KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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PjotrStroganov said:
Holy crap at the over the top death animations!



The rest looks impressive as usual.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one...


The game looks absolutely phenomenal except for two parts:

1) The melee animations with the guns are horrible.

2) The death animations are so dumb. Most of the time they don't reflect the gunfire at all.



The rest makes up for it, by a long shot, but still... those two flaws annoy the hell out of me.
 
Immortal_Daemon said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one...


The game looks absolutely phenomenal except for two parts:

1) The melee animations with the guns are horrible.

2) The death animations are so dumb. Most of the time they don't reflect the gunfire at all.



The rest makes up for it, by a long shot, but still... those two flaws annoy the hell out of me.
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The first is debateable, but as for #2, really?

The models interact amazingly with every single shot that hits them. It's weird in MP, but in single player it's like perfectly cinematic..
 
Immortal_Daemon said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one...


The game looks absolutely phenomenal except for two parts:

1) The melee animations with the guns are horrible.

2) The death animations are so dumb. Most of the time they don't reflect the gunfire at all.



The rest makes up for it, by a long shot, but still... those two flaws annoy the hell out of me.
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I agree with you on both points but I understand why #2 happens. Since the characters have to transition into the waving for a medic animation they need to fall in a specific way so that the move from the death animation to the in need of aid animation isn't jolting. I'm pretty sure that both will be less noticeable in actual gameplay as well.
 
sankt-Antonio said:
from the vids, the death animation has some kind of lag to it - its the only anoying thing i could think of by watching all the mp vids..
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It's been mentioned a lot. I'm pretty sure that Guerilla was working on a fix for this in the final game.
 
The death animation delay is only a mp issue though (viewing the sp footage I got it's always instantaneous). Some latency ordeal with the dedicated servers somehow.
 
sankt-Antonio said:
from the vids, the death animation has some kind of lag to it - its the only anoying thing i could think of by watching all the mp vids..
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Isn't the Beta build rather old? I heard they were working on this as well.
 
Wollan said:
The death animation delay is only a mp issue though (viewing the sp footage I got it's always instantaneous). Some latency ordeal with the dedicated servers somehow.
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Are you going to spill the beans come 12 midnight or what? :Is there a time on the NDA?
 
Not true the delay animation is due to the fact, that we can be respawn by medics and your character make signs to other player to revive him.
If you shot him before count down is over (yes it's vicious) he is instantly dead...
 
kensama said:
Not true the delay animation is due to the fact, that we can be respawn by medics and your character make signs to other player to revive him.
If you shot him before count down is over (yes it's vicious) he is instantly dead...
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problem is/was that if you killed someone, for instance with a shotgun shot, you hear the sound that you killed someone, but the death animation starts half a second later--- the guy you killed stands there for a fraction of a second and then the animation starts...and this locks very strange
 
Fenderputty said:
Are you going to spill the beans come 12 midnight or what? :Is there a time on the NDA?
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The NDA is still watertight, I'm afraid. The only relaxing of embargo's going down relates to the PRESS not the Beta Testers.
 
Wollan said:
The death animation delay is only a mp issue though (viewing the sp footage I got it's always instantaneous). Some latency ordeal with the dedicated servers somehow.
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I would think the death animation lag is because you can get revived in multiplayer while in single player when you kill someone they're dead and that's it no reviving/reaching to the sky animation in single player.
RoboPlato said:
I agree with you on both points but I understand why #2 happens. Since the characters have to transition into the waving for a medic animation they need to fall in a specific way so that the move from the death animation to the in need of aid animation isn't jolting. I'm pretty sure that both will be less noticeable in actual gameplay as well.
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kensama said:
Not true the delay animation is due to the fact, that we can be respawn by medics and your character make signs to other player to revive him.
If you shot him before count down is over (yes it's vicious) he is instantly dead...
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Exactly.
 
tiddles said:
lol - is that the latest polite form of introduction? :lol

yes, I would imagine almost certainly...!
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That's how we Helghast introduce ourselves... with a bullet! :p

Soo if you are from the dev team, or if anyone from Guerrilla is reading this, please tell the character artist behind the Helghast Scout design that van Gogh is his BITCH!

:bow

Greatest design ever.
 
Iain Howe said:
The NDA is still watertight, I'm afraid. The only relaxing of embargo's going down relates to the PRESS not the Beta Testers.
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Sorry ... I meant come the 4th. Is there a time in which people can post stuff, or can they just drop it like it's hot come Wednesday night/Thursday morn at midnight? I thought Wollan was given access to the SP?
 
FFObsessed said:
That's how we Helghast introduce ourselves... with a bullet! :p

Soo if you are from the dev team, or if anyone from Guerrilla is reading this, please tell the character artist behind the Helghast Scout design that van Gogh is his BITCH!

:bow

Greatest design ever.
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The overall design in KZ2 is of course awesome, but whats really awesome is the consistency. Awesomeness awesome.
 
FFObsessed said:
Greatest design ever.
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I want them to an OTS shooter so bad... they are a dev that understands it's important to give the player the impression a character has weight and momentum. This is something you never see in FPS's or in third person, OTS shooters.

I bet if they did a third person (realistic) shooter it would have fuck-awesome animation. And with Killzone character art!? Omg.

Dream game is something from Guerrilla that is primarily built for OTSV but gives the option (on the fly) to jump into FPWV.

Kind of like the first bullshit GRAW video from E3 a few years back, the one that Ubi was never able to match with their actual game (and yet got no shit for, despite the Killzone 2 target video taking all that heat)...
 
recklessmind said:
I want them to an OTS shooter so bad... they are a dev that understands it's important to give the player the impression a character has weight and momentum. This is something you never see in FPS's or in third person, OTS shooters.

I bet if they did a third person (realistic) shooter it would have fuck-awesome animation. And with Killzone character art!? Omg.

Dream game is something from Guerrilla that is primarily built for OTSV but gives the option (on the fly) to jump into FPWV.

Kind of like the first bullshit GRAW video from E3 a few years back, the one that Ubi was never able to match with their actual game (and yet got no shit for, despite the Killzone 2 target video taking all that heat)...
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ISA scout design is truly something special :D

EDIT: Imagine Naughty Dog teaming up with GG to do a Killzone Third-person shooter, with another/new leading character perhaps. A new narrative in the KZ universe. The new third-person perspective would symbolize the new angle of the story . . .

*DROOL!*
 
This game is so 'metal' imagine this : Blasting some MP rounds with some Ramnstein, NiN ,Rob Zombie ,Metal Church,Metallica ,Megadeth ... AWESOME MAN!
 
Fersis said:
Ha awesome ,i read his post and i tought 'But it doesnt have cover in MP' Owned.
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I thought it has a lean and peek system in MP?

The game looks absolutely phenomenal except for two parts:

1) The melee animations with the guns are horrible.
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Yes. That doesn't look satisfying at all :(
 
Fersis said:
This game is so 'metal' imagine this : Blasting some MP rounds with some Ramnstein, NiN ,Rob Zombie ,Metal Church,Metallica ,Megadeth ... AWESOME MAN!
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I've never used custom tracks, or played other music during a game... although I've muted a few games that had really annoying music.

Hazaro said:
Yes. That doesn't look satisfying at all :(
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I miss the Killzone 1 melee... but I guess that wouldn't really work in MP. They need to have more force.
 
Do you automatically go into the mode of waiting for a medic when you get killed? Say if I shoot someone in the head do they automatically go down and cant call for a medic?
 
recklessmind said:
I've never used custom tracks, or played other music during a game... although I've muted a few games that had really annoying music.
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I only used on High Velocity Bowling... Oasis and Deep Purple :D
 
untoldhero said:
Do you automatically go into the mode of waiting for a medic when you get killed? Say if I shoot someone in the head do they automatically go down and cant call for a medic?
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I don't think headshots do it. Explosions will totally kill though. Also, if a grenade goes off near you while you're laying on the ground you will die.
 
EschatonDX said:
The first is debateable, but as for #2, really?

The models interact amazingly with every single shot that hits them. It's weird in MP, but in single player it's like perfectly cinematic..
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When they're being shot, they react just fine.

The problem is death. When they die, they flail around a little bit, and when that animation kicks in, shooting has zero effect, which ruins it (for me).

It's most obvious when a rocket/explosive hits a person, causing him to spin around a bit, rather than get tossed away from the impact.
 
Immortal_Daemon said:
When they're being shot, they react just fine.

The problem is death. When they die, they flail around a little bit, and when that animation kicks in, shooting has zero effect, which ruins it (for me).

It's most obvious when a rocket/explosive hits a person, causing him to spin around a bit, rather than get tossed away from the impact.
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Such a minuscule detail to be deemed as a 'problem'.
 
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
Trollin aint easy man, you gotta take what you can get and run with it.
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I wouldn't really call pointing out the death animations as trolling. In every video that showcase the ridiculous delay and "jumping"/teleporting of the bodies, it really REALLY sticks out, unfortunately.
 
I hope GG will fix the MP death animation where you die, fall on the ground and the character literally slides to the "medic help me" animation. That looks really awkward.
 
I am so eager to play this game. I have one question, do you get any bonus for kill streaks, or is there an notification that you have certain kills in a row?
 
JCreasy said:
ISA scout design is truly something special :D

EDIT: Imagine Naughty Dog teaming up with GG to do a Killzone Third-person shooter, with another/new leading character perhaps. A new narrative in the KZ universe. The new third-person perspective would symbolize the new angle of the story . . .

*DROOL!*
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Just have them team up to do the next Syphon Filter title...
 
Stillmatic said:
Such a minuscule detail to be deemed as a 'problem'.
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Well, as I said above... it's one of the two things that bother me (both things are animations) and the rest of the game looks great.


It just seems dumb that a game with such high production values has such an easy problem.


Oh, and...
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
Trollin aint easy man, you gotta take what you can get and run with it.
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Suck it. No game is perfect.
Pointing out easily-fixable problems (during a beta session, which is what they're for) is not trolling.
 
borsdy said:
Yeah I hate it, I would of at least liked to know what my preferred weapon would be.
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As someone that is in the beta, this is the weapon of choice for around 95% of people playing it

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NameIess said:
Just have them team up to do the next Syphon Filter title...
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Have Sony Bend do Syphon Filter IV and Zipper do SOCOM IV using the Killzone 2 engine.

Also fucking awesome about the extra week, I'm glad I didn't give my code away....can I be part of the clan please? PSN = ThreeLeggedFreak
 
Guled said:
thats because its the default weapon

sniper rifle>shotgun>that
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The shotgun is horrid. It's only useful up close and anyone that has spent a good deal of time with that rifle I posted will cream a shotgun player.
 
SolidSnakex said:
The shotgun is horrid. It's only useful up close and anyone that has spent a good deal of time with that rifle I posted will cream a shotgun player.
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I get a lot more kills with the shotgun then I do with the rifle, I guess its not that way for everyone. But still the sniper rifle owns everything
 
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