KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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Die Squirrel Die said:
We haven't even got KZ2 yet, but I was wondering this, whether we'll see KZ3 this gen or not? Or if we'll see another PSP entry?

I guess it all depends on when Sony are planning the PS4 for, and whether KZ3 becomes like GoW2, and acts as the consoles last hurrah. It took GG a bit over 4 years between KZ1 and KZ2, but alot has happened since then, most prominently a generation jump and becoming a full 1st party.

I believe the bulk of KZ2's production was designing a new engine, and R&D. Now that the learning process is out of the way the next game shouldn't be as long unless they go for a totally different beast of a game. PS3 is supposed to last a long while anyway.
 
I would hope that if KZ2 is a success, we would see a sequel before the release of the ps4. Seems like such a waste of awesome tech if they don't (although clearly it would transfer over if sony goes with the cell for their next console).
 
Igo said:
OMFG!!! Someone has to make a gif of the guy burning and trying to pat himself down at 3:15. Crazy.
Exact shit that went through my mind when I saw it. Some one gif it please.
 
Ploid 3.0 said:
I believe the bulk of KZ2's production was designing a new engine, and R&D. Now that the learning process is out of the way the next game shouldn't be as long unless they go for a totally different beast of a game. PS3 is supposed to last a long while anyway.

Since GG is owned by Sony, the general development direction should be set by Sony. If PS4 is going to launch in the next 2 years, putting hopes GG to design a blockbuster launch game will greatly aid PS4's launch hopes. If not, then GG designing another PS3 game would be cool.

I just think that given the disastrous launch and various decisions made for the PS3 this generation, Sony would be wise to make sure the planets are in line for PS4.
 
gantz85 said:
Since GG is owned by Sony, the general development direction should be set by Sony. If PS4 is going to launch in the next 2 years, putting hopes GG to design a blockbuster launch game will greatly aid PS4's launch hopes. If not, then GG designing another PS3 game would be cool.

I just think that given the disastrous launch and various decisions made for the PS3 this generation, Sony would be wise to make sure the planets are in line for PS4.

I think PS4 should be very cheap, slightly better than PS3 in tech, and built like a rock. 2 years is too short also.
 
gantz85 said:
Since GG is owned by Sony, the general development direction should be set by Sony. If PS4 is going to launch in the next 2 years, putting hopes GG to design a blockbuster launch game will greatly aid PS4's launch hopes. If not, then GG designing another PS3 game would be cool.

I just think that given the disastrous launch and various decisions made for the PS3 this generation, Sony would be wise to make sure the planets are in line for PS4.


Its waaaaaaaaaaay too early to be talking about PS4. This game took forever because of the engine. The next game shouldn't take as long since the engine is already in place as well as the multiplayer. The next game will be more of an evolution than a revolution.
 
Ploid 3.0 said:
I think PS4 should be very cheap, slightly better than PS3 in tech, and built like a rock. 2 years is too short also.

Sony's trump card for PS4 is cell. By the time PS4 launches, there will be two more iterations of Cell. Hopefully by that time developer's will have enough of a handle on Cell to insure success. Cell Version 3.0 + moderate gfx card = trumping anything from anyone.

They invested 4 billion into the goddamn thing, they better refine the fuck out of it to where the next iterations will give it overwhelming validity.
 
thuway said:
Sony's trump card for PS4 is cell. By the time PS4 launches, there will be two more iterations of Cell. Hopefully by that time developer's will have enough of a handle on Cell to insure success. Cell Version 3.0 + moderate gfx card = trumping anything from anyone.

They invested 4 billion into the goddamn thing, they better refine the fuck out of it to where the next iterations will give it overwhelming validity.
4 billion for what ?
 
Is there health regen in the game?, seems like the player can take a lot of hits before going down and enemies die with a few shots.
 
thuway said:
Sony's trump card for PS4 is cell. By the time PS4 launches, there will be two more iterations of Cell. Hopefully by that time developer's will have enough of a handle on Cell to insure success. Cell Version 3.0 + moderate gfx card = trumping anything from anyone.

They invested 4 billion into the goddamn thing, they better refine the fuck out of it to where the next iterations will give it overwhelming validity.


Last time i checked IBM is working on a new cell 2 PPEs and 32 SPUs, but that was almost a year ago now i believe.
 
thuway said:
Sony's trump card for PS4 is cell. By the time PS4 launches, there will be two more iterations of Cell. Hopefully by that time developer's will have enough of a handle on Cell to insure success. Cell Version 3.0 + moderate gfx card = trumping anything from anyone.

They invested 4 billion into the goddamn thing, they better refine the fuck out of it to where the next iterations will give it overwhelming validity.

This. I remember seeing a road map of sorts that showed where the cell was going in the next few years. I think I saw a chip with over 60 SPUs and several PPEs.
 
Well, you guys heard, apart from what they are doing with the cell, what they are doing with blu-ray. 400gig disks from pioneer.
 
nelsonroyale said:
I definitely think that Killzone 2 looks more impressive than gears 2, obviously that doesnt diminish the fact that Gears 2 looks really fantastic

fecking arse at those screens....!!!!

Absolutely. Gears of War 2 is gorgeous. Absolutely stunning in several spots.
But I think it's clear KZ2 is clearly a step or two above.
 
H_Prestige said:
This. I remember seeing a road map of sorts that showed where the cell was going in the next few years. I think I saw a chip with over 60 SPUs and several PPEs.

Imagine the facial expression on gabe newell if sony reveals the ps4 with that CPU :lol
 
roMonster said:
Yea that would be great.

Something like the longer you hold reload the stronger the stream.

or just use pressure sensitivity. the harder you push, the broader the stream.
 
H_Prestige said:
This. I remember seeing a road map of sorts that showed where the cell was going in the next few years. I think I saw a chip with over 60 SPUs and several PPEs.

The great thing about Cell is that it will be affordable to Sony. The Playstation 3 was so godawful expensive because there was this genius idea to use XDR ram, Bluray, and include every bell and whistle imaginable under the hood. (Who other than me on this forum owns an SACD?)

PS4 can be sold at break even in 6 years at 299- with 2 Cell 3.0s, 4 gigs of ram, a decent GFX card, 500gb HD, and bluray. and still pummel the living hell out of anything anyone could put out at that price.
 
Igo said:
OMFG!!! Someone has to make a gif of the guy burning and trying to pat himself down at 3:15. Crazy.

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After watching the G4TV video, I'm starting to believe that most reviewers/previewers think this game is hard because you cant just run out and kill everything.

Seriously...wtf
 
am I the only one who finds the flame thrower to be extremely disturbing? I love FPS, but I don't want to hear the people I kill beg for mercy. The more real it gets, the less fun it becomes.
 
I really want to play this game's single-player. The first had a great atmosphere with the totalitarian opposition, and they seem to do it better here with the propaganda and voice.

Although the MP looks good, I'm only interested in the SP.
 
H_Prestige said:
This. I remember seeing a road map of sorts that showed where the cell was going in the next few years. I think I saw a chip with over 60 SPUs and several PPEs.
Yeah but the military that would best serve or for weather simulations. No ones going to take a dev kit with that monster in it.
 
mr_nothin said:
After watching the G4TV video, I'm starting to believe that most reviewers/previewers think this game is hard because you cant just run out and kill everything.

Seriously...wtf

I've only watched the gamersyde stuff so far, but it did seem like the guy was trying to play mostly as a run and gun, he was rarely going into cover, even when reloading.
 
nerdy1one said:
am I the only one who finds the flame thrower to be extremely disturbing? I love FPS, but I don't want to hear the people I kill beg for mercy. The more real it gets, the less fun it becomes.

This is part of the whole "Games don't unnecessarily have to be about having fun" argument that Nick Suttner often brings up and that I happen to agree with.

Look at cinema. Some people only go to the movies for a "fun". But some of the best films ones are the darker ones. The ones that show you a unique experience. Or give you a little glimpse to some of the darker aspects of humanity. Look at Scarface, The Godfather, or No Country for Old Men.

In fact if video games could teach us anything, it should be that killing is NOT fun. This could be one of the most valuable lessons we learn as gamers.
 
I saw this today

Blind Guy? said:
F.E.A.R. 2 already looks as good if not better then Killzone 2 in the visuals and that is a multi-platform game.

Any truth to this rumor?

After seeing the flamthrower that is the only weapon that could use some work..a litte more beefy sound to the shotty would be nice too.
 
Tom Penny said:
I saw this today



Any truth to this rumor?


Well, at least it tells us that the industry at large is using Killzone 2 as the measuring barometer now.


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Tom Penny said:
I saw this today



Any truth to this rumor?

After seeing the flamthrower that is the only weapon that could use some work..a litte more beefy sound to the shotty would be nice too.

Fear 2 looks like garbage.
 
EnthusiasTech said:
Next gen Cell will has 4PPEs + 32 eSPEs at 3.8ghz etc ... Google " PowerXCell 32iv " ...

PS4 needs Cell 3.0 or bust. The next gen cell will be out soon enough, 2013 holds Cell 3.0 :D .
 
thuway said:
Whoa whoa, holy shit, have you played Fear 2? The game looks fucking amazing.

Indeed. Fear2 looks fucking incredible. I don't think it looks better than KZ2, but maxxed out on a pc it probably would blow just about anyone away.
 
nerdy1one said:
am I the only one who finds the flame thrower to be extremely disturbing? I love FPS, but I don't want to hear the people I kill beg for mercy. The more real it gets, the less fun it becomes.

its just you....

Ill bet you enjoyed running people over in GTA though right?
 
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