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[Cynn]

My son is 6. He loves Mario. Todays Mario is totally different then mine growing up. If he dies enough, here comes the almighty Impenetrable Pwing to save the day. Ive taught him better. Its a crutch and it doesnt have to be used because not every game will offer you a way out when things get rough. Ive shown him to become better through trial and error and earn the right to play the next level.

Kudos to you man! I think gaming can be a really fun way to teach kids about self worth, patience, challenge and problem solving. I believe what you are doing will make your son a better person. The cheat, glitch, troll, pay to win generation of today is going to have a rough time in the real world.

 

[Uthred]

The cheat, glitch, troll, pay to win generation of today is going to have a rough time in the real world.

Yeah, I mean, stuff like that never helps you get ahead in the real world.

 

[Cynn]

Yeah, I mean, stuff like that never helps you get ahead in the real world.

For the 1% of the guys on top of the world it does. For the rest of the doofuses sitting in prison probably not ya think?

 

[SirMossyBloke]

People saying he shouldn't have tried to cheat obviously haven't watched the full video. If you listen, he joins a chat with this Kirmit guy and you can clearly hear him surprised about some glitch that was he was just informed about, had no idea what it was, and simply wanted this guy to try it on his game so he could then share it with his twitch viewers.

The kid didn't care about skipping levels, he'd obviously done it properly twice. He wanted to help other people out through this so called glitcher.

Kid just got duped.

 

[johnny956]

People saying he shouldn't have tried to cheat obviously haven't watched the full video. If you listen, he joins a chat with this Kirmit guy and you can clearly hear him surprised about some glitch that was he was just informed about, had no idea what it was, and simply wanted this guy to try it on his game so he could then share it with his twitch viewers.

The kid didn't care about skipping levels, he'd obviously done it properly twice. He wanted to help other people out through this so called glitcher.

Kid just got duped.

Yup I'm hoping over the weekend or on Monday I see an update to this story that Bungie restored his characters. Hopefully they have the capability.

 

[Waikis]

The cheat, glitch, troll, pay to win generation of today is going to have a rough time in the real world.

This statement feels like an over exaggeration to me, cheating and glitching has always been part of the gaming industry. If any, back then it was even easier to use a hex editor to edit your game saves for pc games, there is also trainers to do that. Console gamers in the early days also have game genie or pro action replay which can achieve similar things.

Glitching also doesn't prohibit creativity either, it's intelectually stimulating to find loopholes from the creator's oversight. Glitching is also an important topic as well in the speed run community.

 

[Uthred]

For the 1% of the guys on top of the world it does. For the rest of the doofuses sitting in prison probably not ya think?

Yes clearly they are the only two possible outcomes and are completely analagous real world outcomes to cheating in a videogame. You seem to have a good handle on this.

 

[Cynn]

Yes clearly they are the only two possible outcomes and are completely analagous real world outcomes to cheating in a videogame. You seem to have a good handle on this.

And you seem unduly defensive about my opinion. We can disagree and that's ok. I think there's value to what the guy is teaching his kid.

 

[meanspartan]

Yes the kid shouldnt have tried to use an exploit. But hes a fucking kid. So many people here playing it high and mighty Im sure you were all paragons of morality at 12 years old.

i hope the person who did this gets hit by a bus. Asshole scum.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Yes the kid shouldnt have tried to use an exploit. But hes a fucking kid. So many people here playing it high and mighty Im sure you were all paragons of morality at 12 years old.

i hope the person who did this gets hit by a bus. Asshole scum.

Like, honestly, if I was one of the idiots who do the FIFA hacking shit, I'd go after this asshole's account.

Just saying.

 

[CanUKlehead]

Yup I'm hoping over the weekend or on Monday I see an update to this story that Bungie restored his characters. Hopefully they have the capability.

I think Bungie's holding firm on their No Restore policy, and they've talked about tighter restrictions on SharePlay so this doesn't happen again, so I'm guessing that's it.

I can see the perp getting banned though. Whether by Bungie, Sony or the internet mob

 

[EGOMON]

Fuck "learning lesson" noise if you make kid sob like that you are a fucking idiot also did people see how he handled the situation after rejoining the party he was more mature than this edited kirmit and most people I meet online nowadays
Edit: I apologise for using that word I was so mad when I saw the video couldn't hold myself

 

[Kikujiro]

And you seem unduly defensive about my opinion. We can disagree and that's ok. I think there's value to what the guy is teaching his kid.

No, you're pretty crazy to comprare glitching a videogame to doing shit in real life that will get you in jail, it has nothing to do with opinions. And as other people pointed out the kid just wanted to see the glitch and share it with his viewers. The only thing he learned is to never trust the kindness of a stranger, which is pretty sad.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I'd give the kid my guardians if I could.

 

[hmmmdonuts]

Bungie was thinking about a less permanent solution.

I think PSO 2 has a good implementation.

Once you decide to delete a character, the character won't be deleted for at least 24 hours, in case you decide to change your mind after the decision.

 

[MikeyB]

I don't understand the sensitivity level of some of the posts here. Isn't this the same general humor that makes things like The Simpsons, It's Always Sunny, and Family Guy so funny to so many people? Grown people acting immature for a laugh at the expense of someone else?

Failing to distinguish fiction from reality, hmmm... Oh hi

 

[lazyproblems]

Poor kid. Obviously he was naive, but the guy who deleted his account is a total asshole. This is just disgusting:

You have to do the digging yourself...

The user is "Buzzgoku" - http://www.reddit.com/user/Buzzgoku

 

[Mista]

This is awful. Lesson learned I guess?

 

[Any Questions]

The guy was probably a disgruntled goth with a small cock. Keep him away from the real guns out there.

 

[Baldwin_the_First]

Wow. It still would have been a dick move to do it to a adult, but to do it to as young a kid as this? Holy shit, your moral compass must be in the gutter. This is just fucking ridiculous. What is that I hear about the troll being something like 40 years old? Is this true?

 

[thelastword]

That's messed up, how does the guy have the ability to delete stuff in a person's game though. Sony should look into this and put further restrictions.

 

[Diablohead]

That's messed up, how does the guy have the ability to delete stuff in a person's game though. Sony should look into this and put further restrictions.

Share play is just streaming the game to another console, anything you can do in the game itself is the same for them as it is for you.

In destiny you just hover over your character on the menu and hold down X/Square for 10 seconds, pretty much all you need to do I believe.

 

[Demon Ice]

i hope the person who did this gets hit by a bus. Asshole scum.

Yeah he totally deserves to die painfully for messing with a kid's video game.

You seem emotionally healthy and not at all projecting.

Fuck "learning lesson" noise if you make kid sob like that you are a fucking idiot also did people see how he handled the situation after rejoining the party he was more mature than this fag kirmit and most people I meet online nowadays

Wow, haven't seen that word on GAF in a while

 

[thelastword]

Share play is just streaming the game to another console, anything you can do in the game itself is the same for them as it is for you.

In destiny you just hover over your character on the menu and hold down X/Square for 10 seconds, pretty much all you need to do I believe.

I've never share played myself, been meaning to for a while but never got the chance. He deleted that way too easily though. Could the kid not get his save back by downloading it from the cloud? At least everything he had prior to that play session.

 

[DC1]

You can tell which posters are parents.

I was enjoying it as something just silly till I heard him cry, then thought of my baby boy, then I was sad.

I miss being heartless.

True. Except the hartless part.. What's wrong with you!?!


.....Being ignorant of the emotional trappings of parenting is blissful.

 

[immortal-joe]

Poor kid. Obviously he was naive, but the guy who deleted his account is a total asshole. This is just disgusting:

Yeah see, now...now I'm fucking pissed.

 

[ffdgh]

Poor kid. Obviously he was naive, but the guy who deleted his account is a total asshole. This is just disgusting:

Yeesh. Dude is seriously vile.

 

[Killing_Joke]

Just don't get why he keeps getting labeled as a cheater when the "cheat" didn't even exist. He clearly played the fuck out of the game, probably more than the majority of the user base. Oh, and he's 11.

 

[HeisenbergLannister]

Typical "lol look at me be an asshole!" idiot that lives on the internet where there is no punishment for this, but wouldn't dare try something similar in real life where the guy would get his ass kicked by messing with the wrong person.

What a rebel.

 

[Two Words]

And you seem unduly defensive about my opinion. We can disagree and that's ok. I think there's value to what the guy is teaching his kid.

He's, not defensive. He just thinks your opinion analogy is dumb because, well, it is.

 

[bombshell]

I've never share played myself, been meaning to for a while but never got the chance. He deleted that way too easily though. Could the kid not get his save back by downloading it from the cloud? At least everything he had prior to that play session.

There are no saves in Destiny, it's all on the game's servers.

 

[Two Words]

Bungie should allow you to password protect your characters from deletion or people playing on your character. It's too easy for a jackass you know or an angry SO to screw with you by deleting all of your characters when you aren't home.

 

[Idba]

The cheat, glitch, troll, pay to win generation of today is going to have a rough time in the real world.

First of all, whether people cheat or glitch in games isn't going affect them significantly in the real world, bad values are. And no, cheating glitching don't give bad values, parents do.

Also pay to win is only going to affect the kids' pockets instead than behaviour.

 

[nobodyshero]

Fuck "learning lesson" noise if you make kid sob like that you are a fucking idiot also did people see how he handled the situation after rejoining the party he was more mature than this fag kirmit and most people I meet online nowadays

Could you not use that word here please? Especially in a sentence where you're commenting on maturity?

 

[Idba]

I don't understand the sensitivity level of some of the posts here. Isn't this the same general humor that makes things like The Simpsons, It's Always Sunny, and Family Guy so funny to so many people? Grown people acting immature for a laugh at the expense of someone else?

Being a stupid lovable fictional character ≠ douchebag

 

[blackjaw]

more mature than this fag kirmit

Probably want to edit your words...this isn't 4ch...not acceptable to use that word like that.

 

[Idba]

For the 1% of the guys on top of the world it does. For the rest of the doofuses sitting in prison probably not ya think?

You think that all 1% has a perfect untouched moral compass?

 

[gunslikewhoa]

I don't understand the sensitivity level of some of the posts here. Isn't this the same general humor that makes things like The Simpsons, It's Always Sunny, and Family Guy so funny to so many people? Grown people acting immature for a laugh at the expense of someone else?

I don't know... I laughed, but not because it was a kid. I would've laughed if it was a 40 year old doing it to another 40 year old. Why is judgment of what other people find funny allowed, while other personal judgments are not?

I know I'm immature, but there is some real irony in getting cheated while trying to cheat.

You know this is real life, right? Are you saying that anything that you find funny on television should be fair game in life? Are you really that thick?

 

[Mammoth Jones]

I'm not really outraged about the "glitching" as there are SO many exploits and glitches that players constantly take advantage in Destiny in various strikes and raids. (Crota bridge cheese, anyone?)

But in the end the kid was going to eventually learn the same life lesson that most of us learn: You can not trust strangers. I'd rather he learn in the relatively harmless way that he did than learn the far more painful way that unfortunately millions of children around the world have had to.

I don't find his crying amusing. It's sad. He's a little kid. He ain't deserve that. But through those tears hopefully it clicked within him that the internet isn't a harmless place and that he can't just go around trusting everyone.

With that being said I'd be delighted if the guy that deleted his character had his account banned by Bungie.

 

[TheGreyHulk]

Kind of funny and sad at the same time. Funny in the sense that the troll was able to dupe the kid into giving him control of his account just to delete his time earned items and sad because, well, its a kid who got duped and was crying over his lost his characters and item....

It's a valuable lesson to learn though. Dont always trust strangers with your shit be it digital or not. He'll over it

It was still a bit funny though. I know the crying part got to a lot of people, but i cant lie... It got a chuckle out of me.

 

[TCKaos]

A whole bunch of people in this thread never played Runescape back in its hayday. I was like 11 years old, used to play Runescape all the time, and you'd always have those scammers looking to trim your armor for you for only like 10k g. You're like "Oh shit, that'd be cool" and then you never see your armor or gold again.

This is just that, live, with voice chat.

Do I feel bad? Sure. But it's his own fault for literally giving a total stranger control over your game. In order to cheat even.

 

[Goreomedy]

Fuck "learning lesson" noise if you make kid sob like that you are a fucking idiot also did people see how he handled the situation after rejoining the party he was more mature than this fag kirmit and most people I meet online nowadays

Speaking of lessons learned...

 

[kaiju]

Not buying the argument that the kid deserved this because he "cheated".

We're talking about a game that had several glitches from the start. Glitches that were freely hyped on all kinds of game sites from Kotaku to Joystiq and then some. Does the Loot Cave ring a bell? Yes that was a glitch, it's basically considered cheating, and I'd be willing to bet many Destiny players here took advantage of it.

Kotaku had several guides about how to get to the loot cave, how to exploit it, even a R.I.P. article when it was removed. Are (avid Destiny fans/Kotaku writers) Kirk Hamilton and Jason Scheier cheaters? Should their characters get deleted for doing so?

 

[xxbrothawizxx63]

You have to do the digging yourself...

The user is "Buzzgoku" - http://www.reddit.com/user/Buzzgoku

Wow, just an all around incredibly horrible person.

His posts are just sickening.

 

[meanspartan]

Yeah he totally deserves to die painfully for messing with a kid's video game.

You seem emotionally healthy and not at all projecting.

LoL I didn't mean literally, sorry if that wasn't clear. But the dude is a total asshole. And someone who will bully a child like that? There is a good chance they are capable of things that are deserving of being hit by a bus

The dude shouldn't be harassed or anything (and I know witch hunts are a no-no) but since we have his PSN, can't we report him or something? I might if I can.

 

[meanspartan]

LoL I didn't mean literally, sorry if that wasn't clear. But the dude is a total asshole. And someone who will bully a child like that? There is a good chance they are capable of things that are deserving of being hit by a bus

Wow, just an all around incredibly horrible person.

His posts are just sickening.

Well, after seeing THOSE posts, if this is indeed him....I take it back. I mean it literally. Get hit by a bus asshole.

 

[Deku Tree]

Wait... So what happened with all this recently? Can someone update me?

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Wait... So what happened with all this recently? Can someone update me?

Well, after everything that went down in the OP, his mother uploaded it to YouTube just to really highlight what happened. Bungie themselves also linked to it, it then went to Reddit and beyond.

Now, a ton of people included a clan of dads, have offered to help the kids d get back to where he was. The news has now gone to sites like GameSpot and Business Insider with warnings about game sharing.

As far as the dipshit who did this, well...nothing has been done so far as far as I'm aware.

 

[Realyn]

As far as the dipshit who did this, well...nothing has been done so far as far as I'm aware.

Uhm yeah, what exactly are you proposing should be done to him? Cyber stalking? Posting his address? Last time it wasn't a felony to be an asshole.

If anything you could "blame" Sony - and they would rightfully respond with their child protection system, warnings before share playing and all that. Which leaves the parents of that kid.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Uhm yeah, what exactly is your idea of what should be done to him? Cyber stalking? Posting his address? Last time it wasn't a felony to be an asshole.

If anything you could "blame" Sony - and they would rightfully respond with their child protection system, warnings before share playing and all that. Which leaves the parents of that kid.

What? I just said nothing had been done, not that he should be shot by a firing squad.

He did however break Sony's TOS, so technically he should be banned from PSN. He's done this more than once.