I'd think that generous. Rare had made good games before PDZ.
Killzone Shadow Fall Review Thread
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I'd think that generous. Rare had made good games before PDZ.
PsihoPerihelion
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Don't go to the Knack thread!!
Oh boy, I read your advice too late. I don't even....
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Have to totally disagree here. KZ2 was one of the best shooters this past gen, 3 less so but 5/10 really?
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Just a tip for everyone who really wants to establish Gies/Polygon's bias against the PS4.
Look at their score for Killzone and where it falls in the distribution on metacritic. Then when Dead Rising 3 and Ryse are reviewed, compare Polygon's score (though it won't necessarily be Gies, so the comparison won't be perfect) to the rest of the distribution. If the Killzone score is at the low end and the X1 exclusive scores are at the high end of their review distribution, you can make the argument that Polygon is biased, though it's still not really sufficient data.
edit: I guess throw in the other PS4 exclusives, too, but then you basically have to give up on making an argument about Gies specifically.
Look at their score for Killzone and where it falls in the distribution on metacritic. Then when Dead Rising 3 and Ryse are reviewed, compare Polygon's score (though it won't necessarily be Gies, so the comparison won't be perfect) to the rest of the distribution. If the Killzone score is at the low end and the X1 exclusive scores are at the high end of their review distribution, you can make the argument that Polygon is biased, though it's still not really sufficient data.
edit: I guess throw in the other PS4 exclusives, too, but then you basically have to give up on making an argument about Gies specifically.
Ravensmash
Member
Wasn't the actual story behind this a lot less interesting?
It's not like they don't give low scores to 360 titles or criticise MS.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy
airmangataosenai
Member
Hahaha, you guys totally called the Polygon review. It's Gies who wrote it too which makes the Armond White comparisons even better.
KZ2 averaged 91.
"It's not my fault everything Playstation-related is horrible!"
LOL but yeah I can't wait for Second Son either
truth be told I'm only waiting because I bought the 3DS (though I do not regret one bit) and because some titles I wanted got pushed back.
But still it's a shame for Killzone. Expected more. The reveal was phenomenal. But afterwards it was the boring forest stage over and over again.
They are seriously funded by MS. This is not a joke or hyperbole. Google it.
Mocca-Bear
Neo Member
Look forward to your opinion, I was still psyched at the time for Perfect Dark Zero but it was an amazingly bad experience IMHO. It reviewed pretty mediocre if memory serves right and I was just wondering if we'll look back at Shadowfall the same way.
The buzz was pretty high at that time because Rare hadn't yet turned into the ginger-haired cousin of the industry, as apposed to the incredible visuals Shadowfall has. Hence my comparison.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
He really tweeted that? But hey, at least Ghosts is a 7.0 amazing game!
What a joke.
Acheteedo
Member
I kinda did, the premise was/is so cool.
And EA's DRM/Online only practise. And the creator of the now infamous Xbox One "Secret Sauce" term. It was the thing he was so convinced would make the Xbox One a more powerful console than the PS4 lol.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
you people need to calm down about reviews having agendas lol
StoppedInTracks
Member
People calling for Polygon ban should really rethink what they are doing.
I know I did. The ones I bought anyway.
COD 2, 3, 4, MW2 and Black Ops. Ended up playing a lot of COD4 multi though, but I didn't buy the game for it.
Prince Vultan
Banned
I'm finding the reactions to the Killzone Polygon review are saying a lot more about the people agreeing with it/defending it than the people dismissing it. If for no other reason than the people dismissing it seem to actually be acknowledging the other reviews for the game.
StreetsAhead
Member
"Launch titles might review poorly*, maybe you'll think they're awesome anyway. Don't get too caught up in the numbers."
*Substitute poorly for average(-ly) if you're offended by the word poorly.
BruiserBear
Banned
To those complaining about Polygon's review, it's not like the other reviews are raving about the game. It sounds like it's an uninspired launch game to me.
Really bummed out about it too, as I was holding out hope it was gonna be pretty great.
Really bummed out about it too, as I was holding out hope it was gonna be pretty great.
I'm not that hyped for it actually and I think the 7-7.5 scores are fair. But following Polygon for PS4 coverage is the same thing is following Fox news for Obama coverage, that's a fact.
These are the same clueless morons that say 720p is indistinguishable from 1080p even with a gun to your head.
Hope so. One of the few people who's opinions I actually care for.
Higgins113
Banned
The Mana Legend
Banned
Perfect Dark was the prequel/sequel to one of the most beloved shooters of all time.
Shadow Fall is the next game in a series that not a lot of people care about, where Killzone 2 is considered the only good game (and isn't considered a classic by any means). Shadow Fall will probably end up disappointing, but Perfect Dark Zero might be the most disappointing FPS of all-time. It was coming off from probably the most beloved console shooter of all-time outside of Halo and Goldeneye, and was one of the big major titles from one of the most beloved developers of all-time in Rare.
CambriaRising
Member
The unique mp player counts back this up I believe.
crazygambit
Member
Why is everyone so concerned with the Single Player campaign? You'll spend the vast majority of your time in multi. That's what I want to hear about. If these reviews didn't have access to that portion of the game yet, then they shouldn't be publishing them yet.
lol, no. He is correct. The Killzone franchise is the definition of mediocrity. The average score for the Killzone franchise is 80% (as per Gamerankings). Killzone 4 looks to be another mediocre entry into a mediocre franchise. Killzone 2 is the exception, not the rule.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Being fair, many people here seem to be commenting just to rub people off. Some of the same persons that complain about reviews in review threads.
KZ2 gameplay was pretty good.
Rising_Hei
Member
Becuase if those two games were scored lowit wouldn't hurt PS4, If KZ SF is scored low it hurts PS4 so there's your reason for the game to have such low score.
The Last Of Us's score should dismiss everything they review imo
P.D Resogun best launch title :>
As an Xbox fan, I kind of think Polygon shouldn't give review scores. Or should maybe just skip reviews altogether. Their feature articles are excellent, the site design is brilliant, but there's no escaping the money Microsoft invested in them. No matter if the review scores are legit, they'll never be seen that way.
But everyone should still check out their PS4 review article. Simply beautiful.
But everyone should still check out their PS4 review article. Simply beautiful.
jacksepticeye
Member
Gamespot gave it a 7. Posted?
Im on my phone so linking is a pain
Im on my phone so linking is a pain
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Ehh. People seemed to think Perfect Dark Zero was an all round turd, sans maybe some multiplayer fun, and I don't remember the hype machine being all that great leading up to launch (seemed to be expected it wasn't going to be a gem). Going by the reviews Shadow Fall is still a good game with great production values. Killzone 2 scored incredibly well and that, for me personally, is a turd of a campaign (multiplayer is great though). So I dunno.
I'm not really paying attention to the scores, because scores don't tell you the content of a game and how well the ideas work. I'm moreso making an observation of the perceived open play space and encounter approach diversity, which was what had me hooked on Shadow Fall more than I would normally be for a Killzone game (similar to Mercenaries). For reviewers to cite this specifically as a failing of the game is disappointing, even if the corridor shooting is still good.
People are concerned about the campaign because it's part of the game and partially why some people gravitate towards the series. I won't spend much time with the multiplayer (whenever I get a PS4). Good single player games exist, and I like to play them.
intheinbetween
Member
THIS
btw, guys this is a launch title, I didn't expect more, good game, it will be fun and eye-candy, but I didn't expect a masterpiece
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Killzone's premise was always cool and the plot was always shit.
This is pretty much exactly how I felt about it too!
But that could be any game that you choose to "matter", it's an arbitrary thing. If anyone had actually bothered to read their TLOU review instead of gawping over the score and writing angry posts about it on video game forums, you'd see that it is well reasoned and not "biased" at all.
KefkaPalazzo
Member
Seems like decent reviews overall to me. More of the same as prior entries, but even more visually stunning.
At the very least, it's amusing. Sort of like an adult throwing a childlike tantrum because he/she didn't get what they wanted.
Are you guys serious ? Ban them because you are mad that they gave a game you were hyped for, an average score ?
At the very least, it's amusing. Sort of like an adult throwing a childlike tantrum because he/she didn't get what they wanted.