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Gucci Messiah
Banned
Clothed, but I still really like her original outfit the most.
I doubt Satsuki is the real final villain.
I doubt Satsuki is the real final villain.
Yeah, they look good. Studio Pablo - the dudes who worked on Flower of Evil's background art, among others - is assisting as well.
For sure. Just swapping in his Gatchaman Crowds OST would be quite an improvement.
The original outfit is so much better in absolutely every regard.
I think if the theory that her battle outfit will get less revealing the more uniforms she defeats holds true, though, it might look neat if it winds up being a body-suit (I suppose as depicted) or something.
Colour me someone who'd much prefer Iwasaki over Sawano, as well. One can't help but feel that Iwasaki's experimental stylings would suit the show far more over Sawano's noisy orchestral thrums and guitar riffs.
I think if the theory that her battle outfit will get less revealing the more uniforms she defeats holds true, though, it might look neat if it winds up being a body-suit (I suppose as depicted) or something.
Colour me someone who'd much prefer Iwasaki over Sawano, as well. One can't help but feel that Iwasaki's experimental stylings would suit the show far more over Sawano's noisy orchestral thrums and guitar riffs.
Current. The whole scene wouldn't even have worked otherwise for fuck's sake!
Delusibeta
Banned
Meanwhile, I guess I know why the UK was previously passed over: Wakanim, a French anime streaming site, is expanding to the UK. First pick-up? Kill la Kill. Problem: the site isn't up yet, so instead they're going to be squatting over on All The Anime's site for a bit.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Agreed. I'm not as into half-naked high schoolers as I once was.
I wouldn't mind if this was a joke outfit some episode, but as her main battle outfit? Less interested.
Enjoyed the episode though!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
yes!
CLOTHED!
Hell, make the negative space on the outfit red. Done, finished, it looks great and still looks like a mouth.
Changing the outfit from a SLING to a little black dress solves the problem while still allowing you to have a little fanservice.
I think some people are missing the point that uniforms and by extension uniformity are an important part of the concept of KLK. The show drives this point home in the first few minutes. What Ryuko wears resembles an uniform, but it's actually the exact opposite. Outside of a few design elements, there's absolutely nothing uniform about it. It's ridiculous, loud, impractical and completely unique - and I think that's exactly the point. Just a black uniform, or her initial, slightly customized school uniform, or any outfit that actually looks like it could be a real uniform, wouldn't have the same impact.
CornBurrito
Member
First episode felt extremely rushed (in pace) to me. With tons of expository and unnatural dialogue. I'll give the second episode a shot but this might not be for me.
Absolutely. The best thing about that show - just like with C. Music Goes On and In The Name Of Love are fantastic as well, and exactly what's missing in KLK. Loud and proud and full of energy. Iwasaki shits on Sawano from great heights.For sure. Just swapping in his Gatchaman Crowds OST would be quite an improvement.
And yet it's still completely pandering.
You have to be very careful with the "fighting uniformity with naked chaos" especially in this situation where WE'RE ASSUMING that the lack of shame and the embracing of nudity is the only weapon that can effectually tear down the tyranny of uniformity and order. If this goes full on Gurren Lagann and the cast is fighting against their version of anti-spirals, resulting in everyone wearing dumb outfits that have literally no purpose other than to titillate, this show is going to shoot itself in the foot.
In fashion, you can stand out against the norm without resorting to showing as much skin as possible. I want this show to understand that. Because if they don't, we're going to get the Gainax version of Senran Kagura, and that would the single biggest disappointment that I could possibly have for anime, as a genre, because it's an admission that even the greatest, most creative people have to resort to baseless extreme fanservice in order for their projects to exist.
Fornaximus
Member
Current suit is fine, and I'm not one for pointless fan service.
Wow, that was pretty fucking ridiculous. Not a bad thing, and it's not like I didn't expect it, but it was still more than my expectation. Overall enjoyable though, I'll keep watching and hopefully they'll slow things down just a tad bit now that they've got a lot of exposition out of the way.
But holy shit, Mako's little brother running away was fucking gold. "Dumbass, I ain't got time for no compulsory education! No way, bitch!"
But holy shit, Mako's little brother running away was fucking gold. "Dumbass, I ain't got time for no compulsory education! No way, bitch!"
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Next ep needs more Mako.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
First episode was quite a ride, and I'm guessing it's giving us the main points worth giving a damn about. For maybe the first half.
And I'd argue it isn't, because it's too blatant. It's literally beyond sexy. The clothed alternative posted in this thread is a lot more sexy and what I'd actually consider pandering. It's a typical "sexy school uniform" outfit you'd expect from an ecchi show like Kämpfer. In fact, one of the characters in Kämpfer wears a very similar uniform.
You're saying that because it goes into the idea of the grotesque, it's no longer sexy, and that because the edit does leave more to the imagination, it's more sexy, and thus a bigger problem.
This is an interesting position to take, and i'm not saying you're wrong.
Honestly, we won't really know until we see more of the show and figure out where this whole thing is going. I just really hope they have a clear idea of where they want this series to end up, because if it's all the main characters in slings and nipple bikini's because "Nudity is the chaos that can cut through this order, like a pair of scissors" this show can only go so far because it will be doing more to sell things like this than tell the hotblooded story that we're looking for.
I really wanna like this show, but I don't have time for shit that's going to be fanservice for the sake of fanservice. We have porn for that, it's a lot more direct.
To be fair, this is pretty much the whole premise of Panty and Stocking, the director's last show.
Which I personally thought was pretty bad, but more because it was a comedy show that went for the easy joke instead of doing something more intelligent, ESPECIALLY because I was watching Bakemonogatari and Sayonara Zetsubo-Sensei, which are WAY more clever when it comes to sexual humor. Considering the crux of Panty and Stocking was sexual humor, it's okay to have characters be pandering here and there in the sake of the joke, as long as it stays funny. For me at least, it didn't, you can only make the virgin/cum/slut/pussy joke so many times before it gets tired. I got to the Transformers episode and bowed out.
CornBurrito
Member
Oh thank god someone else put into words my exact thoughts on Panty & Stocking.
That's exactly what I'm saying. You see, people don't really like sluts. They do like sexy, and maybe even slightly risque, but there's a limit. And ecchi shows are designed with that idea in mind - they try to make the characters sexy and desirable (unless it's Queen's Blade, and I actually like that show and respect it for its honesty), but to show more, they require excuses, like beach episodes or clothing damage.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Put me in the "not fond of the battle outfit" camp. Mainly because I really really like the MC otherwise, but I feel the outfit kinda undermines her lone avenger character type.
But I'll live.
But I'll live.
...That's an interesting position to take. Why don't you like the blushing?
Villainize me, but I like the current battle outfit because it led to her blushing throughout the whole fight while being completely bad-ass. It's a nice change from the usual battle-girl anime, where they're either completely comfortable with all contenders being half naked or cool with the g-string until it gets cut, at which point you hear the token 'iiiiiiii' of embarrassment.
I might be weird, but the blushing, while totally understandable given the skimpy outfit forced on her, is also the one thing about it I would consider pandering. Because it's cute, and that kind of defeats the purpose.
I assume it'll switch between the two forms.
and midriff!
Fornaximus
Member
I agree the suit will probably be changing as hinted by that strand of cloth being absorbed into it. GIGA SCISSOR FABRIC COMBINING!
Yeah, hope they don't overdo her to the point of annoyingness tho.
I don't have any moral problems with the uniform, but it's a pretty shitty design. It fits into the overblown campiness of the rest of the show, but it's not pleasing to look at :/
I don't know exactly how they could have done the same concept with a better design, but I'm pretty sure they could.
In general the more mundane designs (Mako, her brother, her family) stick out in how tidy and clean they are compared to the student council guys who are so full of props it risks becoming overwhelming. Sushio's artstyle saves the show, but I dunno how it'll look when a lesser artist takes on animation directing.
I don't know exactly how they could have done the same concept with a better design, but I'm pretty sure they could.
In general the more mundane designs (Mako, her brother, her family) stick out in how tidy and clean they are compared to the student council guys who are so full of props it risks becoming overwhelming. Sushio's artstyle saves the show, but I dunno how it'll look when a lesser artist takes on animation directing.
Fuck it. Give me tits and ass. I like current. No Shame.
I like this show. I need to watch Gurren Laggen... Loafing...
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