9 for Jade empire, come on. Honestly a greater than 9 game should really be mind blowing in just about every aspect. A 9.9 should really shake your gaming foundations.
Duck of Death
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LinesInTheSand said:
Hahaha holy shit what the fuck is wrong with you.