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[RoboPlato]

The explosions are the same as they've always been. Realistic looking fire swirling and lighting volumetric smoke. It's incredibly impressive.

I don't really know what you mean about the particles disappearing too quickly. Seemed fine to me and the effects themselves also looked identical.

 

[Nizz]

There's no way my old ass PC will be able to play this video so I ask, how does the framerate look in this video? Smooth?

 

[jet1911]

There's no way my old ass PC will be able to play this video so I ask, how does the framerate look in this video? Smooth?

Yep.

 

[SniperHunter]

The explosions are the same as they've always been. Realistic looking fire swirling and lighting volumetric smoke. It's incredibly impressive.

I don't really know what you mean about the particles disappearing too quickly. Seemed fine to me and the effects themselves also looked identical.

The smoke was never volumetric. The particle effects simply dont look that good anymore. Feel free to do a before and after

 

[nib95]

The.nade explosions look weak and the particle effects disappear too quickly. Dialed down for sure

Nope. Depends entirely on the circumstances, materials and explosive device used. C4 has quick less pronounced explosions, grenades etc much larger and more prominent.

Certain explosions in BF4 are also shorter span, just like KZ. Eg.

Longer span explosion in KZ SF.

 

[RoboPlato]

The smoke was never volumetric. The particle effects simply dont look that good anymore. Feel free to do a before and after

I've looked at the highest bitrate versions of all of the footage so far that I have, SP and MP, and, I honestly can't tell a difference. Unfortunately some of the old vids are lower quality so my comparison shots aren't coming out well. The newer vids look like an upgrade, if anything, because of the quality.

 

[Nizz]

Yep.

Nice!

 

[SniperHunter]

Longer span explosion in KZ SF.

This gif is from.the old video. The explosions dont look this good anymore

 

[viveks86]

Longer span explosion in KZ SF.

Dat explosion! Still can't get over it. Wow!

 

[Valnen]

Yep.

I don't understand what any of that means. Just kill aliasing before you work on anything else.

 

[Atlas157]

This gif is from.the old video. The explosions dont look this good anymore

Yeah, even though they had it working at 1080p/60fps in that gif, they dumbed it down for no reason.

Great logic.

 

[SniperHunter]

Yeah, even though they had it working at 1080p/60fps in that gif, they dumbed it down for no reason.

Great logic.

Yes they dumbed down the effects for 60 fps.

 

[nib95]

This gif is from.the old video. The explosions dont look this good anymore

Sniper, why are you misinformed so often? Lol.

Here's a GIF from the footage from the new vid in the OP.

 

[VanWinkle]

Yes they dumbed down the effects for 60 fps.

Woah, looky here! An expert!

 

[viveks86]

Yes they dumbed down the effects for 60 fps.

Dude, why not show a clip that indicates the downgrade so that we can have a meaningful debate?

 

[nib95]

Dude, why not show a clip that indicates the downgrade so that we can have a meaningful debate?

Because he's talking absolute rubbish. Wish people would actually do their research and pay attention before spouting rubbish.

Like I said above, the type of explosion and it's life span depends entirely on the type of explosive that caused it etc, same as in BF4 as well. Some have shorter spans than others, but nothing has been downgraded.

 

[SniperHunter]

Dude, why not show a clip that indicates the downgrade so that we can have a meaningful debate?

I dont have a computer atm

 

[camac002]

This is to do with SP but invisible man got a new coat of paint in the latest playstation trailer:

PS meeting:

The snippet in the playstation trailer is of slightly lower quality than the february upload for anyone that is worried about seeing less detail

 

[TheExecutive]

Yes they dumbed down the effects for 60 fps.

and it still looks better than any other launch game. Amazing.

 

[nib95]

This is to do with SP but invisible man got a new coat of paint in the latest playstation trailer:

PS meeting:

The snippet in the playstation trailer is of slightly lower quality than the february upload for anyone that is worried about seeing less detail

Much prefer the new look. Looks more realistic and you can appreciate the character modelling details better too.

 

[Jigolo]

the explosions look exactly the same as that old MP footage. There was no down grade


sniperhunter likes to talk out of his ass.

 

[WeAreStarStuff]

Dude, why not show a clip that indicates the downgrade so that we can have a meaningful debate?

It's like you've never seen Sniper post before.

 

[SniperHunter]

This is to do with SP but invisible man got a new coat of paint in the latest playstation trailer:

PS meeting:

The snippet in the playstation trailer is of slightly lower quality than the february upload for anyone that is worried about seeing less detail

Very nice

 

[Valnen]

I dont have a computer atm

So how are you seeing these supposedly dumbed down effects then?

 

[Dictator93]

When watching the 500mb footage do other people notice the strange dithering going on in the vegetation, shadows, and SSAO?

 

[beast786]

I love him , but the funniest part is he is most confident consistently wrong person I know.

But, I still love him <3

 

[viveks86]

It's like you've never seen Sniper post before.

LOL. Was just appealing to the reasonable person hidden somewhere behind those glowing eyes.

I love him , but the funniest part is he is most confident consistently wrong person I know.

But, I still love him <3

Me too!

 

[nib95]

The explosion from the new footage in screenshots.

 

[famousmortimer]

FOV bugged the crap out of me. Everything else was amazing.

 

[RoadHazard]

This is to do with SP but invisible man got a new coat of paint in the latest playstation trailer:

PS meeting:

The snippet in the playstation trailer is of slightly lower quality than the february upload for anyone that is worried about seeing less detail

They made him look even more like a cat. Just look at those eyes! Or is that a reflection of something?

 

[Zen]

There absolutely is less detail in the new version. Texture res has been parred back. The complete lack of stitching on his 'belt' wrap portion of the outfit around the arm is one such example.

 

[Binabik15]

Much prefer the new look. Looks more realistic and you can appreciate the character modelling details better too.

Much prefer the old look, the off-white+orange is a great look. Looks like they got a downgrade in fashion sense.

 

[abolisher6812]

That video sucked. Not that it was bad or anything, it just made my choice between KZ and BF4 that much harder.

 

[viveks86]

The improved assassin, equipped with a deadly new zipper, in GIF form.

 

[RoadHazard]

There absolutely is less detail in the new version. Texture res has been parred back. The complete lack of stitching on his 'belt' wrap portion of the outfit around the arm is one such example.

Or they changed the design of it for other reasons. Almost everything on this character looks redesigned, it's not just a quality reduction. And it's difficult to really compare texture detail between these two images because of how much less sharp the newer image is overall (which is due to the video compression, obviously).

 

[Spongebob]

This is to do with SP but invisible man got a new coat of paint in the latest playstation trailer:

PS meeting:

The snippet in the playstation trailer is of slightly lower quality than the february upload for anyone that is worried about seeing less detail

Can't wait to see what the February demo area looks like now.

 

[MDSLKTR]

So how are you seeing these supposedly dumbed down effects then?

It's all about dem concern posts quotas

 

[TacticalFox88]

Guys.

GUYS!

Remember how Resistance: FOM looked back in 06?

Compare it now to KZ3, GOW: A, TLOU, UC3.

Now remember....

Shadow Fall is a launch game

 

[Spongebob]

There absolutely is less detail in the new version. Texture res has been parred back. The complete lack of stitching on his 'belt' wrap portion of the outfit around the arm is one such example.

Downgrades, downgrades everywhere!

 

[Dictator93]

Guys.

GUYS!

Remember how Resistance: FOM looked back in 06?

Compare it now to KZ3, GOW: A, TLOU, UC3.

Now remember....

Shadow Fall is a launch game

Slightly different this time due to the lack of the CELL and the better and easier programmability of the PS4.. but later gen PS4 games should hopefully be emphasizing its compute abilities.

 

[nib95]

There absolutely is less detail in the new version. Texture res has been parred back. The complete lack of stitching on his 'belt' wrap portion of the outfit around the arm is one such example.

Lol. I guess you missed all the additional details? The zip on his collar, the new buckle clips and straps, metal inserts on his face mask, black gaffa tape wrapped around the tubing, specular highlights on the orbs, metal clips on straps, new folds on the face mask etc?

 

[Pop]

FOV reminds me of Halo. Works for me

 

[RoadHazard]

Guys.

GUYS!

Remember how Resistance: FOM looked back in 06?

Compare it now to KZ3, GOW: A, TLOU, UC3.

Now remember....

Shadow Fall is a launch game

Not a completely fair comparison, because:

a) Guerilla are clearly much more technically competent than Insomniac. Insomniac are fine, Guerilla are wizards.

b) The PS4 is significantly easier to develop for and get good results on than the PS3. Seeing launch titles reach higher relative quality isn't very surprising.

But yes, of course we will see significantly better looking games in the future. We already know there are loads of optimizations Guerilla simply didn't have time to do with this game, so I'm sure their next PS4 game will be another step up. I'm just not sure the difference, when all is said and done, will be as great as it was going from Resistance to the best looking PS3 games.

 

[Ark]

That video sucked. Not that it was bad or anything, it just made my choice between KZ and BF4 that much harder.

Just get both, that's what I'm doing

 

[GribbleGrunger]

It's just incredible that there are still people on sites saying that BF4 looks better than KZS.

 

[SniperHunter]

Slightly different this time due to the lack of the CELL and the better and easier programmability of the PS4.. but later gen PS4 games should hopefully be emphasizing its compute abilities.

Resistance made great use of cell. Lots of shit on screen, good particle effects.

 

[Spongebob]

It's just incredible that there are still people on sites saying that BF4 looks better than KZS.

Edit: Wrong.

 

[WordsintheWater]

The explosions looks the same, I don't see a difference.

 

[Eppy Thatcher]

My hype for ShadowFall is indirectly double hyping GGs new IP for me...


I just imagining what this engine would like like with a fantasy brawler melee heavy death fest asthetic tied to it ... drooooool...

GG is gonna be fixin shit this gen... i can feel it.

 

[Windom Earle]

Really not a fan of the FOV either. I am usually playing with something around 90 these days, really hard to go back :/.