KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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JB1981 said:
these guys basically had an hour long presentation dedicated to how advanced the post-processing work is and now it's gone?! Shit, NGAI even wrote a big story about it. WTF, Tempy?
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Shut the fuck up already, only two effects are gone, everything else has seen technical improvements. What you're whining about is a change in art direction for that level in particular.
 
JB1981 said:
these guys basically had an hour long presentation dedicated to how advanced the post-processing work is and now it's gone?! Shit, NGAI even wrote a big story about it. WTF, Tempy?
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Preview build?
 
JB1981 said:
these guys basically had an hour long presentation dedicated to how advanced the post-processing work is and now it's gone?! Shit, NGAI even wrote a big story about it. WTF, Tempy?
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Wayyyyyyyy overacting now.
 
jett said:
Shut the fuck up already, only two effects are gone, everything else has seen technical improvements. What you're whining about is a change in art direction for that level in particular.
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That's your opinion. These guys espoused the benefits of post processing throughout development, dedicated events to it (invited the press etc.) And now they all of a sudden had an artistic change of heart?! Doesn't sound like an art decision to me - sounds like they needed to tighten up performance and the post-processing is what had to go. Based on the development history, that appears to be the only logical conclusion one can draw.
 
AranhaHunter said:
TTP, what did you think of the flamethrower?
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I definitely think it needs tweaking :lol

Looks more like a napalm thrower than a flame thrower. But most will think it just looks like pissing.
 
Y2Kev said:
Why would they downgrade it though? It was running at 30 FPS with AA fine a year ago.
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Eh the embers I don't know about, but the wind-blur might be gone cause they felt there was already too much blur in the game? :P I remember them saying they weren't sure if that idea worked. It did slowdown some in 07 though.
 
JB1981 said:
these guys basically had an hour long presentation dedicated to how advanced the post-processing work is and now it's gone?! Shit, NGAI even wrote a big story about it. WTF, Tempy?
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Ok, now your O D'ing. Chill out dude. Its not a down grade. The game still looks marvelous. They just decided with a different design choice. The level is still technically the same jaw droppingly stunnung.
 
:lol @ some of the comments on Gamersyde

:lol @ some people overreacting here, you are handed the best looking console game ever and all I hear is how much worse it looks?

has the post-processing really been kicked back? I think the game looks better now, hyper-real and a bit more clean than the early vids.

EDIT: I like the dialogue with the Helghast boss in convoy 2, really sound like they are trying to figure out how to beat it, sounds genuine.

EDIT2: The helgan in the heavy armor shouldn't talk though...
 
JB1981 said:
That's your opinion. These guys espoused the benefits of post processing throughout development, dedicated events to it (invited the press etc.) And now they all of a sudden had an artistic change of heart?! Doesn't sound like an art decision to me - sounds like they needed to tighten up performance and the post-processing is what had to go. Based on the development history, that appears to be the only logical conclusion one can draw.
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You really are insane, you don't think there's any post processing going on in there? What the fuck is wrong with you. They just changed the goddamn colors settings on ONE level.
 
shagg_187 said:
IGN preview sucks major balls. Fuck em'. They'll lick other FPS's balls when some of them are the most generic piece of shit (no offense to anyone) but this is turning to be fucking awesome and someone at IGN wants more?
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*Hums 1UP Theme*

Sometimes I wonder where the disconnect comes from.
 
Having just watched all the vids.... this is definitely THE BEST LOOKING GAME I'VE EVER SEEN.

My main complaint tho is that Rico's voice actor is awful. The original one was much better, perfect even. Now he sounds awful, I think it's the same guy as the first game now :(

Also I agree with the E3 07 level comments, although detail/texture wise it's got a big upgrade. It does now look a bit too colourful, I miss the suffocating feel. The lighting looks much better now tho.

Also the intro to that level seems much... calmer than before? The flight down seems to be much quieter and so seems less hectic, there's also a silent pause here and there, seems a little awkward. Wheres the background noise? The decent down and when you reach the level needs to be way more hectic. There's also two helghast who used to jump over the barriers to the right who aren't there anymore, tho they were responsible for EGM's famous A.I. article. But fuck EGM it was cool to blow them up with a grenade! Maybe they appear on harder difficulty?

A.I. looks great tho, and every thing looks spectacular! The animations change depending on the power of the weapon you use. Awesome animation/hit response system! Looks tons of fun.

Oh and yeh the flame thrower looks bad! Needs to look much more powerful, with the napalm being shot out with much more force.

Right, need to go to sleep. Will watch them all on PS3 2moro. :D
 
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Why does everything seem so much worse than the intial reveal. Wtf? That was playable. What happened to the post processing? even the voice acting for that same scene seems much worse than in the original reveal.
 
jett said:
You really are insane, you don't think there's any post processing going on in there? What the fuck is wrong with you. They just changed the goddamn colors settings on ONE level.
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That's not all they did. But whatever. I won't spoil your guys' fun anymore. Like I said, I think the beta is great and I still think the game looks great but I feel a little swindled and that's my gut reaction to this new footage.
 
Ok serious face now.

Everything in this game looks fucking awesome. Guerialla don't listen to that fucktard in IGN, if he wants COD4 space wars, he can get that next year. I am a huge COD fan and I am already fucking tired of this franchise.

my only complaint is the voice acting, jeeez it sound horrible. especially the bald guy, it really sounds fake and like shit. and WTF happened to MrConvoy's face?

my other complain is the flamethrower, it really looks like somebody is pissing from it.
 
gantz85 said:
*Hums 1UP Theme*

Sometimes I wonder where the disconnect comes from.
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David Ellis: It lacked that certain finesse that Call of Duty 4 had. I can't put my finger on it, but after playing the campaign for a grand total of 15 minutes, it was clear to me this game has alot of baggage associated with it.
 
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Downgrade indeed. :shakeshead
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Based on these screens alone, I don't mind the detail downgrade as much as I mind the art direction change for the suits. The new ones look half-life esque.
 
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Downgrade indeed. :shakeshead[/QUOTE]

Yea, who would imagine that they would do something stupid like continue to develop the game. Just because it looked different people are quick to claim it's downgraded. Look at that guys square sharp head from the E3 vid. It looks so much better than it does in these new vids. :shakeshead

And in case some still think I'm serious about that last part (sarcasm).
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Well we've seen the ember effects in some of the newer trailers (and even in the MP beta right?), so they probably were just removed from the opening level in the game.
 
Squash said:
Based on these screens alone, I don't mind the detail downgrade as much as I mind the art direction change for the suits. The new ones look half-life esque.
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what downgrade? Those gamersyde caps are pretty compressed.
 
Clinton514 said:
Let the fetchers fetch. I can get poked in both of my eyes and still tell that there's no downgrade there.
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Not only is there no downgrade in those pictures, there's a fuckton of an upgrade in the models, especially Rico, and the lighting/shading/shadowing.

And I have to say...seriously crap video quality. Sorry TTP. :P
 
I just watched the videos & IGN can eat a dick...
The game looks amazing; and any poor texture talk is bullshit IMO.
I have GOW 2 & the game looks amazing, but the texture variety is garbage everything looks like it's made from the same substance...

The footage shown is the best looking title released on a console too date & anyone saying otherwise is full of shit... I can understand gameplay suggestions, but anything regarding the visuals seems suspect considering the amazing visuals on display.
 
JB1981 said:
That's not all they did. But whatever. I won't spoil your guys' fun anymore. Like I said, I think the beta is great and I still think the game looks great but I feel a little swindled and that's my gut reaction to this new footage.
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I feel swindled of 10 seconds of my life by reading your posts.
 
zeloe326 said:
As much as I want to disagree with you, you kinda have a point. It's like they upped the sharpness are something. Not that it looks bad by any means, but in my opinion it took away from that gritty grungy look it originally had. Whether or not its a downgrade or a design decision would be left up to the consumer to decide.
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After watching the vids again, I decided to quote myself. Thats exactly what the change is. It looks a shit tun sharper than the E3 vid. Some might prefer the more blurrier look because it looks a lot dirtier, but the sharper new look gives the game more "POP" and everything seems to be sticking out more and looks more 3D'ish. Wow, game looks hella amazing.
 
My only two complaints:

Visari Square has lost it's awesome contrast in an attempt to please the haters. :(

Rico's voice is annoying. I suppose I'll get used to it like Old Snake's, though.


Other than that, the vids are absolutely fucking amazing!

And lol @ IGN's criticisms. Weak shotgun? If they beta is anything to go by, NO! Needs moar robo attack dogz? Well, maybe. :P
 
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