Killzone Shadow Fall Review Thread

BakedSardine said:
Penis chart and math!
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Reviews are not calculations its an opinion. For Gies that opinion is valid since we already know he does not like the Killzone franchise in the first place. We can show that his review is different from the Mean but all that does is make you feel better about the review.

A better way to get over the review is to form your own opinion and READ / Listen to the reviews instead of just reading the scores. And you might understand how the game will be for you based on your preferences.

Probably Gies should not be reviewing a Killzone game but it doesnt really matter.
 
BakedSardine said:
Who is calling for censorship? I think there is a valid argument to be made from a consumer research perspective to omitting "outlier" scores from something like Metacritic. The omitted reviews can certainly still be linked on Metacritic - I don't think anyone is sayin they should be scrubbed from the internet.
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Saying it shouldn't be counted on the basis that is strays overly far from the general critical reception is a form of censorship.

Other people are saying Polygon as a site should be banned from NeoGAF,
 
WordsintheWater said:
Are these outlets really not playing multiplayer or is that just for the few reviews I read?
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Considering the MP has a population of about 50 right now because...you know...the console hasn't launched yet, I am going to say no. One guy is live streaming MP right now and his lobby on has 6 people in it. But let's go ahead and give BF and COD a pass for it's single player, which I believe were nothing more than a shooting gallery if I remember correctly. At least in KZ there is a little more player choice given to how one approaches a situation.
 
RoboPlato said:
Derrick01's first day at USGamer: "You'll review every Eidos game and Assassin's Creed game from now on."
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I could do that since I'm really familiar with those types of games and genres, but from what I remember of Parish when 1up was still popular (and before that in magazines too) he was more of a japanese game guy. Giving him a military FPS to review seems silly.
 
Man-is-Obsolete said:
Considering the MP has a population of about 50 right now because...you know...the console hasn't launched yet, I am going to say no. One guy is live streaming MP right now and his lobby on has 6 people in it. But let's go ahead and give BF and COD a pass for it's single player, which I believe were nothing more than a shooting gallery if I remember correctly. At least in KZ there is a little more player choice given to how one approaches a situation.
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I don't understand how you can properly review something that is heavily handicapped on one of its main components. They could have just reviewed singleplayer and then updated scores accordingly. If I am not mistaken Battlefield 4 has a 3 hour terrible campaign, but multiplayer is so good it elevated it to high scores. They should just change the review score after they have played the multiplayer extensively, you can't just play a few games and come to a conclusion about it.
 
Fun Factor said:
Now that a good reviews that correctly points out the flaws of the game & makes logical arguments for them.
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I prefer objective reviews, not ones based on a reviewers game preference. He justifies his opinion well.

a 7 is a good review score. He still is happy with the game and gives it plenty of positives... plenty of polygons etc, looks great, plays great.
 
So I'm to understand that the BF4 single player game is garbage, but that's not really what was reviewed because the reviewers were able to experience a healthy multiplayer mode on one of the many platforms the game came out on.

But Killzone gets reamed by reviews basically only playing the single player game, because it's single platform and there simply wasn't a way to really judge the multiplayer?

So the metacritic review score will be always low because most of the big named outlets reviewed half the game?
 
BigDug13 said:
So I'm to understand that the BF4 single player game is garbage, but that's not really what was reviewed because the reviewers were able to experience a healthy multiplayer mode on one of the many platforms the game came out on.

But Killzone gets reamed by reviews basically only playing the single player game, because it's single platform and there simply wasn't a way to really judge the multiplayer?

So the metacritic review score will be always low because most of the big named outlets reviewed half the game?
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Yeah, this happens a lot more than it should. Apparently most reviewers played about two hours of multiplayer at a review event and that's it. Doesn't really seem fair to review to whole package like that.
 
Why aren't these reviews extensively testing out the multiplayer? The USGamer review seems unnecessarily harsh. I highly doubt KZSF is a 4/10 game.
 
bigmf said:
Video game reviewers are just as full of shit as the rest of us. You shouldn't place much weight on their opinions.
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I honestly don't that's why no reviews have swayed me in any direction, back in the day I used to look at the score and determine what to buy from that, but not anymore. The only reason I am slightly mad about this is because I read a few of them and it's apparent that they didn't review the full game, assigned it a score and called it a day. Knack reviews are valid because they played all of it's components, but this just doesn't seem right.
 
graywolf323 said:
USGamer just put up their review written by Jeremy Parish (formerly of 1UP fame)

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/killzone-shadow-fall-review-setting-a-low-bar-for-ps4-shooters

seems pretty overly harsh to me
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I read that review and ... well, it's not harsh, it's a plain bad review. Really.

Vizzeh said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzXtPRc9ycs

Game got a 7.

But its a very good review, good objectively. Mentions alot of positives and a couple of suggestions how it could have improved, Deffo looking forward to playing this game
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From his review I bet for an higher score, but fortunately (sometime) a review can be good enough that the score mean little to nothing.
 
dragonbane said:
Jesus. I hate Polygon, but this call for censorship is madness. It's a shit score, sometimes it hurts, sometimes it affects things, but ultimately it's better to just move on. Banning a site is not going to improve anything.
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Hilarious when its a game people havent experienced
 
velociraptor said:
Why aren't these reviews extensively testing out the multiplayer? The USGamer review seems unnecessarily harsh. I highly doubt KZSF is a 4/10 game.
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controversial score = more hits

guy says there is no reason for killzone when COD is on the system. get the fuck out of here you dumbass biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch
 
Posting this here because the Polygon live stream thread is dead. Made this at lunch cause I was bored.

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Lyte Edge said:
Why do I keep seeing reviews that mention nothing about the multiplayer? That's a huge part of the game (and the only reason I'm even going to try it).
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kinda funny since the gamespot review downed the sp and praised the mp. imagine a lot of scores would be different if they played it.

i heard bf4's sp was horrible as well. but yeah...
 
Eusis said:
Ok, yeah, now I'm left worried. Well, worse comes to worse the B1G1 and a quick trade-in will make this a wash at worst.
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Don't be. Watch this MP stream. Looks amazing.

http://www.twitch.tv/kewabu

Also, this comment on that review summed things up well.

gold163 said:
Guys, you really should be talking more about the game itself. All you do is complain about the plot while also insisting that it's not good enough to be important. What about multiplayer? Features? Replay value?

Your RPG reviews are nice because they actually discuss things players are interested in. This review tells me next to nothing valuable as a consumer.
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WordsintheWater said:
Are these outlets really not playing multiplayer or is that just for the few reviews I read?
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Kotaku stated on theirs that they only got to play 2 hours of multiplayer via one of Sonys events. That right there invalidated their review for me. At least state in your review that it's only for single player. I can't imagine that any other sites have had much more time with multiplayer.
 
Damn, Parish really hated it.

It's a pretty vague review though when it comes to gameplay. He just lists a bunch of gameplay conventions that pop up in the campaign and derides the game for resorting to cliches. There's very little in the way of specific criticism outside of the narrative description.
 
That Gamespot video review makes the game seem pretty good. It really does seem like most reviewers who gave it a low score based it purely on the single player campaign. Which is ok I guess, but at least make a point of that in your review and then post a follow up after you've actually played the rest of the game.
 
I'm not more interested in the game because of lukewarm reviews (I don't really understand that sentiment), but I am intrigued by many reports of "slow" sections that allow you to take in the environment.

I love that shit, and I'm kind of sick of the COD approach of a blistering setpiece every four seconds.
 
WordsintheWater said:
I don't understand how you can properly review something that is heavily handicapped on one of its main components. They could have just reviewed singleplayer and then updated scores accordingly. If I am not mistaken Battlefield 4 has a 3 hour terrible campaign, but multiplayer is so good it elevated it to high scores. They should just change the review score after they have played the multiplayer extensively, you can't just play a few games and come to a conclusion about it.
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Exactly. But anyways, I am more concerned that people actually let these reviews affect their purchase decision. Why can't people form their own opinion? The media has been put on full blast the last couple of years, and now all of sudden we are supposed to take their reviews seriously?

If before yesterday the game looked good to you and like something you would enjoy, don't return it because Author Gies gave it a 5/10, or because the Metacritic is at a 74. First off, a 74 isn't even a bad game, secondly it achieved a 74 despite people not playing MP. lol
 
nib95 said:
Don't be. Watch this MP stream. Looks amazing.

http://www.twitch.tv/kewabu

Also, this comment on that review summed things up well.
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Actually, my main reason is that my tastes more frequently align with his, it's why I'm more skeptical of Gies's opinion as I'm not too sure of his tastes but got the impression I probably don't see eye-to-eye with him much anyway.

EDIT: I also have to admit I'm not the biggest on MP and was hoping for a more open SP design (though earlier reviews made that seem a first-half-of-the-game deal similar to Mercenary) though I'm definitely going to spend at least some time with MP.
 
BigDug13 said:
So I'm to understand that the BF4 single player game is garbage, but that's not really what was reviewed because the reviewers were able to experience a healthy multiplayer mode on one of the many platforms the game came out on.

But Killzone gets reamed by reviews basically only playing the single player game, because it's single platform and there simply wasn't a way to really judge the multiplayer?

So the metacritic review score will be always low because most of the big named outlets reviewed half the game?
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Well....yes. Having fun yet?
 
IcyEyes said:
I read that review and ... well, it's not harsh, it's a plain bad review. Really.
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I just gave it a closer read and I agree with you

I like Parish but this is a bad review, he complains about lack of moral choices? brings up stuff like Bioshock and hates that you don't have a non-lethal option? wtf Jeremy
 
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